More Facebook integration
I believe it would be easier to get people to use this service if there was more integration with Facebook. People should be able to sign in with facebook and it should post to facebook.
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Or maybe if you could invite your Facebook/Twitter/email friends to join...that would be good, too. And I wouldn't mind stuff posting on FB, etc..., but I'd also like the option to have it not post there.
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Amy Sasser said:
Or maybe if you could invite your Facebook/Twitter/email friends to join...that would be good, too. And I wouldn't mind stuff posting on FB, etc..., but I'd also like the option to have it not post there.
Yes, opting out of Facebook would be good too. I just know that I and many others already have too many social networks on the go. Facebook, G+ and Twitter are actually a bit tedious to me. However, they are a necessary chore for a missionary working Today's world.
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This is the same concern that I have shared. I am not going to push another social network.Sean McIntyre said:I just know that I and many others already have too many social networks
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I guess the plus for me (and the reason why I'm trying to figure it out for a bible study group) is that it is solely geared for Christians. I don't have to worry about all the 'get your women cheap' adds that Facebook has.
At the moment Faithlife has nowhere near as much to offer as Facebook, etc but I'm sure the designers are reading these forums and taking notes.
[Note to the designers: It would be great if Faithlife could look for key words or verses or something in the conversation and advertise topical books and resources. Logos could also use a thing for viewing the news page of our Faithlife groups in addition to the Community Notes tab. That way we wouldn't have to keep jumping between Logos and Faithlife. Something like the Chat feature in Facebook would be nice.]
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IMO, we need to take scripture to the world; we should not be running away from the world to some 'safe place.'David Beth-El said:I guess the plus for me (and the reason why I'm trying to figure it out for a bible study group) is that it is solely geared for Christians. I don't have to worry about all the 'get your women cheap' adds that Facebook has.
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We will have more Facebook interaction in the future, but our goal isn't to simply complement (or even replace) Facebook -- it's to create a platform for existing Christian communities (churches, classes, small groups, etc.) to communicate and share around the word. So we have joining groups instead of linking friends, and offer strong privacy controls, and (on the way) lots of Bible-specific interaction features that Facebook doesn't offer.
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[Y]Bob Pritchett said:We will have more Facebook interaction in the future
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Forgive me; I have no idea what IMO means and you've taken me way out of context. I'm an evangelist; I don't run from the world! But having said that I would enjoy a bible study without ads for porn on the side.
All I was intending to say was that I think Faithlife has promise as a uniquely Christian resource.
No offense was intended.
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Bob Pritchett said:
We will have more Facebook interaction in the future, but our goal isn't to simply complement (or even replace) Facebook -- it's to create a platform for existing Christian communities (churches, classes, small groups, etc.) to communicate and share around the word. So we have joining groups instead of linking friends, and offer strong privacy controls, and (on the way) lots of Bible-specific interaction features that Facebook doesn't offer.
My point is that Facebook already is "a platform for existing Christian communities" and many churches that I know use it. people can use it to interact with both their church community and their wider circle of relationships. Facebook provides a single hub for all of these things which is its strength. By isolating Faithlife, this process feels more fragmented and looks like trying to re-invent the wheel. Foursquare and others grew as social networks precisely because they integrated with facebook from the start. Even something as simple as the ability to login with your facebook account - rather than type in another password - would make people more likely to use it (and yes, people really are that lazy).
I think that faithlife is a good idea and I want to see it succeed but I believe that People are more likely to adopt something that integrates with what they are already using.
For me, as a missionary, sites like facebook are a neccesary evil but having to add yet another social network (notwithstanding that it is focused around Bible Study) in addition to Google plus, twitter, faithbook
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[Y]Sean McIntyre said:My point is that Facebook already is "a platform for existing Christian communities" and many churches that I know use it. people can use it to interact with both their church community and their wider circle of relationships. Facebook provides a single hub for all of these things which is its strength. By isolating Faithlife, this process feels more fragmented and looks like trying to re-invent the wheel. Foursquare and others grew as social networks precisely because they integrated with facebook from the start. Even something as simple as the ability to login with your facebook account - rather than type in another password - would make people more likely to use it (and yes, people really are that lazy).
