Doing a word search in the NA27

Let me start by saying that I love the ease of Logos. Except when it comes to searching through the Greek. And I'm sure there is an easy answer that I am overlooking. So hopefully I can find it here.

I'm a pastor and I have actually translated the New Testament on my own (even before I had access to Logos!). So I am very familiar with the Greek. Thus, I often want to do word searches. So how do I do it?

For example. Let's say I want to search for the word "staurow" (This is the verb that means to crucify) What if I want to find all the places that it appears? [In the Greek it is σταυρόω] Of course, since that is the rot word and not the declined form, I can't just simply ask Logos to search the NA27 (Nestle Aland Greek text) for σταυρόω. If I do that, I get 0 results. Sure I can look up the word "crucify." But that seems less helpful. After all, then I am depending upon the translation and the translators.

As a counter example, if I want to look up the word love and I want just the brotherly love, then I would want to just find the words rooted in philo while excluding agape and eros. So it would be much more helpful to be able to do that kind of search in the Greek rather than have to look up "love" in English and then self-exclude all the references to love that are not philo. In fact, this appears to be a great example because if I search for "love" in the NA27 it seems as though I only come up with the references for agape and none fo the references for eros or philo.

Help please? Have I even made myself clear?

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Robert Wazlavek

So you're asking how to search for a specific Greek or Hebrew word?

Use the formula "g:[transliteration of Greek word]" (don't use the quotes) to look up a specific Greek word. Change the "g" to an "h" if you want to search for a Hebrew word, again, searching with the word's English transliteration. When you do this, it should bring up a drop down menu of words in the biblical language that you may be wanting to search for. Click whichever word you're looking for, and it will replace the formula. Then hit enter. Make sure you choose a word from the list with the mouse before hitting enter. If you just hit enter without choosing a word, a search will be done for the formula instead of the word you want.

A few examples would be -

g:staurow

g:agape

h:chesed

... and so on.

Graham Criddle

Hi John - and welcome to the forums.

If you find the word you want in NA27 and right-click on it you will get a popup menu.

On the right of the menu left-click on the lemma of the word you are interested in.

Then on the left of the menu left-click on search this resource.

Does this give you what you want?

Graham

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/375161#Comment_375161

On the right of the menu left-click on the lemma of the word you are interested in.

The clue is to search for the lemma

Another way is to use Morph Search for the NA27 and type σταυρόω in the box. If it appears with a gloss ("crucify") in a drop-down then select that word and lemma:σταυρόω will be inserted for your search.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

In fact, this appears to be a great example because if I search for "love" in the NA27 it seems as though I only come up with the references for agape and none fo the references for eros or philo.

Personally not able to find a lemma for eros, however, found two for philo (verb and noun):

The Lexham Analytical Lexicon to the Greek New Testament has many more cognates.

Keep Smiling [:)]

John Fraser

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/375160#Comment_375160

Robert,

Thanks for the reply. I can't seem to get this to work. I did what you suggested, and I even get the drop down menu of words. I click the one I'm looking for and get 0 results. So, clearly I am doing something wrong. However, the lemma suggestion suggested below is working great for me, so I've got an avenue to get what I need. I appreciate the input. Thanks so much!

Graham and Dave,

The lemma thing is working great. That's awesome. I appreciate your suggestion.

KS4J:

Yeah, I wasn't sure if eros was in the Greek New Testament or not. It's a Greek term that literally means "
passionate love, with sensual desire and longing. Eros does not have to be sexual in nature. Eros can be interpreted as a love for someone whom you love more than the philia, love of friendship. It can also apply to dating relationships as well as marriage. "

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/375423#Comment_375423

I can't seem to get this to work. I did what you suggested, and I even get the drop down menu of words. I click the one I'm looking for and get 0 results. So, clearly I am doing something wrong.

I suspect that you need to click on the icon at the top left of the panel and select Match All Word Forms.

Philana Crouch

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/375427#Comment_375427

I don't think Eros is used in the New Testament, agape and philos are.

Robert Wazlavek

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/375427#Comment_375427

I can't seem to get this to work. I did what you suggested, and I even get the drop down menu of words. I click the one I'm looking for and get 0 results. So, clearly I am doing something wrong.

I suspect that you need to click on the icon at the top left of the panel and select Match All Word Forms.

That and make sure you hit enter after choosing your word, lol. I don't know if you actually did that or not because you didn't say.