Logos/Vyrso for Android 0.9.4 Beta 1

We have released Beta 1 of 0.9.4 today. This will be a non-market release.

If you wish to participate in the beta, visit the appropriate link from your phone to download it:

There is no auto-updating, so check back soon to see if we have released an update! When 0.9.4 officially releases, it will be put into the market as usual.

Important installation/update instructions for Kindle Fire users: To install the beta (or any non-market release) on the Kindle Fire, you must uninstall the Amazon Market version first. Similarly, when you no longer want the beta, you must uninstall the beta version *before* installing or clicking "update" from the Amazon Market. Future installations/updates may fail if you try to use the Amazon's market updater while you have a non-market version of an app installed.

New

Split-screen reading view (tap or drag indicator in corner to create a second panel)
Tap in each panel of a
split-screen view to navigate or change resources
Split-screen panel linking (View Settings -> Link Panels)
Reading view image viewer (double-tap on image to open) – supports panning and pinch-to-zoom

Improved

Error messages when verse navigation fails
Signals tab display when active
Working indicator display when opening resource
Resource download progress indicator

Fixed

Crash when library is updating
Multiple “application not responding” messages
Various bug fixes and improvements

Limitations/Known Issues in 0.9.4 Beta 1

App can crash when quickly resizing the reading view panels
Image viewer is not yet complete – links are not yet clickable, UI is not final, etc

Limitations/Known Issues in 0.9.x

Search is online-only (for now)
Calendar signal events do not properly populate all the calendar fields on some devices (particularly 3.0+)
Cannot select signals with the trackball
Signals are not fully themed in low-light mode
Some Logos4Reference signals are not fully supported
Popups and menus do not display Greek and Hebrew correctly
Right-to-left text (especially Hebrew) does not display correctly
Poor network connection may show an error message
Network connections from behind a login page are not supported (e.g. a hotel or other hotspot that requires login)
The app will crash if there is no SD card
Some apocryphal books cannot be navigated to through the verse picker

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Comments

Graham Criddle

Hi David - thanks for this.

Tap on a panel to navigate or change resources

Can you expand on this - it seems to work as it used to?

Or does it mean that you can tap in each panel of a split screen to navigate or change resources?

Thanks, Graham

Graham Criddle

Hi David

Reading view image viewer (double-tap on image to open) – supports panning and pinch-to-zoom

This is nice - particularly on a phone-factor device

Many thanks, Graham

Lynden O. Williams

Thanks fro the split screen and syncing between Bible and commentry David. Now just waiting on sync two, and the ability to read PBB on my tablet. Good job. Appreciated very much.

David Schwegler (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/324955#Comment_324955

Hi David - thanks for this.

Tap on a panel to navigate or change resources

Can you expand on this - it seems to work as it used to?

Or does it mean that you can tap in each panel of a split screen to navigate or change resources?

Thanks, Graham

Yes, it means you can tap in each panel of a split screen. I'll clarify that in the announcement.

Thanks for the support!

Dave Hooton

Split-screen reading view (tap or drag indicator in corner to create a second panel)
Tap in each panel of a
split-screen view to navigate or change resources
Split-screen panel linking (View Settings -> Link Panels)

Thanks for split screen and linking - works well in Vyrso on my Samsung Galaxy S, especially in landscape.

Elizabeth McMutrie

The beta will not install on the Kindle Fire.

Jim Crouch

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325482#Comment_325482

It installed fine on mine. Used the link at the beginning of this thread. Once downloaded it updated to the new version. The "marker" in the bottom right corner which allows you to adjust the pane size was difficult to see and more difficult to "grab." Once I did, it works great. Make sure you have "allow installation of applications from unknown sources" in Settings --> Device set to On.

Robert Mullen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325606#Comment_325606

I can second that the handle is difficult to grab. It works well once open though.

One complaint I have had with iOS too is that if you close your second split panel for a bit (think days) and then reopen it, it doesn't remember the last open resource but loads the Summarized Bible by default. When this happens to me I am usually reading a Bible verse in the first panel and opening the Summarized Bible changes navigation in the Bible too. This gets pretty frustrating after it happens a few times. Really two things need to happen here; one, you need to remember the last open resource in the second panel even if it is closed for weeks. When reopening load that last resource. If the panels are set to link the reference point in the FIRST open panel should cause the newly opened SECOND panel to navigate and match. I can't imagine a scenario where someone would have a closed resource in that second panel and expect their open resource to jump to a new location to match the previously hidden panel. That is frustrating behavior to me.

