Steve K. Ray -books catholic-convert.com

As my beliefs are closest to the Catholic Church, and second closest to Mennonite Brethren, (according to Selectsmart.com) and I'm forced to go 2 semesters in a Baptist Bible college because it's the only college my grades are sufficient for that includes Biblical Greek, I would be very much interested in Steve Ray's works.

+ I'm somewhat unorthodox in my beliefs and trying to find out what the Johannite Church was like ~AD 90.

Steve K. Ray has done good research on litterature. I would really need some Catholic backing.

I LOVE going to the Catholic Church, they have it in British English over here in the Stockholm cathedral.. but I'm all the time going risking to go far astray as I spend a lot of time thinking on my own on theological topics.

That was it on books.

Also, I would like to have a friend in Stockholm/Uppsala: http://www.christianforums.com/t7614200/

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Rosie Perera

Juho, welcome to the Logos forums!

Just to clarify, are you asking for Logos to make Steve K. Ray's books available in Logos format? There was no mention of Logos in your post, so you probably ought to have made that more explicit if that's what you intended.

Some of the other stuff in your post was either irrelevant (recounting your personal theological position) or else made it look a bit spammish, I'm afraid to say. This isn't a Christian meet-up site, and we're not supposed to promote other websites such as the one in your subject line.

Unix

Yes I meant that I wish some of those books would be made available to Logos. (I thought that is presupposed in this forum.) It was unclear whether You also wished for Steve Ray items?

Sorry for the personal information, but I just wanted to describe the problem here in the Nordic, we don't have much of a choice over here regarding Bible colleges, even if I would have good grades from high-school I still wouldn't be able to get a lot of Catholic tuition, only to read Biblical Greek separately. There isn't even a Catholic Catechumen -group with the priest in English because it's difficult to gather a group he said. There's only in the local languages which I try to avoid in religious circumstances.

I won't be writing the contact request in more posts.

I think I'm a pretty typical case: I'm on my own in matters of belief and reading the Bible. Really hard to find anyone to discuss with face-to-face. The cathedral (where they have the English Mass), closes a few minutes after the Mass and the cafeteria is not open on regular weekends, not in English nor in the local language.

fgh

On topic reply:

These are the books Steve Ray has written:

Steve has used Logos almost as long as Rosie, so I'm sure he'd be happy to see his books here, but I'm less sure the market is big enough. Vyrso might work, though.

Off topic reply:

Rosie, are you having a bad day or something? We all know what church you go to. You've told us at a dozen times or more. So why this sudden urge to set a newbie straight with such language, when his post is no more off topic than many others we've seen? You usually do that far more gently.

That said, Juho, Rosie is right. These forums are for discussing Logos. We are explicitly asked not to discuss anything controversial, like religious or political beliefs. And, believe me, Catholicism is about as controversial as it gets around here. Posts like yours can very easily set off an avalanche of anti-Catholicism that makes this a rather nasty place for the next few weeks. So please stay on focus.

Also, as a Swede and theologically, if not formally, Catholic, I have to say that I don't quite recognize the country and church you describe. If you click on your name in one of your posts, you'll get to your profile page. Scroll down to the bottom, and you'll (soon) find a message there.

Unix

I haven't completed high-school, so yes it's impossible for me to get into higher studies. I would have about 1 semester left, but I've read all teacher-led courses and I wouldn't do well reading the courses by myself, it's not my way of learning. And I'm still waiting for inspiration to other areas of studies than religion. Besides, the higher studies here are not theologically what I would like to read.

Thanks for the hint You wrote on my profile, I appreciate, maybe I can meet some Catholic that way.

I think it's a good thing that the cathedral closes after Mass, it's easier for everyone to focus that way.

NB.Mick

These are the books Steve Ray has written:

Crossing the Tiber

Upon This Rock: St. Peter and the Primacy of Rome in Scripture and the Early Church (Modern Apologetics Library)

St. John's Gospel: A Bible Study Guide and Commentary

Steve has used Logos almost as long as Rosie, so I'm sure he'd be happy to see his books here, but I'm less sure the market is big enough. Vyrso might work, though.

