Why I am starting to hate this software
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Dan DeVilder said:J. Kane said:
I think a lot of this is simply a matter of perspective.
no kidding. I often think about what it was like lugging my books around and how LONG it took to open the pages, to set them up in a half circle on a large enough desktop around me, etc. etc. In view of that 20-190 seconds seems like nothin'.
on the other hand, when I have my laptop at a basketball game and want to show a seminary student something in Logos and it takes 40 seconds to load, that is really annoying. i'm soooo deprived.
Having your books with you on the laptop or the iPad you don't have to worry about them being checked out of the library or only at the reserve desk with a two or three hour limit.
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I reinstalled Logos 4 at 4pm it is now 6:20 it is still preparing the library this is freaking crazy. 2+ hrs stuck on stage 1.
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Randall Lind said:
I reinstalled Logos 4 at 4pm it is now 6:20 it is still preparing the library this is freaking crazy. 2+ hrs stuck on stage 1.
Thats interesting. I loaded a netbook in about 20minutes and the prepare and the indexing were done in about another 20. Ofcourse I only have a little under 2k resources.
If you have more then the longer it will take...................
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Dan DeVilder said:BillS said:
I'd sure vote to go ahead & start it up & sync AFTER we can start using it. Don't delay us any more than it already does.
I don't know if this is what you are talking about, but I see the start up screen as a little button that allows us to open it up sooner if we like. Also, I right click on the Logos icon and select "pause for 4 hours" if I need it.
is okay, btw. We all do it! 
Hi Dan,
Thanks for the response... I've seen the "Start Now" button in the splash screen & have tried it... does Logos miss something I'd care about if I do that?
And LOL on [:'(] Blessings!
I'm still of the opinion that Sync needs to be streamlined... more in parallel with software open rather than in serial, prior to start. YMMV. :-)
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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FWIW, after closing L4, reopening my layout for OT studies took 1 minute 39 seconds. 19 resources and/or reports, 1 main window & 3 additional floating windows.
I'm pretty sure it's over 2 minutes on a 1st open.
It's slow enough that I ALWAYS open Logos WHILE working on something else so I'm not dead in the water for however long it takes.
Just for recreational purposes (I'm sure), though I've had it open all day, Logos decided to reindex after restarting just now. Though the NIV11 RI downloaded earlier today, AFAIK it already reindexed once... No clue why it's reindexing again. <sigh>
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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Randall Lind said:
I reinstalled Logos 4 at 4pm it is now 6:20 it is still preparing the library this is freaking crazy. 2+ hrs stuck on stage 1.
Depends on resources in your Logos library and computer capabilities for indexing time.
For my Logos library, creating Bible and Library indexes takes 3.2 hours on a Windows 7 laptop with 2.0 GHz Quad Core i7-2630QM, but takes 10.5 hours on an iMac with 2.93 GHz Quad Core i7 (first generation); both computers have 7200 RPM drives.
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Alan Charles Gielczyk said:
I understand all the frustration BUT, we have all been pestering Logos for notes and highlighting on our mobile devices for almost two years now and we finally have it. That said it comes at a price, the syncing to keep every platform in line with each other takes time. There are trade offs for every feature we all want so I just want to speak up and say thank you Logos for putting up with all of us and still trying to make all our desired features a reality!
Actually, we. All have not been pestering Logos for notes and syncing. I prefer not to take my notes in Logos, but other software. I have been pestering Logos about Personal Books on my iPad.
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Michael Childs said:
Actually, we. All have not been pestering Logos for notes and syncing. I prefer not to take my notes in Logos, but other software. I have been pestering Logos about Personal Books on my iPad.
Ditto on the notes. I was getting many in the L4 so I started to use another source, after I deleted many that were imported from L3. Now I basically will put a note next to the verse or leading in the passage and make the referral to the out-sourced note(s) file. Found it to make for better record and file keeping. I think that it does have some bearing on the indexing and the notes file in general when loading.....
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I called Logos but didn't have 30 mins to wait for tech. I am re-installing and if I have issues I will try to call Logos again tomorrow. I did wait a bit but got disconnected.
I have 7.09GB of resources to download over 2000+ books
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BillS said:
Thanks for the response... I've seen the "Start Now" button in the splash screen & have tried it... does Logos miss something I'd care about if I do that?
No. Whether or not you made changes just before you shut down L4 it will do what is necessary on startup; "Start Now" just defers it.
The new Sync establishes milestones & sync's document stores at startup and when L4 is running, even if you make no changes to documents/preferences and even if you've no mobile device with which to sync! It will not sync whilst the app is idle!