Also, you might want to toggle the installing of apps back off when you are done loading Logos. There are some apps out there that don't play nice.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325614#Comment_325614

I can second that the handle is difficult to grab.

Just to clarify, as with Jim you have a Kindle Fire?

Clint Cozier

Beta 1 would not install on my Kindle Fire.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325723#Comment_325723

Beta 1 would not install on my Kindle Fire.

You have to type the beta URL exactly as listed as it is case sensitive.

Clint Cozier

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325765#Comment_325765

It downloaded easy enough, but could not install. I'm running stock software....no root on my fire. I'll try sideloading and see if that makes a difference. Beta looks good on my Motorola Triumph [:)].

TCBlack

Downloaded and installed on my shiny white Galaxy S II Skyrocket (Had to give it permission to load non-market software).

Robert Mullen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325708#Comment_325708

I can second that the handle is difficult to grab.

Just to clarify, as with Jim you have a Kindle Fire?

Yes. I usually use an iPad but have been working with a Kindle Fire recently.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325784#Comment_325784

Downloaded and installed on my shiny white Galaxy S II Skyrocket

Are you pleased with it?

Clint Cozier

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325771#Comment_325771

Side loading on the Fire didn't work. Does anyone have the new beta working on a stock Fire?

Thanks.

Robert Mullen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325916#Comment_325916

Side loading on the Fire didn't work. Does anyone have the new beta working on a stock Fire?

Thanks.

Yes, I went into settings (gear icon in menu bar) -> More -> Device -> Allow Installation of Applications and set it to on. I then navigated to the forums and followed the link to download the APK for the newest beta. It installed right away. I also have Easy Installer on the Fire but I don't think it is necessary.

Clint Cozier

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325944#Comment_325944

Well....that's interesting. I have the Allow Installation of [Third Party] Applications toggled to on and have not rooted my fire. Mine errors every time (goes through the application installation with a final message that the application was not installed) whether downloading from the forum link or side loading from a working installation on my Motorola Triumph. Very Interesting indeed

TCBlack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325871#Comment_325871

Downloaded and installed on my shiny white Galaxy S II Skyrocket

Are you pleased with it?

Today will be my first chance to play with it. I probably should take some notes on some first impressions.

BUT FOR THE RECORD: Logos was the very first app I installed. [:)]

Elizabeth McMutrie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325944#Comment_325944

For Dr. Cozier: I had the same issues as you and went through the same steps as you. Like you, my fire is not rooted. I was finally able to get it to install by uninstalling the logos version downloaded from Amazon Market. The beta then installed without issue. However, the fire is telling me now I need to update my Logos at the Amazon Market. Oh well, it seems there is always a price for using Logos software in the beginning. I have logos on my iphone from the beginning of it's release and am still waiting for sync to be finished but that is another topic.

George

Thank you for the split screen! [Y]
Installation went well on my Acer Iconia A500. Is there any way to make "Jump to a reference" open on the "other" screen?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326117#Comment_326117

The beta then installed without issue. However, the fire is telling me now I need to update my Logos at the Amazon Market. Oh well, it seems there is always a price for using Logos software in the beginning.

From what I've observed the problem comes from a modified Android OS on devices that don't allow you to use Android Market. I have no issues installing the beta on my Samsung Galaxy phone.

David Schwegler (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326117#Comment_326117

...I was finally able to get it to install by uninstalling the logos version downloaded from Amazon Market. The beta then installed without issue. However, the fire is telling me now I need to update my Logos at the Amazon Market...

Yes, thank you, I will add this to the release notes.

To install the beta on the Kindle Fire, you must uninstall the Amazon Market version first.

Similarly, when you no longer want the beta, you must uninstall the beta version *before* installing or clicking "update" from the Amazon Market. My understanding is that there are problems that can occur if you try to use the market's updater while you have a non-market version of an app installed.

