Must Have Packer & Lloyd-Jones
Just wondering if anyone has recommendations for "must have" Packer or Lloyd-Jones from the Logos March Madness sale. My resources are very tight right now, but I will probably have a little gift money this week and wanted to know your thoughts. 
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alabama24 said:
Just wondering if anyone has recommendations for "must have" Packer or Lloyd-Jones from the Logos March Madness sale. My resources are very tight right now, but I will probably have a little gift money this week and wanted to know your thoughts.
I can't really tell anything about "must-have"s, but I burned my last Christmas credit on
- http://www.logos.com/product/155/concise-theology (noting I already owned http://www.logos.com/product/568/growing-in-christ since January) from Packer and
- http://www.logos.com/product/3417/revival plus http://www.logos.com/product/10370/great-doctrines-of-the-bible from Lloyd-Jones.
My €0.02
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NB.Mick said:
My €0.02
Thanks for that. These days, that is considerably more than 2 cents US. [:D]
I already have 3 of the 4… I will put "revival" in my shopping cart and wait until the "finals" before I make a decision.
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I just read 'Finding Faithful Elders and Deacons' by Anyabwile (very good, btw). At the end he says the following (underlining mine):
Having been committed to Islam at one time, I came to Christ perhaps a bit hyper about doctrine and theology. From the beginning I was driven to read sound doctrinal works. I did not know the term doctrine or have a coherent sense of what I was looking for other than accurate knowledge of God. Imagine how my heart jumped when on the first weekday following my conversion, I visited the local Christian bookstore, made my way to the theology section, and purchased two books—J. I. Packer’s Knowing God and Martyn Lloyd-Jones’s three-volume work, Great Doctrines of the Bible.
I had no idea what I was buying, but I have not been the same ever since purchasing and reading these classic works. The Lord showed me tremendous grace in leading me to these men and their work, starting my Christian life on sound doctrinal footing. I am ever so thankful.
Anyabwile, Thabiti M. (2012-01-08). Finding Faithful Elders and Deacons (Kindle Locations 1988-1995). Good News Publishers/Crossway Books. Kindle Edition.
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alabama24 said:
Just wondering if anyone has recommendations for "must have" Packer or Lloyd-Jones from the Logos March Madness sale. My resources are very tight right now, but I will probably have a little gift money this week and wanted to know your thoughts.
Dr. Lloyd-Jones published works can be broken down into four categories based on the source/occassion:
1. Sunday morning sermons
2. Sunday evening sermons
3. Friday night addresses
4. Other addresses, such as conferences
Martyn believed Sunday morning sermons and other parts of the morning worship servicve should be directed toward believers, and Sunday evening sermons and services should be more conducive to evengelism. Sunday evening sermonss he preached were no less the result of his thorough academic prowess, but what ends up in the sermon contains less academic material itself than his other addresses. The most scholarly of his published works were Friday night addresses/lecture (Romans and Great Doctrines) and those given at outside events.
The 5 volumes in the March Madness sale that are drawn from the book of Acts contain sermons preached on Sunday evening. Good to have, but I would not put them on a must-have list. Now if the Ephesians series, which is available in Logos, were part of the March Madness sale, I would certainly recommend those as a must-have without hesitation. The eight volumes on Ephesians comprise the single longest series of Sunday morning sermons Lloyd-Jones ever preached (the 14 volume Romans series, as stated above, were Friday night lectures/addresses). Even as a pre-pub in Oct. 2006 that series of 8 volumes on Ephesians was still $93, compared with the current price of $140
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Most thats available for Jones are the rest of the Acts sermons, which to combat the post-mode thinker is very good. His sermons on the Doctrine's are laymen friendly and very good, not to deep. And his sermons on Revival is a classic.
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Randal M Lane said:
The 5 volumes in the March Madness sale that are drawn from the book of Acts contain sermons preached on Sunday evening. Good to have, but I would not put them on a must-have list. Now if the Ephesians series, which is available in Logos, were part of the March Madness sale, I would certainly recommend those as a must-have without hesitation. The eight volumes on Ephesians comprise the single longest series of Sunday morning sermons Lloyd-Jones ever preached (the 14 volume Romans series, as stated above, were Friday night lectures/addresses). Even as a pre-pub in Oct. 2006 that series of 8 volumes on Ephesians was still $93, compared with the current price of $140
I was disappointed today to learn that the Ephesians series was off limits for March Madness. I was looking to pick that up for sure.
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Unless I'm missing something, Concise Theology and Great Doctrines of the Bible are included in all or most all the base packages. I already have them, at any rate, and glad to have them. It just seems interesting that resources that are included in base packages would be offered in the March Madness sale.
