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Hi Randy
In what way do you want them to sync. Those books that are available for the iOS can be used either on line or off line if downloaded.
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Mike
How to get logs and post them.(now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS
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Any word on when books might get the ability to sync with your desktop.
Are you referring to Personal Books (PBs)? If so, I personally haven't heard about when they will be synced with iOS devices, although others may be able to shed some light on this.
This is definitely a feature I would look forward to in future updates.
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Are you referring to Personal Books (PBs)? If so, I personally haven't heard about when they will be synced with iOS devices,
The primary issue with personal books is that an exponentially larger amount of data would need to be kept by Logos. Currently, the metadata (a small amount of data) syncs between your desktop computers for PBB's, but the actual books themselves (a large amount of data) do not. Bob has said that he plans to allow users to sync this data at some point, but there is no telling when that might be. It could be months or years.
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Sorry for not being clear Mike. I want to be able to read from a resource I have in my Logos library- for example Spurgeon's Autobiography- on my desktop, save it on page xx, open Spurgeon's Autobiography on my iPad and find it on the same page I saved on my desktop.
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I want to be able to read from a resource I have in my Logos library- for example Spurgeon's Autobiography- on my desktop, save it on page xx, open Spurgeon's Autobiography on my iPad and find it on the same page I saved on my desktop.
It does this to some extent now… kind of. For example… Open a book you have been reading on your mobile device/desktop on biblia.com. You should find that it has turned to the page you were viewing on your mobile device / desktop. I have found this to work as well with the desktop & mobile apps unless the resource was already open in both places. For example, I was reading a new book today on my iPhone. I just opened it on biblia.com & my desktop. Both opened to the chapter I was about to begin. On the other hand, my iPad opened to the ESV. The book & chapter was NOT what I had left off on using my iPhone app. I assume that this is because the local setting took precedence. I guess it could be a sync error instead, but that is what my experience has been.
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I'm having the same problem as Randy. I often read between three devices, Mac, iPad and iPhone. The SYNC seems to be random. Mac does not update when I read further ahead on iPhone or iPad. Is there a solution to manually a sync so the devices stay together?
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The SYNC seems to be random. Mac does not update when I read further ahead on iPhone or iPad. Is there a solution to manually a sync so the devices stay together?
The sync is likely working, but the behavior is a little different than you are expecting. Here are some pointers:
- Any saved layout on your desktop saves the actual location of the resources. The sync feature is bypassed when you have a resource left "open" in a layout since Logos assumes that you want to pick up where you left off when you saved the layout last (rather than where you left of on another device). In other words, the resource "stays in place."
- To avoid issues like above, you must not open a layout with the resource still active. Create a new one if you need to. When you open the resource "cold" in this manner, you should find that it syncs to your last used location.
- Although the mobile app doesn't have "layouts" in the same way that the desktop app, there is a corresponding behavior. If a resource is left open on the mobile app, Logos assumes you want to pick up where you left off when you closed the mobile app last.
- To avoid this issue, make sure the book you are reading isn't in either pane when you close the app. NOTE: the mobile app has two reading panes. One may be hidden if you have the other resource at full screen.
There is certainly room for improvement with location sync, although the current behavior is useful and expected under many circumstances.
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Thanks much for the reply. Just a couple of questions please,
1. I must reopen the book each time on each device? I read on Mac, when finished, close the book. Go to iPhone, reopen the book and it will pick up where Mac closed it?
2. Finish on iPhone, close book. Go to iPad, must open book cold?
At bit clunky, but it that will work, I guess I can reopen each time on each device.
Again - thanks for the reply and help!
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From what you have written, it sounds like you understand. The act of closing the book is irrelevant for syncing to the other device… it is fully relevant, however, for when you return to the device. Does that make sense? In other words, you can leave the book open on mobile, close the app, open the book cold on your desktop and it should sync. When you return to your mobile device, however, the book will open where it left off on the device and not on your computer… which is why you would want to close the resource as part of your workflow (if that is important to you).
At bit clunky, but it that will work
When a user is reading through a book "cover to cover," this process is indeed "clunky." [To be honest, most of my reading is this way too]. When you are "studying" with a book, however, the "open every time to the last known location" is undesirable. Imagine that you are working on three sermons at once. [Two for this week, one for next]. The power in layouts is that you can have resources (commentaries, bible dictionaries, theology books etc.) open to one location for the first study in one layout, another location for the second and third (and so on), each in their own layouts. It would stink to have to continually remember "where was I?" As inconvenient as it is when you are reading through a book "cover to cover," it would be much more difficult to remember where you were when you are reading a book "here and there" in a study.
I think the best solution for Logos may be to leave the current behavior for the Logos Bible! app, but to change it for the Vyrso one.
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Got it! I understand how it works now - thanks so much. I agree with your synopsis! When reading a specific book cover to cover - it's not too hard to reopen it on each device as the title is current. But using the layouts for detailed study and sermons certainly makes sense. Thanks Much for the help.
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I have the same problem. What makes this more of a kludge for me is that I can't see an easy way to open the last book I was reading and closed so that it could sync. By "easy" it would be nice to have a list of the last N books that I was reading without having to scroll through my entire library. (I HATE SEARCH! Why is it everyone things that search is the answer?) Anyway, I thought maybe the prioritized books would do it. Then I thought Favorites but that works like bookmarks and doesn't open the book to where I was on my mobile device. I just want to be able to seamlessly/quickly jump from desktop to device and back. I have Logos, The BibleStudy App and Accordance. Whoever gets this kind of stuff right soonest will get my business. Unless of course they have Tabletalk as Logos has which is the only reason I still use it.