You discussion intrigued me to have a look into the "St John's Gospel" bible study. Wow - from the Look-into pages at Amazon I couldn't refrain from buying it as a kindle version. Somehow when I read "bible study" I think of small-group material (Navigator's or Serendipidy - a bit text, some questions and much room for answers) - this is a 450+ pages book and the one star missing from the single non-five rating on Amazon is because it doesn't include the text itself!

This is heavily cross-referenced, especially to the CCC, but also to some of the "usual suspects" - from the bibliography it could as well be evangelical - so please don't do it in Vyrso. I promise I'll buy it in Logos format!

Rosie Perera

Rosie, are you having a bad day or something? We all know what church you go to. You've told us at a dozen times or more. So why this sudden urge to set a newbie straight with such language, when his post is no more off topic than many others we've seen? You usually do that far more gently.

My apologies, I was up late, tired, and somewhat suspicious because of the three URLs to off-site websites. Like KS4J I was giving the newbie poster the benefit of the doubt, starting off with a cheerful welcome to the forums, but I'm afraid I did suspect someone with another agenda. I am very sorry about that. I've since looked at other posts and see that this is a legitimate new user who is just a bit unfamiliar with our forum etiquette (and I did offer an extensive response over on another thread). I am very sorry Juho. You are most welcome to share where you're coming from theologically, but as fgh rightly commented (and this was also on my mind) there are anti-Catholics here (I'm not one of them!) and you could be walking into a minefield by sharing so openly when you're brand new here. Best to get to know the feel of the place first before telling those sorts of details. And as I see on the other thread, your position is even farther afield from mainstream Logos users than the traditional Catholic church, so you probably aren't going to find Logos willing to do research for you to find books that would be just right for you that they can publish. They are a business and as such need to produce products that will have a large enough market to make it worth their effort. Yours seems a very tiny niche market, I'm afraid.

MJ. Smith

There is a legal, discreet link on my signature line that may be of interest.

Steve Ray

Steve Ray here. Thanks for your kind words. I am a daily Logos user. My Study Guide on St. John's Gospel was written using Logos! I will help in any way possible to get my books on Logos so that I myself have better access to them :-)

fgh

I will help in any way possible to get my books on Logos

Nice to hear. After Mick's post, I looked closer at the Amazon page and decided I too definitely want 'St John' in Logos.

so that I myself have better access to them :-)

Haven't you made them into Personal Books? Unlike the rest of us, you've got the electronic files. And no copyright problem. [:)]

Dean J

Steve Ray here. Thanks for your kind words. I am a daily Logos user. My Study Guide on St. John's Gospel was written using Logos! I will help in any way possible to get my books on Logos so that I myself have better access to them :-)

As a conservative Protestant I would love to see the Commentary on John available in my Logos library.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

I will help in any way possible to get my books on Logos so that I myself have better access to them :-)

One idea is contacting Logos Product Suggestions => http://www.logos.com/about/contact

Keep Smiling [:)]

fgh

These are the books Steve Ray has written:

Crossing the Tiber

Upon This Rock: St. Peter and the Primacy of Rome in Scripture and the Early Church (Modern Apologetics Library)

St. John's Gospel: A Bible Study Guide and Commentary

(...)

You discussion intrigued me to have a look into the "St John's Gospel" bible study. Wow - from the Look-into pages at Amazon I couldn't refrain from buying it as a kindle version. Somehow when I read "bible study" I think of small-group material (Navigator's or Serendipidy - a bit text, some questions and much room for answers) - this is a 450+ pages book and the one star missing from the single non-five rating on Amazon is because it doesn't include the text itself!

This is heavily cross-referenced, especially to the CCC, but also to some of the "usual suspects" - from the bibliography it could as well be evangelical - so please don't do it in Vyrso. I promise I'll buy it in Logos format!

Time to keep your promise: Steve Ray Collection (2 vols.).[:)]

EDIT: I just noticed: the papacy book's got an endorsement by Cardinal Schönborn. Given that Schönborn is a student of Joseph Ratzinger's, and probably on the top 10, or at least top 20, list to become new pope, I'd say that's an endorsement of some weight... [:)]

NB.Mick

Time to keep your promise: Steve Ray Collection (2 vols.).

Thanks for pointing it out, I might have missed it - I'm in.

We need some more buyers to put this into development, though...