Lewis & Short's

Beloved Amodeo
Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,207 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

All Latin scholars and wannabes,

kindly review this thread: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/50719.aspx and support Lewis and Short's with your bid. I'm in @ $30. Let's get this out of CP! Here's link for Lewis&Short's: http://www.logos.com/product/16014/lewis-and-shorts-latin-dictionary

Thanks

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭

    Beloved is doing his best to help everyone ... latin WAS the lingua franca of Christian writing for what ... maybe a 1000 years or so? But the first 4 centuries were a critical time period for guaging their interpretation of the passages.

    And ALSO remember that L&S does cover the area of your most likely use. The Oxford cut off before you could even begin your scholarly work (time period).

     

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,207 ✭✭✭

    DMB said:

    latin WAS the lingua franca of Christian writing for what ... maybe a 1000 years or so? But the first 4 centuries were a critical time period for guaging their interpretation of the passages.

    And ALSO remember that L&S does cover the area of your most likely use.

    OK,

    I firmly believe that this text is a must have and I will put my money where my mouth is. Everyone @ $24 let's raise our bids to $38 and see if collectively we cannot move this vital resource into production! I'm in at $38 who's with me? [pi] [B][D]

     

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

    International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

    MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.3.2 1TB SSD

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Beloved said:

    I'm in at $38 who's with me? PizzaBeerDrinks

    Are you offering?  [:D]  [;)]

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,207 ✭✭✭

    You're darn toot'in Georgey! Raise your bid. Let's get this product mov'in. [:)]

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

    International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

    MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.3.2 1TB SSD

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Beloved said:


    You're darn toot'in Georgey! Raise your bid. Let's get this product mov'in. Smile


    May I substitute wine for beer or a mixed drink?  [;)]

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,207 ✭✭✭

    How's about sparkling grape juice? Are you in?[:D]

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

    International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

    MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.3.2 1TB SSD

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Beloved said:


    How's about sparkling grape juice? Are you in?Big Smile


    Yuch !  [:P]  I didn't mind grape juice when I was younger and a Fundamentalist, but I don't like grape juice now (or grape jelly).  Of course, I don't like peanut butter and jelly—just peanut butter (crunchy) or just jelly (non-grape).

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,207 ✭✭✭

    Now George you know wine is but the fermented juice of the grape you make yuk. As for PBJ I myself love this combo still. Guess just a big baby. But, beer will certainly be had. Your support would go a long way towards legitimizing my suggesting that forum users take another look. In? [8-|] 

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

    International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

    MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.3.2 1TB SSD

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Beloved said:

    . In? Geeked 

    I've been in since it was first placed on CP.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Beloved said:

    Now George you know wine is but the fermented juice of the grape

    Yes, the process greatly improves the flavor.  Don't be a heretic.  Jesus didn't drink grape juice.  He drank wine (grape juice wouldn't stay unfermented for very long).  Just don't use it to excess.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,207 ✭✭✭

    Sure, a little wine for the bellies sake. Let us not be guilty of straining out the gnat and swallowing the camel. Now, support L&S with your best pitch. [6]

     

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

    International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

    MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.3.2 1TB SSD

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Beloved said:

    Now, support L&S with your best pitch. Devil

    High and tight—brush back pitch.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,207 ✭✭✭

    High and tight—brush back pitch.

    I'm taking that one. Standing square. [H]

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

    International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

    MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.3.2 1TB SSD

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Beloved said:


    High and tight—brush back pitch.

    I'm taking that one. Standing square. Cool


    [:D]

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • james e snow
    james e snow Member Posts: 72 ✭✭

    I'm in.

    Since I have several Latin texts in the library and that single semester of Latin was a long time ago I figure I need all the help I can get.  [:D]

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭


    I'm in.

    Since I have several Latin texts in the library and that single semester of Latin was a long time ago I figure I need all the help I can get.  Big Smile


    I'm in also!            *smile*                                                 Peace to all!                                      and Great Joy in the Lord!

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Butters
    Butters Member Posts: 466 ✭✭

    I'm in - i'd pay way more than $30 or so for this.

    “To love means loving the unlovable.  To forgive means pardoning the unpardonable.  Faith means believing the unbelievable.  Hope means hoping when everything seems hopeless.” ~Chesterton

  • Butters
    Butters Member Posts: 466 ✭✭

    I must say, I'm a little surprised that important works like this - not to mention the OLD - are not assumed to be essential to Logos.  After all, Logos offers so much and so much that is, shall we say, a bit obscure. This is a good thing.  

