Luther's Works as a Series
I noticed that when I try to prioritize my resources I have to pull the volumes of Luther's Works over to the priority list one volume at a time. For other collections I only need to pull over one volume and the whole collection is added to the list.
I know that Luther's Works isn't purely a commentary set, but so much of it is commentary material that it would be nice to be able to either (1) setup Luther's Works as a whole collection or (2) allow prioritization of resources based on collections/tags.
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John Eggen said:
I noticed that when I try to prioritize my resources I have to pull the volumes of Luther's Works over to the priority list one volume at a time. For other collections I only need to pull over one volume and the whole collection is added to the list.
I know that Luther's Works isn't purely a commentary set, but so much of it is commentary material that it would be nice to be able to either (1) setup Luther's Works as a whole collection or (2) allow prioritization of resources based on collections/tags.
I would love to be able to prioritise the whole series. So Yes.
Ted
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Here is one more vote for Luther's Works as a Series.
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I'll add my vote as well.
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ditto
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Yes please. I had tried this a while ago and manually had to add my favorite volumes. Way better to have these automatically added as a series.
Jacob Hantla
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I also would like this to be added as a series/collection instead of individually.
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Agreed, but at the least, can we get the subtitle to each volume (e.g. Luther's Works Vol. 1 Lectures on Genesis Ch. 1-5) in the Library title?
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SamWellumson said:
Agreed, but at the least, can we get the subtitle to each volume (e.g. Luther's Works Vol. 1 Lectures on Genesis Ch. 1-5) in the Library title?
I would like them to do this for us, but the good news in Logos 4 is that you can rename your resources yourself. I made a quick and very poorly done video on how to do it for Luther's Works: http://screencast.com/t/YTk2MjQ0NDM
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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And on my last post, you'll notice in the video that you don't actually have to open each resource to get the subtitle. If you look under the bibliographic reference in the Library window, it includes the subtitle for easy renaming.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Jacob Hantla said:
And on my last post, you'll notice in the video that you don't actually have to open each resource to get the subtitle. If you look under the bibliographic reference in the Library window, it includes the subtitle for easy renaming.
Jacob,
Thank you so much for this!!! I have just finished renaming my Luther's Works, whose lack of subtitles always frustrated me in Libronix 3.
Tom
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Thanks for the tip Jacob. If these resources are updated though do they revert to the original title or is L4 smart enough to keep the customized title for the updated resource?
It seems like it would be a simple update to make Luther's Works into a collection for us. Hopefully it can happen.
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John Eggen said:
It seems like it would be a simple update to make Luther's Works into a collection for us. Hopefully it can happen.
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I am not perfectly clear on what you are wanting to do. You can make a collection out of Luther's Works. You can also search for them, to prioritize.
Here's how I am doing it. Hope this is what you are needing.
When you have the collection screen open, you select new. I titled mine, "Luther's Works". Then in the box that says "starts with", I typed this phrase title:Luther's Works In other words, the word TITLE, a colon, and the word LUTHER'S WORKS. This tells the collection to look for EVERYTHING that has "Luther's Works" in the title. When you open the list of books and are trying to prioritize, in the FIND box, type title:Luther's Works and it will do the same.
Now I have two collections: the Luther's Works collection with 55 books. I also have a Lutheran Collection, which has ALL books that have the word "Luther" in the title, so I get "A Lutheran Exposition", "the Lutheran Confessions", "Luther Bibel" and others.
Dan
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John Eggen said:
It seems like it would be a simple update to make Luther's Works into a collection for us. Hopefully it can happen.
John-
I am not perfectly clear on what you are wanting to do. You can make a collection out of Luther's Works. You can also search for them, to prioritize.
Here's how I am doing it. Hope this is what you are needing.
When you have the collection screen open, you select new. I titled mine, "Luther's Works". Then in the box that says "starts with", I typed this phrase title:Luther's Works In other words, the word TITLE, a colon, and the word LUTHER'S WORKS. This tells the collection to look for EVERYTHING that has "Luther's Works" in the title. When you open the list of books and are trying to prioritize, in the FIND box, type title:Luther's Works and it will do the same.
Now I have two collections: the Luther's Works collection with 55 books. I also have a Lutheran Collection, which has ALL books that have the word "Luther" in the title, so I get "A Lutheran Exposition", "the Lutheran Confessions", "Luther Bibel" and others.
Dan
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A collection is helpful (I have one setup) but I am looking specifically to have Luther's Works setup as a series. Volumes that are listed properly in a series allows the user to prioritize the entire series. For example search for a commentary that has volumes in a series. You can then right click on that volume and select "Prioritize Volume" or "Prioritize Series." Creation a collection does not allow you to prioritize the whole collection, at least as far as I know.
So the specific request to Logos is to configure Luther's Works as a series. Seems like it would make sense since the books are listed in volumes, which suggests that they all belong together as a series.