I think that faithlife is a good idea and I want to see it succeed but I believe that People are more likely to adopt something that integrates with what they are already using.
For me, as a missionary, sites like facebook are a neccesary evil but having to add yet another social network (notwithstanding that it is focused around Bible Study) in addition to Google plus, twitter, faithbook
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David Beth-El said:
Forgive me; I have no idea what IMO means and you've taken me way out of context. I'm an evangelist; I don't run from the world! But having said that I would enjoy a bible study without ads for porn on the side.
All I was intending to say was that I think Faithlife has promise as a uniquely Christian resource.
No offense was intended.
No offense was taken.
Still, I do not believe that I took you out of your context. For me, anytime we setup a "Christian" anything, we are running from the world. I do not shop in Christian book stores, I do not watch Christian TV, I do not listen to Christian radio. For me, these are all examples of running away from the world.
I personally have never seen an ad for pornographic material on Facebook. I have seen many ads for singles / dating sites - (note - some of the singles sites could be for pornography, but I do not know for sure because I never clicked on them). As a matter of fact, I get more ads for pornographic material in my spam folder than anywhere else.
Anyway, I believe that we need to be with the rest of the world so that we know what people are experiencing; not tucked away safe and sound in some cyber convent.
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tom collinge said:
Still, I do not believe that I took you out of your context. For me, anytime we setup a "Christian" anything, we are running from the world. I do not shop in Christian book stores, I do not watch Christian TV, I do not listen to Christian radio. For me, these are all examples of running away from the world.
I personally have never seen an ad for pornographic material on Facebook. I have seen many ads for singles / dating sites - (note - some of the singles sites could be for pornography, but I do not know for sure because I never clicked on them). As a matter of fact, I get more ads for pornographic material in my spam folder than anywhere else.
Anyway, I believe that we need to be with the rest of the world so that we know what people are experiencing; not tucked away safe and sound in some cyber convent.
Tom, having Bible study on Facebook can work, but for some it is like having a Bible class in the middle of downtown. Too many distractions for some, not a problem for others. By the way Christian television is good, just do not make it your only media outlet.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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tom collinge said:
Still, I do not believe that I took you out of your context. For me, anytime we setup a "Christian" anything, we are running from the world. I do not shop in Christian book stores, I do not watch Christian TV, I do not listen to Christian radio. For me, these are all examples of running away from the world.
I personally have never seen an ad for pornographic material on Facebook. I have seen many ads for singles / dating sites - (note - some of the singles sites could be for pornography, but I do not know for sure because I never clicked on them). As a matter of fact, I get more ads for pornographic material in my spam folder than anywhere else.
Anyway, I believe that we need to be with the rest of the world so that we know what people are experiencing; not tucked away safe and sound in some cyber convent.
Tom, I cannot completely agree with you. It is true that whilst we are not "of the world", we must be firmly in it. This of course means being present in every area of society and to be salt and light in the world. However, the Bible reveals many examples where we withdraw as individuals, or as a community to receive refreshing, encouragement or instruction. Jesus withdrew to pray both by himself and also with his closest followers. He also varied his teaching with some being for the crowd and some for a select few. Christian meetings were not always public and some activities were only for the initiated.
My point was a practical one but if people want a "Christian" space on the web where they can learn from and encourage each other before going back out into the "world" to make a difference, then I see nothing wrong in that.
tom collinge said:I do not shop in Christian book stores
A Travel book shop is part of the world, although it does not sell novels and so is a Christian bookshop. They are on the same street as other shops and often become a witness. I personally found faith when visiting a Christian bookshop and the staff were uniquely qualified to witness to me. I don't see the staff of Barnes and Noble offering lost souls advice in the religious section. By the way, you are posting to a forum in a virtualised Christian bookshop. I assume that you are not a Logos customer?!
tom collinge said:I do not watch Christian TV
I might, if it was any good
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Thank you Graham
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Bob, I noticed where your response was written in 2012. Is Faithlife any closer to integration with Facebook? I have a page on Facebook that I have a few subscriber following, because it shares my thoughts derived from my daily devotions. Now that I am using Loos software, I post notes to the Faithlife community on specific verses as I read. I would love to have the ability to push those notes that I have posting to a private Community, to my page on Facebook. Will your integration plans include something like this? Thank you for the great work at Logos/Faithlife! I use the program and/or app every day and look forward to your ongoing improvements! God bless you!