David Schwegler (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326188#Comment_326188

Thank you for the split screen!
Installation went well on my Acer Iconia A500. Is there any way to make "Jump to a reference" open on the "other" screen?

If you have the resource open in the "other" screen (and you're not already in the resource), then it will use the other screen. So, for example, if you have a commentary in one screen and your preferred bible in the other, then any reference jumps from your commentary will navigate your preferred bible in the other screen.

Is that sufficient for your needs?

David Schwegler (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325614#Comment_325614

...One complaint I have had with iOS too is that if you close your second split panel for a bit (think days) and then reopen it, it doesn't remember the last open resource but loads the Summarized Bible by default...

That's quite strange -- it is indeed supposed to remember the resource/location you had open in any pane you close -- I just tested it on my device here and it behaves as expected. Can you try the following?

Open ESV in the top panel. Wait for it to finish loading.
Open the ASV in the bottom panel. Wait for it to finish loading.
Close the bottom panel.
Force stop the app (Go to your system's settings -> Manage Applications -> Logos (or Vyrso if you're using that) -> Force Stop).
Open the app to the reading view. Wait for it to finish loading.
Open the bottom panel. Wait for it to finish loading. Does the ASV appear?

...If the panels are set to link the reference point in the FIRST open panel should cause the newly opened SECOND panel to navigate and match.

What you're describing would be a bug. I'll look into it.

Robert Mullen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326289#Comment_326289

That's quite strange -- it is indeed supposed to remember the resource/location you had open in any pane you close -- I just tested it on my device here and it behaves as expected. Can you try the following?

Open ESV in the top panel. Wait for it to finish loading.

Open the ASV in the bottom panel. Wait for it to finish loading.

Close the bottom panel.

Force stop the app (Go to your system's settings -> Manage Applications -> Logos (or Vyrso if you're using that) -> Force Stop).

Open the app to the reading view. Wait for it to finish loading.

Open the bottom panel. Wait for it to finish loading. Does the ASV appear?

...If the panels are set to link the reference point in the FIRST open panel should cause the newly opened SECOND panel to navigate and match.

What you're describing would be a bug. I'll look into it.

Following these directions does reopen the ASV as would be expected. There may be something else that factors into the behavior I described. I will try and pay attention next Sunday and see what happens. The times I have seen this is when I have had the second panel (with SBLGNT usually) closed for a week or two and then go to open it with the ESV open in the primary pane. On each occasion the Summarized Bible opened instead of the SBLGNT then the ESV navigates to the reference point of the Summarized Bible. This behavior has been seen repeatedly on the iPad and once on the Kindle Fire. Can I ask what resource gets loaded in the second panel if no history is found? (I.E. the first time a user opens the panel on a new install)

David Schwegler (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/325606#Comment_325606

...The "marker" in the bottom right corner which allows you to adjust the pane size was difficult to see and more difficult to "grab." ...

We will address this, thank you.

David Schwegler (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326347#Comment_326347

... The times I have seen this is when I have had the second panel (with SBLGNT usually) closed for a week or two and then go to open it with the ESV open in the primary pane. On each occasion the Summarized Bible opened instead of the SBLGNT then the ESV navigates to the reference point of the Summarized Bible. This behavior has been seen repeatedly on the iPad and once on the Kindle Fire. Can I ask what resource gets loaded in the second panel if no history is found? (I.E. the first time a user opens the panel on a new install)

The very first time you open the second pane in Logos for Android, it will either be your preferred bible (if you have a non-bible open in the first panel) or the Summarized Bible of the New Testament (if you have a bible open in the first panel).

I can't speak to how iOS works, but on Android, that setting is only supposed to be cleared if you uninstall the app or clear the app's data. Let me know if it occurs without you doing either of those things. Thanks!

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326284#Comment_326284

If you have the resource open in the "other" screen (and you're not already in the resource), then it will use the other screen. So, for example, if you have a commentary in one screen and your preferred bible in the other, then any reference jumps from your commentary will navigate your preferred bible in the other screen.

The problem then is that the commentary also "jumps" to that reference when the panels are linked. This could be improved if the software overrides the link in that situation else I have to make a change in Settings and then remember to reverse it.