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Hi John, I am not sure I understand what advantage you hope will come from having LW prioritized. I don't see the connection you are making between LW and a commentary series like NIC. the former contains a mix of biography, commentary and theology. The latter is a seris of volumes each corresponding and tagged for a specific book of the Bible. I am sure you are aware that LW are not versified and do not work the same as a commentary set like NIC. What then is your goal in prioritizing LW? Thanks :-)
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Joe Miller said:
Looks like a lot of folks echo that desie, so am I missing how LW is tagged? maybe I did not realize it was tagged to work like a commentary. Does anyone know which volues are versified?
The commentary editions are versified and do appear in passage guides.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Jacob Hantla said:SamWellumson said:
Agreed, but at the least, can we get the subtitle to each volume (e.g. Luther's Works Vol. 1 Lectures on Genesis Ch. 1-5) in the Library title?
I would like them to do this for us, but the good news in Logos 4 is that you can rename your resources yourself. I made a quick and very poorly done video on how to do it for Luther's Works: http://screencast.com/t/YTk2MjQ0NDM
Thanks for doing that video, Jacob. I've added it to the list of video tutorials on the wiki.
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I guess I never looked close enough at my LW to see they were versified. of the 50 volumes, how many would show up in the PG? Isn't prioritizing the whole series overkill, or would it be simpler to prioritize the couple that are versified? I plead ignorance on this info, so thanks for educating me with some specifics :-)
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Joe Miller said:
I guess I never looked close enough at my LW to see they were versified. of the 50 volumes, how many would show up in the PG? Isn't prioritizing the whole series overkill, or would it be simpler to prioritize the couple that are versified? I plead ignorance on this info, so thanks for educating me with some specifics :-)
Look at the listing of what's in all the volumes on Logos's website. It looks like volumes 1-29 are commentaries and thus all of those would be versified. I don't have the set yet, because it's CD-ROM only and I've been hoping they'd make it downloadable, but I might just have to cave in and buy it with all you discussing it and making me curious.
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Joe Miller said:
In this case, prioritizing volumes 1-29 would be beneficial, but prioritizing 30-50 would serve no purpose right?
Agreed. Perhaps vols. 1-29 should be part of a series which is called Luther's Commentaries, which would be included within Luther's Works. Just like Calvin's Commentaries are included in the Calvin 500 Collection. But since Luther's Works is available on CD-ROM only, I'm guessing it is published by one of their publishing partners (it doesn't say who on the product page; I wish they would say when there's a third party publisher involved), and Logos would not be able to assert this organization rule on the contents of it.
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I agree with the discussion of the series being for Luther's Commentaries (Vol 1-29). These are where the benefit of prioritization would happen.
Looking at the cover provides a good idea of who the 3rd party might be... Fortress Press & Concordia House Publishing.
Luther's Works is what got me started with Logos. First it was just this, then upgraded to the Scholar's package and upgraded to Platinum with L4. Grown my library with Logos a lot since these first 55 volumes.
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John Eggen said:
Looking at the cover provides a good idea of who the 3rd party might be... Fortress Press & Concordia House Publishing.
Thanks. I don't own the product so I couldn't look at the cover (and the image of it is too tiny on Logos's product page), but of course it make sense that it would be Augsburg Fortress Press & Concordia House, being Luther, after all. [:)]
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Just to be on the safe side here - it is volumes 1-30 that are commentaries, not just up to 29.
Volume 30 includes 1 & 2 Peter, Jude and 1 John and is versified.
There may be a slight hitch, though, if these were to be made a series. Commentary series typically have only one section on each chapter/verse of the Bible. There are two sets of Lectures on Galatians. Volume 26 contains lectures from 1535 covering Galatians 1-4. Volume 27 contains the 1535 lectures covering Galatians 5-6, and the 1519 lectures covering the whole book.
In testing out the reference Galatians 5:3 in that volume 27 (which contains lectures containing commentary on that verse from both years), it jumps to the 1519 lectures. If I am in the section from 1535, all I am seeing is volume and page number (Volume 27, page 12). I don't see any way to refer to it by verse.
If this was to be put in series, it would be great if it could somehow tag both sections in Volume 27 by verse. I have a suspicion that the system is not designed that way (would it be the same as having two page number 15?). My preferred option if only one is tagged would be to have the continuation of 1535 tagged for verses, and the older lectures changed to page numbers. That way there would be some uniformity and continuation.
Tom
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Additional possible hitches in series-izing Luther's Works, also attributable to more than one section dealing with the same chapter/verses.
Volume 25 on Romans contains a front section of glosses (all versified) and a back section more like commentary (not versified). This would probably be best switched around for more beneficial use of this volume in series.
Volumes 10-11 are commentary on the Psalms up to 126 (all versified).
However, volumes 12-14 contain commentary on selected Psalms (versified) - which conflicts with the volume 10-11 material. Doing a link with Bible in Logos 3 (after setting up vols 1-30 as SRA there) shows the volume 10-11 material, not the 12-14, although after taking my Bible to Psalm 147 in volume 14 (not in 11), then going to Psalm 118 in my Bible (in both vols.11 and 14) the volume 14 info was displayed.
As much as I like the idea of having them as a series - I suspect that it won't work smoothly, and they are probably better off being set up as a collection, unless duplicate sections were "de-versified", which probably hurts the search function.
Tom
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