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Randall Lind said:
I formatted my hard drive and reinstall everything
Knowing Logos 4 is resource intensive, I created a Fast partition for a custom Logos 4 installation => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/24555/254929.aspx#254929
Later reply in What's your benchmark? thread has partitioning insights => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/24555/295749.aspx#295749 and => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/24555/295852.aspx#295852 plus a follow-up speed tweak => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/24555/295894.aspx#295894
Since Logos 4 is custom installed in its own partition, which always has fast disk response, Windows patching seems to not affect Logos 4 usage speed. Also, Logos 4 is still quite usable after adding thousands of Perseus resources plus Master Library Builder (2,010 vols.)
Caveat: if want to completely rebuild indexes, have learned my 320 MB RAMDisk is too small. For incremental indexing, works fine.
An option to consider is a Solid State Disk (SSD) for Logos 4 custom installation.
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George Somsel said:
If anything, I think Accordance has probably lost business to Logos. Originally Logos was PC only while Accordance handled the MAC. All of the MAC users of Logos either were or could have been Accordance users (and some may use both programs.).
I know of one Logos user who has shifted his primary Bible study to Accordance and a few Accordance users who tried Logos and went back to Accordance. In the early days of L4, I was accused of promoting Accordance on the Logos forums. Now, I seldom even open Accordance. Then, only to keep up with upgrades. I agree with George (scary thought) that Accordance sales have probably done little to hurt Logos.
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Well, this is one Logos user that would 'add' Accordance, if it supported PCs (sorry Jack, as regards the Mac). As much as I've whined about Logos (4 mainly), my little Libronix (only 3K books) is just my absolute favorite and L4 now runs like a top.
But when it's time to buy resources, Logos is all tapped out. I recognize this is strictly personal and I've no complaint with Logos here. But each software company seems to attract a specific customer population. Having watched Jastrow go nowhere, and Samaritan Penteteuch disappear, and no Targum translations, I am convinced these type of customers are all over at the Accordance book store.
Believe it or not, when it was time to spend my credits, one of my volumes was a $150 book on Asherah. $1 per page. But it turned out to be well worth it (the author though was about 180 degrees from me). The clue was 'spindle whorls' and 2nd Kings ... which then tracked to the Qumran archaeology book (very good). You just never know where you're going to end up.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Jack Caviness said:George Somsel said:
If anything, I think Accordance has probably lost business to Logos. Originally Logos was PC only while Accordance handled the MAC. All of the MAC users of Logos either were or could have been Accordance users (and some may use both programs.).
I know of one Logos user who has shifted his primary Bible study to Accordance and a few Accordance users who tried Logos and went back to Accordance. In the early days of L4, I was accused of promoting Accordance on the Logos forums. Now, I seldom even open Accordance. Then, only to keep up with upgrades. I agree with George (scary thought) that Accordance sales have probably done little to hurt Logos.
I'm not sure if I am the one Jack is talking about, but I am using Accordance more and more these days.
When Logos 4 was initially released I got the feeling that Logos was going to make an attempt to "get some market share" in original language searching. When Perseus was released my hopes really skyrocketed. Alas, it was all a pipe dream (especially on the Mac side of things). Logos has never caught up with the speed and reliability of its competitors in terms of study of the original languages. This is just unacceptable in my book.
Yes, Logos was the first on the block with syntax searching, but its now a terrible user experience (at least on the Mac). Yes, Logos has some great morphological searching capabilities, but its a terrible user experience (again, at least on the Mac). I've been using the beta (so I expect some buggy-ness), but we are between beta's now and there are several unresolved morph and syntax search issues. I, in all honesty, can't remember a time that I have used the morphological or syntactical search functionality in Logos without being confronted by a bug. That is just not acceptable in my book.
Logos is expanding in some interesting directions, and I appreciate many of the advanced features of Logos. However, I can't use Logos for the one thing I bought it for: original language study.
Accordance doesn't have all the resources, but it does do original languages well.
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Jonathan said:Jack Caviness said:George Somsel said:
If anything, I think Accordance has probably lost business to Logos. Originally Logos was PC only while Accordance handled the MAC. All of the MAC users of Logos either were or could have been Accordance users (and some may use both programs.).
I know of one Logos user who has shifted his primary Bible study to Accordance and a few Accordance users who tried Logos and went back to Accordance. In the early days of L4, I was accused of promoting Accordance on the Logos forums. Now, I seldom even open Accordance. Then, only to keep up with upgrades. I agree with George (scary thought) that Accordance sales have probably done little to hurt Logos.
