Retrieving a Custom Passage Guide and Notes
Hi amigos!
How do I retrieve a custom Passage Guide? I was working (very first time), with some notes in it, adding sections, etc., but where is the PG? And my notes?
BTW: Trying to find out something in the forum, I was overwhelmed with the search results. Is there a way to filter this searches in order to get only treads names, instead of a hundreds of entries?
Gracias. 
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If you have a general idea as to the day/date, and you have a long list of Layout snapshots, you could possibly scroll down the layout list looking for it - for starters.
If you named it, than i think that the same applies to the scrolling of the layout snapshots.
as for searching the thread start with maybe 'retrieve' then 'retrieve layout' being more specfic as you search helps to narrow the search...
hope this helps..
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Another thought is open Tools > History (or press Ctrl+H) and look through that for the most recent (or only?) occurrence of "Passage Guide". Click on that and it should open it back up to where you last were.
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ROGER JIMENEZ said:
How do I retrieve a custom Passage Guide? I was working (very first time), with some notes in it, adding sections, etc., but where is the PG? And my notes?
Anytime that you add notes to a PG (Passage Guide) or CPG (Custom Passage Guide), Logos4 saves this special PG/CPG as a saved PG (since you added a note).
If you remember a word in the note area or which Bible book that you were using in the PG, then you can use Search as shown below to locate it.
To learn more about saved guides, see this wiki page About Saved Exegetical Guides (it discusses the Exegetical Guide, but the principal is the same)
As for finding your Custom PG, did you create it from the Guide menu on the toolbar, or did you modify an open PG?
If you modified an open PG, then you didn't create a Custom PG. That modified PG is just saved as another saved PG.
Since this was the very first time for you, i suspect that you were modifying an already open PG. See this wiki page for instructions on creating a Custom Passage Guide (PG): Building a Custom Guide Example
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ROGER JIMENEZ said:
BTW: Trying to find out something in the forum, I was overwhelmed with the search results. Is there a way to filter this searches in order to get only treads names, instead of a hundreds of entries?
If you learn to use the wiki Table Of Contents (TOC), you will seldom need to search the wiki. The wiki TOC is laid out in the order that you see items on the Top Menu of Logos4 (Library, Search, Files (Documents), Guides, Tools, Layout
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ROGER JIMENEZ said:
BTW: Trying to find out something in the forum, I was overwhelmed with the search results. Is there a way to filter this searches in order to get only treads names, instead of a hundreds of entries?
Yes, doing a Google search on the forum is much more flexible than the Forum search feature itself.
To use Google to search the forums, add site:community.logos.com (note: no space after the colon) as one of your search terms.
To limit the search results to only ones from threads with a certain word or phrase in the thread name, use the intitle: directive in the Google search. If it's just one word, then put it right after intitle: without any space. If it's a phrase, put it in quotes.
For example: intitle:"custom passage guide" site:community.logos.com will find threads with that phrase in their title.
For more information on searching the Forums using Google, see http://wiki.logos.com/Using_the_Forum#Searching_the_forum_using_Google
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Yay! They added Search in My Content! I had not noticed that yet. We'd been asking for it.
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ROGER JIMENEZ said:
How do I retrieve a custom Passage Guide? I was working (very first time), with some notes in it, adding sections, etc., but where is the PG? And my notes?
Create a custom Passage Guide with only the My Content section. for the range of the Passage Guide put Gen-Rev. This will list every passage guide, among other things. If you know the passage the Guide is for run the My Content Guide on that portion.
There is also another way. If you know the exact reference range you used to create the guide run the same custom guide with that range. It should pull up that other guide with all the notes. If you do not know the exact range but you know it included a single verse run the guide on that verse. At the top of that guide right under the reference entry box you will see a bar that says "See Also <your other saved Guide>.
<edit> Just saw the "My content" search option above. That's a better way then my first suggestion above.
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Thanks a lot. You all so kind mis amigos!
Ok. But, what's really a Custom PG, a file, a custom report? Usefull searching "My content" thanks for the tip. But it seems to be another unfinished tool in L4. (I mean, PG).
If it were a custom report, should work in Favorites, if a file, in the File menu.A couple of issues. It's a bit strange procedure to create a PG file/report (whatever you call it). The command "Edit guide template", is located on a site not normally used for it. It's also unorthodox having to search for a file, because the "File" menu, doesn't filter "Passage guide" file.
But anyway, I am happy with your answers. Please, take one [G] [:D]0 -
Rosie Perera said:
To limit the search results to only ones from threads with a certain word or phrase in the thread name, use the intitle: directive in the Google search. If it's just one word, then put it right after intitle: without any space. If it's a phrase, put it in quotes.