Sorry for venting but I find these interface issues extremely frustrating!
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I can't see an easy way to open the last book I was reading and closed so that it could sync. By "easy" it would be nice to have a list of the last N books that I was reading without having to scroll through my entire library.
I think the "history" feature is what you are looking for. Just to the right of the sidebar menu button is a left pointing triangle icon. Press and hold and a drop down menu will appear. [;)]
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Alabama,
Sorry for jumping in the middle of this thread. Just wanted to ask someone who seems to know a lot about this stuff.
How do you and others make your fancy signature here in the forums?
Is there a way to copy / paste the version info from Logos? I see the version info on the about page but on the MBP it won't let me copy from that part of the page.
Last question.... What is the best video on how to use Faithlife? It must be from the younger generation because I am having difficulty understanding both the app and the Facebook like interface.
Thanks,
Johnny
Johnny
MacBook Pro | iMac | OS X Mountain Lion | iPad | iPhone 4s |Logos Bible Software 5.0a SR-4 (5.0.1.0291) Gold |
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Hi Johnny
How do you and others make your fancy signature here in the forums?
Click on the "Edit" button at the top-right of the forum page, click the "Site Options" button and you will be presented with a range of customisation options including the ability to change your signature.
Is there a way to copy / paste the version info from Logos? I see the version info on the about page but on the MBP it won't let me copy from that part of the page.
I just tried it on Windows and Logos 5 and it works fine. What version of Logos are you running?
Last question.... What is the best video on how to use Faithlife? It must be from the younger generation because I am having difficulty understanding both the app and the Facebook like interface.
Does the material at https://faithlife.com/help and https://faithlifebible.com/app help at all?
Graham
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The SYNC seems to be random. Mac does not update when I read further ahead on iPhone or iPad. Is there a solution to manually a sync so the devices stay together?
The sync is likely working, but the behavior is a little different than you are expecting. Here are some pointers:
- Any saved layout on your desktop saves the actual location of the resources. The sync feature is bypassed when you have a resource left "open" in a layout since Logos assumes that you want to pick up where you left off when you saved the layout last (rather than where you left of on another device). In other words, the resource "stays in place."
- To avoid issues like above, you must not open a layout with the resource still active. Create a new one if you need to. When you open the resource "cold" in this manner, you should find that it syncs to your last used location.
- Although the mobile app doesn't have "layouts" in the same way that the desktop app, there is a corresponding behavior. If a resource is left open on the mobile app, Logos assumes you want to pick up where you left off when you closed the mobile app last.
- To avoid this issue, make sure the book you are reading isn't in either pane when you close the app. NOTE: the mobile app has two reading panes. One may be hidden if you have the other resource at full screen.
There is certainly room for improvement with location sync, although the current behavior is useful and expected under many circumstances.
I think if you polled a majority of app users, they would say we prefer to have it assume that I want it to open where it was last left in any device no matter whether I left it open or not. I sometimes forget to close books and want it to open on my various devices to the latest spot left no matter which device I used. Here's my dilemma.
I open a book on iPhone. Then just put down the phone. Two hours later I open iPad and want to pick up where I left off on the iPHone. But the above sync behavior will not allow for this. So I must search for the spot. A bookmark feature would help, but again I must remember to add it.
Then I open the book on my Mac wanting to prepare a Bible study with content from the book. Same problem sometimes.
In fact I didn't know the above was the default. I assume it is fact since Alabama24 my favorite app guru said it is so. [:D]
It just seems opposite of what I'd expect it to do by default.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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I agree with the current default behavior, it makes sense that when you pick up a device it remains at the location where you left that particular device-that's how a book works. It would be unexpected if it flipped ahead without my command. However, I do believe we definitely need a Sync to Furthest Page Read command like the Kindle has:
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Hi Graham,
I'm on the Mac and in About it does give all the version info but it is on a part of the page that is not selectable.
I bookmarked those two pages on FaithLife and will look at them tomorrow and this weekend.
Thank you for your help!
Johnny
MacBook Pro | iMac | OS X Mountain Lion | iPad | iPhone 4s |Logos Bible Software 5.0a SR-4 (5.0.1.0291) Gold |
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Hi Johnny
Thank you for your help!
You are welcome - I hope the pages are useful, please come back with any follow-up questions you might have
Graham
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I agree with the current default behavior, it makes sense that when you pick up a device it remains at the location where you left that particular device-that's how a book works. It would be unexpected if it flipped ahead without my command. However, I do believe we definitely need a Sync to Furthest Page Read command like the Kindle has:
I agree with a "furthest read" feature. However I think you might not be clear as to what some of us are asking for. It's not that we want the book to be "flipped ahead without my command." Instead we want to book to sync no matter what to the points where I'm currently reading no matter what device I'm reading. here's the scenario again.
Let's say I'm reading Pilgrim's Progress on my iPad and get to page 42. Then I just put my ipad in by bookbag without doing anything but closing the smart cover so the screen sleeps. Three hours later I pull out my iPhone as I'm standing in line at the bus stop and I start reading. I want it to be on page 42 no matter where it was when I last opened it on my iPhone. Then I read to page 44. I get to my office and fire up my computer and decide to read a few pages on the computer. The book should open to page 44 on the computer. If I read to page 55, when I open either my iPhone, my iPad or my hope computer they should all open to page 55.
There could be a link somewhere that says, "Open to furthest read or last left off on this device" when I open the book. That way we both get what we want easily. That may present extremely difficult coding challenges. I don't know. But it sure would be sweet.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association0
