Logos Android App Development Seems to Have Slowed to a Crawl
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Dan Francis said:
By the way, appears Android development is a bit more expensive than iOS so one game developer is abandoning Android due to lack of profitability => http://mikamobile.blogspot.in/2012/03/our-future-with-android.html
Thanks that explains many of the issues very well, and while logos is not selling mobile apps at all, to make an APP covering most of the hardware out there is not as easy as one might hope.
I'm sure app dev on Android is more difficult, since I've heard this from many developers who do it for both Android and iOS, I don't think the issues the gaming company cited has are applicable with the Logos app. It's graphically pretty straightforward app. I doubt they have to deal with all the problems a 3D gaming environment brings. The compatibility issues for multiple devices won't affect Logos nearly as much.
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Bob Pritchett said:
On the contrary, Android development has accelerated recently and in the past few months we've more than doubled staffing on the Android team.
I understand that you can't see inside our organization, but you could just ask "What's up with Android development?" instead of posting provocative headlines like "Android App Development Seems to Have Slowed to a Crawl." I understand that the "seems" gets you off the hook of making an untrue statement -- because technically it "seems" to you dev has slowed to a crawl, even though you have no data on which to base any statements about the development, which by its nature happens inside Logos and out of sight.
But provocative headlines do get your forum threads read... that's why I'm going to start one with the equally true (and disconnected from facts) headline "Logos Android users not ruled-out as suspects in flash mob crime spree." I mean, you haven't all been cleared, right? The police haven't announced arresting anyone else yet, right? It could have been you... I don't know it wasn't... Maybe there was a real-life "ice cream sandwich tablet" on display...
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Okay, I'm being defensive... I know you just want the Android app, and we've not been delivering enough information. We'll keep trying:
We're on it. It's getting better every day. We have a team of 4-5 developers assigned specifically to Android (not counting all the shared code it uses from other devs/teams). Our primary Android targets are phones and the Kindle Fire, because Android hasn't made much market-share progress on tablets yet. (But we have many Android tablets on site and are working on them, too.)
The Android app is rapidly catching up and major new releases are coming shortly. The other "unannounced" products people think are stealing time from "the things I want done first" are actually built on the same code base. Yes, we're doing many things, but we're also making sure that everything we do "kills two birds with one stone." The net result of our recent efforts has been a doubling of the Android team, not a detraction from it.
By the way... for all those who said or agreed with "I think that it is better to complete one task before moving on to the next." -- is it alright with you if we stop all Android development and move those developers back to working on Logos 4 for the Mac desktop? Or fixing Logos 4 Windows issues? Or working on Proclaim? As a matter of principle? Because there were no Android tablets or Kindle Fire when we released those products and promised updates...
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Thank you for the update Bob. I have an iPad (version 1 WiFi only), but I want to get my own phone since my employer will shut down in the coming months and I don't want to keep the ages old BlackBerry. I waffle between an iPhone 5 when it arrives and the Samsung Galaxy Note (available now). I am confident after reading your post that the Logos Android app will be satisfactory for my intended use on the Galaxy (the iPAd will still be my primary mobile Logos device), so I am leaning in that direction.
And I can sure appreciate what you must feel about some of the derogatory posts. I've faced the same challenges as a data warehouse developer/manager/administrator for 15 years. There's always somebody expressing their frustration at being underserved by spreading speculative gossip instead of asking direct questions with an open mind.
Have a great Easter season, and send the same greetings to the whole Logos team for me.
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I will chime in on this. Having developed the same application for android, iphone and most recently windows phone 7 I would say that development for iOS is MORE expensive and difficult than the others.
For one, you can only develop iOS apps on a Mac, a rather expensive piece of hardware considering the cost of a comparable PC. Secondly, Xcode, bleck. I have much experience with C++ but Apples version, XCode, just seems harder than it should be. I am sure a lot of this was unfamiliarity with the dev environment and the unique aspects of the language.
Android, is Java based and can be developed with open source tools, ie - cheaply. The Davlik VM is different than the standard Java VM but enough similiarity is there. Framework is of course different as well.
Windows Phone 7, XAML and SIlverlight. Painful. Free tools, alhough limited. Really bad documentation.
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Stephen Smith said:
I have much experience with C++
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We live in a instant society.. but being a developer I know some solutions are not instant, and quick fixes usually come back to haunt you.. and take more time to put right
Whilst I am champing at the bit for a new update, I would rather they get it right first time, than them making it worse in the long term.. and burying us in patches/updates
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BTW, more developers are NOT necessarily better. It depends if you have parallel tasks; if not, they just trip over each other. It's also worth noting that the most productive programmers are many times (perhaps 10) more productive than average programmers.
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Glad that 1.0 Beta 1 has been released!
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No matter how mad your customers' comments make you, there is a certain amount of tactfulness that should be exhibited in order to remain professional. I know it is easy to let emotions pour out in posts when they are hot out of the oven especially if you are replying to unfounded statements. All I am saying is take a break before replying and think about how your customers will perceive your posts. Just trying to help.
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Hi Ron,
Did you mean to post this comment on this thread? I looked back and didn't see any previous posts from you over the last three pages (I might have missed it, in which case I apologize). I only make this comment since this thread seemed to get a little testy a while back, and I would hate to see fresh powder and a new fuse stuck back in this particular keg unnecessarily.
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