I'm not sure if I am the one Jack is talking about, but I am using Accordance more and more these days.
When Logos 4 was initially released I got the feeling that Logos was going to make an attempt to "get some market share" in original language searching. When Perseus was released my hopes really skyrocketed. Alas, it was all a pipe dream (especially on the Mac side of things). Logos has never caught up with the speed and reliability of its competitors in terms of study of the original languages. This is just unacceptable in my book.
Yes, Logos was the first on the block with syntax searching, but its now a terrible user experience (at least on the Mac). Yes, Logos has some great morphological searching capabilities, but its a terrible user experience (again, at least on the Mac). I've been using the beta (so I expect some buggy-ness), but we are between beta's now and there are several unresolved morph and syntax search issues. I, in all honesty, can't remember a time that I have used the morphological or syntactical search functionality in Logos without being confronted by a bug. That is just not acceptable in my book.
Logos is expanding in some interesting directions, and I appreciate many of the advanced features of Logos. However, I can't use Logos for the one thing I bought it for: original language study.
Accordance doesn't have all the resources, but it does do original languages well.
There is a way to solve your problems.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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I reinstalled logos4 again 2 times last night and sometime while I slept it finish. Only question I woke up and index was at 73% and windows rebooted do to a update and then indexing went back to 0%. Is this normal?
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George Somsel said:
There is a way to solve your problems.
I agree... an HP product would complement the buggy-ness nicely. I am sure that I'd be so distracted by other issues that I'd hardly notice Logos' short-comings. [:P]
Unfortunately, Mac users are accustomed to functionality.
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george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Randall ... that sounds pretty normal (with a Windows update). One time my indexer got stuck at 30% and luckily a reboot got it started back at 0%. If it had restarted at 30% I'd be in a real pickle.
I hope you know we all are 'rooting' for you. You're admirably stubborn in getting Logos to work. Apparently 'sometimes' a user runs into a whole set of unexpected issues.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Jonathan said:George Somsel said:
There is a way to solve your problems.
I agree... an HP product would complement the buggy-ness nicely. I am sure that I'd be so distracted by other issues that I'd hardly notice Logos' short-comings.
Unfortunately, Mac users are accustomed to functionality.
I grew up in Indiana. Since they were manufactured in the state, you can imagine that I saw more Studebakers than you might see elsewhere. Some of their designs were rather forward-looking, but they tended to be underpowered. I can recall that when we passed a Studebaker we would roll down the windows and yell, "Get a car!" Well, "Get a PC."
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
I grew up in Indiana. Since they were manufactured in the state, you can imagine that I saw more Studebakers than you might see elsewhere. Some of their designs were rather forward-looking, but they tended to be underpowered. I can recall that when we passed a Studebaker we would roll down the windows and yell, "Get a car!" Well, "Get a PC."
So you grew up in Indiana? Ahhh, that explains a lot. I also have a crazy uncle from Indiana. [:P]
Just kidding around of course.
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Regarding Studebakers, I wonder why really neato cars all start out underpowered?
My guess, from my corporate days, is that forward thinkers have to beg for resources, under-equip to meet ROI calcs, and end up 'the Studebaker'.
Here in Sedona, the various car clubs like to visit and 'strut their stuff'. Almost inevitably they're driving those neato cars that everyone now loves, but didn't sell at the time.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Jonathan said:
So you grew up in Indiana? Ahhh, that explains a lot. I also have a crazy uncle from Indiana.
Just kidding around of course.
Of course you are. I used to feel that way too, but then I grew up.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
I grew up in Indiana. [....]
Kewl!, Marion County roots here…..I suspected you did, based on u'r accent....[*-)]DISCLAIMER: What you do on YOUR computer is your doing.
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Robert Booth said:George Somsel said:
I grew up in Indiana. [....]
Kewl!, Marion County roots here…..I suspected you did, based on u'r accent....
Speaking of Indiana.
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Jonathan.
And your point is? [you are not trying to hijack the thread by meandering arounds the woods looking for a seat are you?]
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[:D] [:D] [:D]Jonathan said:Robert Booth said:George Somsel said:I grew up in Indiana. [....]
Kewl!, Marion County roots here…..I suspected you did, based on u'r accent....
Speaking of Indiana.
The problem (besides the fact that one can't detect accents in email) is that I don't have a Hoosier accent (which varies within the state) since in college I deliberately got rid of it when some students at Calvin said "You're from the South, aren't you?" Initiate operation accent change.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Robert Booth said:
Jonathan.