For example: intitle:"custom passage guide" site:community.logos.com will find threads with that phrase in their title.
Just for you Rosie [G]
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ROGER JIMENEZ said:
what's really a Custom PG, a file, a custom report?
See this wiki page example: Building a Custom Guide Example . L4 will remember how you have customized it. You can create as many Custom PGs as you need.
ROGER JIMENEZ said:If it were a custom report, should work in Favorites, if a file, in the File menu.
Logos4 allows us to save independant PGs when we have gone to the trouble to add notes in them. Unfortunately, the only way to find them is as you say, add a link to them in our Favorites. Or use Search with MyContent.
ROGER JIMENEZ said:A couple of issues. It's a bit strange procedure to create a PG file/report (whatever you call it). The command "Edit guide template", is located on a site not normally used for it.
After you build a custom PG, you don't have to search for it. It will always show up under the Guide menu. Its more for starting a custom guide so that it always starts with your preferred arrangement.
PGs are really not the best place to add notes too. If you were keeping notes on a Bible scripture range, then create a Note File. You could always add a hyperlink in your Note file to the Passage Guide and L4 will remember what range you had showing in the PG when you click on the hyperlink in your note.
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ROGER JIMENEZ said:
If it were a custom report, should work in Favorites, if a file, in the File menu.
A couple of issues. It's a bit strange procedure to create a PG file/report (whatever you call it). The command "Edit guide template", is located on a site not normally used for it. It's also unorthodox having to search for a file, because the "File" menu, doesn't filter "Passage guide" file.
I agree with you. There should be a way from the Guide Menu of finding created guides. The above methods work ok for finding passage and exegetical guides but not for finding saved Bible Word Studies. I find them to be virtually unretreiveable.
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Thanks Steve.
steve clark said:PGs are really not the best place to add notes too. If you were keeping notes on a Bible scripture range, then create a Note File. You could always add a hyperlink in your Note file to the Passage Guide and L4 will remember what range you had showing in the PG when you click on the hyperlink in your note.
Yes, I agree. But I just wanted you use the option. It seemed a good choice to make notes on the revised sections. One solution is to put a mark in each section, without having to expand the sections (All collapsed).
I'll take a glance to the wiki. [:D]
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Halo Hound said:
I agree with you. There should be a way from the Guide Menu of finding created guides. The above methods work ok for finding passage and exegetical guides but not for finding saved Bible Word Studies. I find them to be virtually unretreiveable.
Not entirely accurate.
Granted, the BWS is probably the most used by any given user, and by far probably the most listed in the 'History'[type history in the command box and hit enter]. Scrolling will show BWS's listed. Saving a bws? never really done so and do not think that it is possible w/out saving the layout or just a layout title w/the word used. I am sure someone can comment further....
As for a customized PG's; you can always add or remove something at will to any given study. Just hover of a particualar tab in the PG and right-click and the list will be provided. It will be the same as when closed when reopened....It is also layout specific, meaning that if you only have 6 listings showing in one layout and 10 in another, they will not change in that saved layout unless you physically do so. On a new layout it will open with what you closed the 'PG' listings as. I hope this helps....
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Hi R4m,
Room4more said:Saving a bws? never really done so and do not think that it is possible w/out saving the layout or just a layout title w/the word used. I am sure someone can comment further....
L4 keeps track of BWS when you enter data into user enter-able areas of a BWS (same for PG/EG). See this wiki article: Saved Bible Word Study’s
They do this so users can keep their research when investigating a word in BWS. The problem we run into is they don't show up, except when using Search. And even then we need to know what to search for.
As you mentioned, History will show what we had open. But it will not tell us if it was saved (hidden away in our databases). Over large periods of time we can loose track of notes that we added in a BWS (unless we add a link to them in Favorites or something similar).
PS. L4 also keeps track when we change the layout of a guide (manually rearrange, remove a section, or add a section). But saved changes are kept relative to which word that we were investigating.
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Well there ya go Halo and Roger.
See I knew someone would know.....
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Rosie Perera said:
Another thought is open Tools > History (or press Ctrl+H)
BTW, History, another mess tool. At least should it be divided into sections, >Today >Yesterday >... (Like search history)
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ROGER JIMENEZ said:Rosie Perera said:
Another thought is open Tools > History (or press Ctrl+H)
BTW, History, another mess tool. At least should it be divided into sections, >Today >Yesterday >... (Like search history)
Agreed! Also need to be able to Search in it. And all the "Passage Guide" entries in it are indistinguishable -- they should show what passage was being studied by that guide.
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