I also would have loved for Lloyd-Jones' Ephesians and/or Romans volumes to have been offered, though it's probably better for finances that they aren't right now. I may pick up the Acts volumes. I think they go through only chapter 8 of Acts.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Bill Moore said:
I also would have loved for Lloyd-Jones' Ephesians and/or Romans volumes to have been offered,
I bought Ephesians on the payment plan. But Romans is not even available in Logos, is it? Lloyd-Jones' Romans would be a wonderful edition to the Logos library of resources. It would make a wonderful conerstone to a Lloyd-Jones Works Collection.
Lloyd-Jones may not be quite as popular as the trendy N. T. Wright these days, but the Doctor gave the Bishop a run for his money in March Madness. And the Doctor has staying power, when it comes to popularity. Look how long he has been gone, yet he remains enormously popular. In other words, there is tremendous sales potential for Logos in Martyn Lloyd-Jones resources.
Surely, Logos would do well to pursue publishing more of Lloyd-Jones. Romans would be a great starting place, along with his Sermon on the Mount series. Those are two of his best.
(By the way, fans of the Doctor, if you search a little there are Martyn Lloyd-Jones audio sermons (mp3) available for free on the internet. I found them in One Place.)
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Michael Childs said:Bill Moore said:
I also would have loved for Lloyd-Jones' Ephesians and/or Romans volumes to have been offered,
I bought Ephesians on the payment plan. But Romans is not even available in Logos, is it? Lloyd-Jones' Romans would be a wonderful edition to the Logos library of resources. It would make a wonderful conerstone to a Lloyd-Jones Works Collection.
Lloyd-Jones may not be quite as popular as the trendy N. T. Wright these days, but the Doctor gave the Bishop a run for his money in March Madness. And the Doctor has staying power, when it comes to popularity. Look how long he has been gone, yet he remains enormously popular. In other words, there is tremendous sales potential for Logos in Martyn Lloyd-Jones resources.
Surely, Logos would do well to pursue publishing more of Lloyd-Jones. Romans would be a great starting place, along with his Sermon on the Mount series. Those are two of his best.
I think your wish would already be true were it not that the North American copyright for the Lloyd-Jones Romans volumes belongs to Zondervan (in Europe it is Banner of Truth, and the books are of far better quality!).
Yes, that publisher that yanked the 1984 NIV from publication, even digital publication, as some are lamenting today in another forum thread.
Yes, that publisher that was once owned by Harper Collins, the same Harper Collins owned by tycoon Rupert Murdoch. Yes, the same Murdoch that owns News Corp., the same News Corp. whose affiliates in Great Britain were caught hacking cell phones of celebrities and dignitaries last year. Murdoch left a cultural stain on Zondervan that will likely never be fully washed away in our lifetimes. His ownership of Zondervan may be gone, but his culture thrives there.
Yes, the same Zondervan that has more than once changed their digital platform and given users of the deprecated platform no or little credit toward owning their content in the newer platform.
Got the drift.
Zondervan, please read Romans!
"Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world" Romans 12:3 NIV 1984 (the once Zondervan wants to suppress)
"And do not be conformed to this world" Romans 12:3 Authorized Version, as Dr. Lloyd-Jones would prefer it.
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Randal M Lane said:Michael Childs said:Bill Moore said:
I also would have loved for Lloyd-Jones' Ephesians and/or Romans volumes to have been offered,
I bought Ephesians on the payment plan. But Romans is not even available in Logos, is it? Lloyd-Jones' Romans would be a wonderful edition to the Logos library of resources. It would make a wonderful conerstone to a Lloyd-Jones Works Collection.
Lloyd-Jones may not be quite as popular as the trendy N. T. Wright these days, but the Doctor gave the Bishop a run for his money in March Madness. And the Doctor has staying power, when it comes to popularity. Look how long he has been gone, yet he remains enormously popular. In other words, there is tremendous sales potential for Logos in Martyn Lloyd-Jones resources.
Surely, Logos would do well to pursue publishing more of Lloyd-Jones. Romans would be a great starting place, along with his Sermon on the Mount series. Those are two of his best.
I think your wish would already be true were it not that the North American copyright for the Lloyd-Jones Romans volumes belongs to Zondervan (in Europe it is Banner of Truth, and the books are of far better quality!).
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Randal, when or how did Zondervan get the Lloyd-Jones' Romans North American copyright? My 14-volume set was published by Banner of Truth UK/USA and CBD has the same set on its site. I cannot find Lloyd-Jones' Romans on the Zondervan site.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Looks like you are correct, and I am wrong.
Zondervan no longer holds these copyrights. I bought the last volume when it was released almost 10 years ago and have paid little attention since then.
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Regardless, I would hope that Logos is looking to add Lloyd-Jones' Romans. I treasure my hardcover set.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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