    However, important dictionaries/lexicons like this are of use to virtually everyone who uses Logos.  To me it's almost akin to putting up a pre-pub bid to see if people want to have access to Greek fonts or not.  

    It is puzzling to me.  

     

     

    “To love means loving the unlovable.  To forgive means pardoning the unpardonable.  Faith means believing the unbelievable.  Hope means hoping when everything seems hopeless.” ~Chesterton

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭

    It's a greek crowd, with a few hebrew stragglers. I haven't seen any 'latin' folks which is curious, given the richness of the writings of the various groups among the church fathers. I HAVE whined about Logos' library short-comings but I have a hard time arguing with some of these core resources being on CP and very little interest. Indeed I finally noticed the 'writing on the wall', and have begun chatting with the 'Medes' next door.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭


    I must say, I'm a little surprised that important works like this - not to mention the OLD - are not assumed to be essential to Logos.  After all, Logos offers so much and so much that is, shall we say, a bit obscure. This is a good thing.  

    However, important dictionaries/lexicons like this are of use to virtually everyone who uses Logos.  To me it's almost akin to putting up a pre-pub bid to see if people want to have access to Greek fonts or not.  

    It is puzzling to me.  

     

     


    It is also puzzling to me.  There are certain works for which there will always be a market (unless they are subsequently replaced by a superior version) such as BDAG, LSJ, Lewis & Short and Crum's Coptic Dictionary.

    Oh my, how could I have omitted BDB and HALOT? 

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Butters
    Butters Member Posts: 466 ✭✭

    DMB said:

    It's a greek crowd, with a few hebrew stragglers. I haven't seen any 'latin' folks which is curious, given the richness of the writings of the various groups among the church fathers. I HAVE whined about Logos' library short-comings but I have a hard time arguing with some of these core resources being on CP and very little interest. Indeed I finally noticed the 'writing on the wall', and have begun chatting with the 'Medes' next door.

    Yes, I have noticed this!

    Maybe it's not my place to say - but if Logos wants to be THE go-to software for Bible study/reading, lexicons like this will be essential for a huge number of potential customers.  Few serious scholars/readers can afford to ignore 1000 years of Church history, etc.  


    • OLD
    • Lewis & Short
    • Niermeyer
    • Forcellini's Lexicon Totius Latinitatis
    • Deferrari's Aquinas Lexicon
    • et cetera!!!

    “To love means loving the unlovable.  To forgive means pardoning the unpardonable.  Faith means believing the unbelievable.  Hope means hoping when everything seems hopeless.” ~Chesterton

  • Butters
    Butters Member Posts: 466 ✭✭


    I must say, I'm a little surprised that important works like this - not to mention the OLD - are not assumed to be essential to Logos.  After all, Logos offers so much and so much that is, shall we say, a bit obscure. This is a good thing.  

    However, important dictionaries/lexicons like this are of use to virtually everyone who uses Logos.  To me it's almost akin to putting up a pre-pub bid to see if people want to have access to Greek fonts or not.  

    It is puzzling to me.  

     

     


    It is also puzzling to me.  There are certain works for which there will always be a market (unless they are subsequently replaced by a superior version) such as BDAG, LSJ, Lewis & Short and Crum's Coptic Dictionary.

    Oh my, how could I have omitted BDB and HALOT? 

    Couldn't agree more.  It's not like these are obscure things relevant to a small minority - especially when one considers potential customers.  

    “To love means loving the unlovable.  To forgive means pardoning the unpardonable.  Faith means believing the unbelievable.  Hope means hoping when everything seems hopeless.” ~Chesterton

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    I must say, I'm a little surprised that important works like this - not to mention the OLD - are not assumed to be essential to Logos.

    As for the OLD it's a license issue. Logos hasn't been able to contract anything new from Oxford for years now. Hopefully the new relationship with Cambridge will facilitate getting OUP back onboard again. There are so many OUP books that are among the most asked for.

    As for the others, it's simply very smart business sense. Since all books are financed before any real work starts on them, they never risk going broke because of a few serious publishing misjudgements in a row. Which is good for us as well, since we need them in business, or we won't have any Logos the next time we update the OS. Plus the system allows them to try titles they would never dare to publish without it. Which is also good for us.

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