And your point is?
In jest, I'm saying we better give this thread back to its rightful purpose.
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Robert Booth said:
Kewl!, Marion County roots here…..I suspected you did, based on u'r accent....
Howard
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:Jonathan said:Robert Booth said:George Somsel said:
I grew up in Indiana. [....]
Kewl!, Marion County roots here…..I suspected you did, based on u'r accent....
Speaking of Indiana.
The problem (besides the fact that one can't detect accents in email) is that I don't have a Hoosier accent (which varies within the state) since in college I deliberately got rid of it when some students at Calvin said "You're from the South, aren't you?" Initiate operation accent change.
I hail from Rush County in the Hoosier state. When I moved to Arizona in the late '60's, I learned to speak Spanish (with a Hoosier accent) and then moved to Missouri for undergrad work at a Bible College and there I learned to speak Greek with a Hoosier/Spanish/Missouri accent. Now I'm trying to teach my self Hebrew which will probably have a Hoosier/Spanish/Missouri/Greek/Iowa accent.
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Bill, I fell off my chair....hahahahahhaaaa!!!
Sometimes when I am 'hand'writing something to someone in a hurry, I don't catch myself using Gk/Hb characters, Then they come back and ask me 'what is this word?' I feel a little embarrassed......maybe I should learn 'spanglish' or maybe 'engreek' my son say's 'Hebrish'
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I wonder if Randall got things working, haven't heard from him lately/?
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Robert Booth said:
Bill, I fell off my chair....hahahahahhaaaa!!!
Sometimes when I am 'hand'writing something to someone in a hurry, I don't catch myself using Gk/Hb characters, Then they come back and ask me 'what is this word?' I feel a little embarrassed......maybe I should learn 'spanglish' or maybe 'engreek' my son say's 'Hebrish'
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I wonder if Randall got things working, haven't heard from him lately/?
I catch myself doing that all the time... especially with alpha for some reason...
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since 2am still indexing but other then that I think it is working. Still takes forever to open maybe because of indexing. I am going to call and ask for a help really upset over this.
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George Somsel said:
There is a way to solve your problems.
I have an HP, and it does not solve any problems. While L4 does function better in a few areas, I still must put up with Windows shortcomings.
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Logo Tech support sorry can't help you until it finish indexing. I bet the guy doesn't know why the program is slow.
What lousy tech support index started back @ 0% when I open it. I was told to call back when it gets done indexing. I will fix it myself.
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Randall Lind said:
What lousy tech support index started back @ 0% when I open it. I was told to call back when it gets done indexing. I will fix it myself.
Good, it sounds as though you have a lousy attitude. [:(]
george
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Jack Caviness said:
I have an HP
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Randall Lind said:
Only question I woke up and index was at 73% and windows rebooted do to a update and then indexing went back to 0%. Is this normal?
Yes. Personally have Windows Update set to notify me, which allows me to choose when to download and reboot.
Logos 4 is a resource intensive program, whose performance can be adversely affected by other programs (e.g. cloud backup, aggressive anti-malware, ...).
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I have windows set for 3 am but it downloads any time it feels like it. Which makes 3 am kind of useless. I believe 3 am is the default setting.
I may sound like an idiot but, after 2 days you be upset too.
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Randall Lind said:
I may sound like an idiot but, after 2 days you be upset too.
Understand frustration; personally have Logos 4.5a installed on two computers so can use one while the other is indexing. With computers sitting side by side on a table, have a dual monitor configuration, which can sync using Logos servers.
By the way, learned many years ago, "never let anything mechanical know you are in a hurry"
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Randall Lind said:
I may sound like an idiot but, after 2 days you be upset too.
You don't sound like an idiot... When you spend hundreds to (perhaps) thousands of dollars you expect a certain quality of customer service and software functionality. If you spent $1.50 I'd say you're too upset, but I am guessing that you spent just a little bit more than $1.50 [:)].
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Randall,
I am wondering if there might be an issue with the antivirus software or maybe the sync folder function with windows itself. To be honest I have never read of this major of an issue before.
I remember sometime back that there was an issue w/antivirus software but for the life of me I can not remember where the thread is located....and could not find it but it went something along the lines of disabling it until L4 had finished.
If you try to re-do the re-install, after you run through the control panel and remove it, go and get 'CCleaner' off the internet and load and run it a few times w/a reboot, its free and it seems to work pretty good. It will run the regedit and look for hotkey issues that windows sometimes leaves behind.