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as far as I can tell, no. I have seen very little progress being made on faithlife.com.
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Ed,
My name is Joel and I am the Faithlife Product Manager at Logos. We intentionally created Faithlife as a place for community to occur around the Word. I am curious, what do you feel Faithlife needs in order for you to use it as your primary place to share your devotional thoughts?
I appreciate your feedback and thoughts!
~ Joel
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Tom,
The home page to Faithlife.com has not been changed in some time, however, we are working on some changes in the future. Progress we have made on Faithlife features can be seen here - https://faithlife.com/whatsnext.
Is there anything in particular that your are looking for in Faithlife?
~ Joel
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I have came to the concussion that I will not use (or ask people in my congregation to use it). We will continue to use facebook. It is what people know and use.Joel Muddamalle said:Tom,
The home page to Faithlife.com has not been changed in some time, however, we are working on some changes in the future. Progress we have made on Faithlife features can be seen here - https://faithlife.com/whatsnext.
Is there anything in particular that your are looking for in Faithlife?
~ Joel
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Maybe cheap women, like Facebook? (I couldn't resist; above in the thread, apparently that's of major interest to one of our members).
More seriously 'ease of use'. I don't know what is in the Bellingham water that prevents the concept 'ease of use'. I'd not recommend Faithlife at church, for the simple reason the women aren't going to 're-learn' unless it's easy. Ditto their hubbies. But I'm a big believer in FaithLife/Logos/Biblia/iOS/Proclaim etc. The larger the grouping the more likely to join .... if it's easy to use.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Joel, I believe the primary thing would be that Facebook has such a large drawing. All of my friends are already on Facebook. To try and redirect them now to my Nuggets community on Faithlife would probably not be very attractive to them. People dislike additional logins, and they are very afraid of new site locations. I will try a link on my Facebook to see if I can get some of them to visit, and possibly subscribe. I was using WordPress and I had it automatically pushing a brief intro of my devotionals to Facebook, and when the user clicked 'More' they would be taken to Wordpress for the full devotional. I was hoping that something would be available like this in Faithlife. Perhaps ideas like mine and many others that I see in the forum will help you decide on the best course of action to help Faithlife even more successful as a tool for Christians to share the gospel! God bless!
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David Beth-El said:
I don't have to worry about all the 'get your women cheap' adds that Facebook has.
Amen to that!
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Eric Seelye said:David Beth-El said:
I don't have to worry about all the 'get your women cheap' adds that Facebook has.
Amen to that!
Amen from me also - on facebook - I get mail order bride spam from most every non-western country I've been to. Not to mention the untold hoards of singles sites and so forth. All things I don't want to click on. My solution was to install ad block for firefox. Fixed nearly all my problems with ads.
Ed Algreen said:Joel, I believe the primary thing would be that Facebook has such a large drawing. All of my friends are already on Facebook. To try and redirect them now to my Nuggets community on Faithlife would probably not be very attractive to them. People dislike additional logins, and they are very afraid of new site locations. I will try a link on my Facebook to see if I can get some of them to visit, and possibly subscribe. I was using WordPress and I had it automatically pushing a brief intro of my devotionals to Facebook, and when the user clicked 'More' they would be taken to Wordpress for the full devotional. I was hoping that something would be available like this in Faithlife. Perhaps ideas like mine and many others that I see in the forum will help you decide on the best course of action to help Faithlife even more successful as a tool for Christians to share the gospel! God bless!
(emphasis mine)Me too!
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