Bug: Imported "Names of God" Word Lists

Dave Hooton
Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

Here are the L3 Word Lists

5277.Names of God.zip

1. Names of God Aramaic

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It appears that the words/homonyms are adapted to the Andersen-Forbes morphology, the issues are

#1 - homonym should be 5 for "God"

#4 - wrong lemma (should be עִלָּי DBLA 10546)

#9 - lemma is DBLA 10723 but A-F only recognises שׁמים (Heaven) from the source in Dan 4:23. An awkward one?

2. Names of God Hebrew

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#3 should be אֲדֹנָי DBLH 151. The adaptation to A-F doesn't give me what I intended from Gen 15.2; 18:27 whereas אדן:1 does; the compound lemma gives restricted search results!

Dave
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Windows 11 & Android 13

Comments

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,954

    Logos 4 Word Lists are much more like LDLS3 Vocabulary Lists than Word Lists (in that they're oriented towards storing lists of lemmas, not just words). However, it does look like the "import" command is needlessly coercing LDLS3 words into Logos 4 lemmas (even though it doesn't have enough information to do that properly).

    Beta 2 will import this Word List as follows; does that look acceptable as an import of your LDLS3 data?

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    Logos 4 Word Lists are much more like LDLS3 Vocabulary Lists than Word Lists (in that they're oriented towards storing lists of lemmas, not just words).

    I had assumed that Word Lists would be used in searches, as used in Logos3 Graphical Query. Therefore the lemma needed to be as close as L4 could provide. The usage needs to be clarified, but why only have a command to import word lists if they will also serve as vocabulary lists?

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    Beta 2 will import this Word List as follows; does that look acceptable as an import of your LDLS3 data?

    In L3:-

    Word Lists primarily contain manuscript words (from Add Bible Passage), but some of mine mine contain lemmas for searching

    Vocabulary Lists primarily contain Lemmas (from Add Bible Passage)

    Examples generated as above from the same passage in LGNTI:

    7317.Matt 1-11-12.zip

    6825.Matt 1-11-12W.zip

     

    When imported to L4:-

    Word Lists are treated as containing Lemmas

    Vocabulary Lists are treated as containing manuscript (Display) words

    So there are problems with Display & Gloss words.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    When imported to L4:-

    Word Lists are treated as containing Lemmas

    Vocabulary Lists are treated as containing manuscript (Display) words

    So there are problems with Display & Gloss words.

    Although Beta 2 overcomes some of the problems, I'm not sure what to make of a conversion that treats both types of L3 Lists the same. Consider ἀδελφός (lemma) imported from an L3 Vocab List:-

       Lemma      Display    Count   Gloss

                        ἀδελφός     1          brother

    If I enter that as a lemma in L4:-

      ἀδελφός      brother       1         brother

    But ἀδελφοὺς (manuscript) from L3 Word List:-

                        ἀδελφοὺς   1

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

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