I am at a loss as to what else could be the issue with your system, other than possible a little slow - no offense.
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Robert Booth said:
I remember sometime back that there was an issue w/antivirus software but for the life of me I can not remember where the thread is located....and could not find it but it went something along the lines of disabling it until L4 had finished.
Logos support has => http://www.logos.com/support/article/webroot due to false positives with Avira and Webroot.
By the way, Logos 4.5b Beta 1 is buggy on Mac; my indexer is consistently crashing for one of two resources (now to figure out which one).
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Logos support has => http://www.logos.com/support/article/webroot due to false positives with Avira and Webroot.
By the way, Logos 4.5b Beta 1 is buggy on Mac; my indexer is consistently crashing for one of two resources (now to figure out which one).
Keep Smiling
Dude, right spot on!! Hehehehe! Thats why you got the 74xx posts...............Thanks.
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Fred Chapman said:
It a business computer. Unfortunately, L4 Mac is rapidly turning into a real dog—and not one as pretty as Halo Hound. Superior OS with an inferior application.
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I woke up today and I can tell God is smiling my direction. Logos 4 had finish indexing after a day or so and is up to date 4.5a as far as I know there were no updates to pull today. Also Logos 4 took 23-24 seconds to open and another for homepage which is fast like the day I brought it. (2,546 books)
This is a great deal better then the weeks before I reloaded my laptop. Now if God would give my vet the full biopsy report with a answer to help my dog day would be perfect (No pressure Jesus :P)
Today will be a good day regardless
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George Somsel said:
If anything, I think Accordance has probably lost business to Logos. Originally Logos was PC only while Accordance handled the MAC. All of the MAC users of Logos either were or could have been Accordance users (and some may use both programs.).
Well, I still buy some resources on Logos, but I have switched to Accordance as my primary software. I'm not being mean.. Logos 4 is just too slow and buggy. I waited and waited patiently, defending Logos as they were getting their Mac application off the ground, but after a couple of years I couldn't wait any more. Every release that comes out I have at least one bug that I work around, sometimes more. I've crashed Logos many, many times and I don't bring it up on here any more because I get the usual range of apologetics or ten links to wiki pages that I have already read many times (and in fact I helped write some of the earlier versions of). I bought a Mac when we had an extremely difficult experience from Microsoft Vista because I wanted trouble free computing. Sadly, I put Logos at times in this category because it simply is not trouble free. In the same token, I finally got Accordance because I wanted trouble free computing.
So Logos is largely just a reference library for me, albeit a good one due to some materials I have accumulated over the last 10 years, but my go to program first thing in the morning for Bible Study is Accordance. I don't recall the last time it crashed. It is very fast, fast, fast. I love doing textual studies on it. In some ways in my humble opinion the UI of Accordance is superior when it comes to manipulating text. It's efficient, smooth as silk and easy to bring together. I don't actually have as many resources particularly when it comes to public domain stuff on Accordance, but everything that I really need is right there so my work flow is optimal. With time, in terms of materials based on current scholarship, I will most likely accumulate a library on Accordance which will more than hold it's own with my Logos Library.
If a friend asks me which software package to buy, unless they are engaged in formal studies and need access to a large theological library, I refer them to Accordance as most of what they need is there. If someone is engaged in formal studies and needs access to some of the extensive works that we can get on Logos, I usually recommend they get Accordance and then buy a minimal Logos package and then add materials as required to use as a reference library. This is not to say Logos can't be used for Biblical studies. Without doubt they can do Biblical studies on Logos, but under the current conditions, I would posit that they will be inclined to load up Accordance as I do.
So going to what George said, has Accordance lost business to Logos? I don't know. As near as I can tell, business is good for Logos and Accordance also continues to grow. Regardless, I didn't make my decision to try to hurt Logos or make any other kind of statement. I simply wanted to study the Bible and I needed a sharp tool in my tool box that would help me get stuff done in a trouble free way.
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Yea Randall!!!!! Good news.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Randall Lind said:
I woke up today and I can tell God is smiling my direction. Logos 4 had finish indexing after a day or so and is up to date 4.5a as far as I know there were no updates to pull today. Also Logos 4 took 23-24 seconds to open and another for homepage which is fast like the day I brought it. (2,546 books)
This is a great deal better then the weeks before I reloaded my laptop. Now if God would give my vet the full biopsy report with a answer to help my dog day would be perfect (No pressure Jesus :P)
Today will be a good day regardless
I'm glad to hear things are going well. Many more happy days.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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