George

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326284#Comment_326284

Thank you for the split screen!
Installation went well on my Acer Iconia A500. Is there any way to make "Jump to a reference" open on the "other" screen?

If you have the resource open in the "other" screen (and you're not already in the resource), then it will use the other screen. So, for example, if you have a commentary in one screen and your preferred bible in the other, then any reference jumps from your commentary will navigate your preferred bible in the other screen.

Is that sufficient for your needs?

Yes, for now it is good enough. With the split screen option Logos on Android is getting closer to being a very good tool. Offline searching and highlighting will make it much, much better.

Thank you for your help, David!

Grace and peace!

Ralph Mauch

We have released Beta 1 of 0.9.4 today. This will be a non-market release.

Any idea on when the release to Market will occur, I'm trying to avoid problems with the beta, at the moment I'm satisfied with my Fire, but would love to see highlighting and notes added... any chance that will happen soon? Using the Kindle Fire "back page" and also the "history" under more in the app is allowing me to switch back and forth in Bibles and and resources, so don't take too long or I'll get tempted to install the beta.

Thanks for all the effort you put into this!

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326699#Comment_326699

but would love to see highlighting and notes added... any chance that will happen soon?

Not soon and definitely after it appears for iOS (which could be soon[:)])

Ralph Mauch

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326787#Comment_326787

Not soon and definitely after it appears for iOS (which could be soon)

[:(] Was hoping that all the success the Fire was having, they'd be all over this... more sales for Vyrso E-books, though the L4 books work better on the Fire then either the Kindle or Vyrso E-books. Oh well, I'm just happy I have a cheap way of reading my resources away from my PC.

Robert Mullen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326363#Comment_326363

The very first time you open the second pane in Logos for Android, it will either be your preferred bible (if you have a non-bible open in the first panel) or the Summarized Bible of the New Testament (if you have a bible open in the first panel).

I can't speak to how iOS works, but on Android, that setting is only supposed to be cleared if you uninstall the app or clear the app's data. Let me know if it occurs without you doing either of those things. Thanks!

Will do. I am thinking the time I saw this happen on the Kindle Fire I had uninstalled the Logos app that I downloaded from the Amazon app store and loaded the most recent beta instead. That would make loading the Summarized Bible the correct behavior based on your explanation. I will watch for any other behavior and report back.

Robert Mullen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326787#Comment_326787

Not soon and definitely after it appears for iOS (which could be soon)

Not that I doubt you but do you have a source for that info? It has been explained on the iOS side that notes and highlights are done, submitted, and waiting for release of desktop 4.5. Since desktop 4.5 is in RC now that is probably just around the corner. Is Android development a couple steps behind? Just curious too: Devs, are you using MonoDroid and MonoTouch?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/327073#Comment_327073

Not that I doubt you but do you have a source for that info?

https://twitter.com/#!/ddunkin/status/155784660629209088

Robert Mullen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/327098#Comment_327098

Not that I doubt you but do you have a source for that info?

https://twitter.com/#!/ddunkin/status/155784660629209088

Thank you, I am not a twitter(er) so I missed that. it is too bad as I have kind of taken a liking to my Kindle Fire at the moment but might have to break the iPad out when notes are released. I really feel for Logos having to try and keep all this up to speed together. Mac, Windows, Web, iOS, Android, oh my.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/327116#Comment_327116

Thank you, I am not a twitter(er) so I missed that.

I don't twitter either, but I got it via the person who asked the question.

Cynthia Ventura

Thank you for the split screen and linking. This app just keeps getting better and better; can't wait to see what's coming next! Works great on my DroidX.

Harry Hahne

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/327133#Comment_327133

I love the split screen. However, it reinforces the need for more granularity in font size. When I am reading a single book, I use "Large". But this font size is too big for split screen. Unfortunately, "Normal" is a bit small on a 7 inch tablet.

George

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/327491#Comment_327491

I love the split screen. However, it reinforces the need for more granularity in font size. When I am reading a single book, I use "Large". But this font size is too big for split screen. Unfortunately, "Normal" is a bit small on a 7 inch tablet.

[Y]

Benjamin Tsao

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/327497#Comment_327497

[Y]