We had a storm here last night. Despite the fact that I am connected to a UPS, my computer wouldn't work afterwards. Don't take chances; back up your files. I'm now restoring all of my programs, etc What a job !
I've lived in the countryside, with a lot of iron ore in the ground. I tend to disconnect things when lightening comes too close. (Besides backups on site and in the bank.)
Hope you get everything up and running again.
Mac OS X 10.5 and above has TimeMachine which will backup everything every hour. Complete automatic restore takes less than an hour. Sorry, George, sometimes I just cannot help myself. Will now go and chastise myself for smugness [:D]
Anyway, hope you get it all up and working soon.
I'm making good progress, but I hate to need to do it.
Mac OS X 10.5 and above has TimeMachine which will backup everything every hour. Complete automatic restore takes less than an hour.
Of course, if lightening takes out the computer, it's quite likely to take out the external HD as well...[;)][:(]
Hence the second copy in the bank vault. Not quite up to date, and not always accessible, but at least safe from both natural disasters, hackers and thieves.[:)]
George; My prayers are for the safe return of your data. I've seen this all to often. UPS, Whole House Surge Protection, multiple levels of surge protectors, and the effects of that bolt of lightning seems to find it's way to the equipment anyway. Most likely it was very close to your residence and probably have taken out other devices also.. I always recommend that a full backup be performed once per day, and that a data backup be performed multiple times per day on an offline medium such as a flash drive or external usb hard drive. If you are running a network, there will be a different method but same principle. The key is for the backup to be offline once performed. This protects the backed up data from online threats such as spikes traveling through cables (Tel, Net, and Elect.). As an IT professional with an electronics background, I am comfortable with equipment but do not trust any of it enough to have one system with all. That said, I have redundant copies of important data on the network, my desktop, each of my laptops, and on usb external drives JUST IN CASE. The programs can be easily replaced (although time consuming), but the data is unique. [:)]
Mac OS X 10.5 and above has TimeMachine which will backup everything every hour. Complete automatic restore takes less than an hour. Of course, if lightening takes out the computer, it's quite likely to take out the external HD as well... Hence the second copy in the bank vault. Not quite up to date, and not always accessible, but at least safe from both natural disasters, hackers and thieves.
Of course, if lightening takes out the computer, it's quite likely to take out the external HD as well...
Hence the second copy in the bank vault. Not quite up to date, and not always accessible, but at least safe from both natural disasters, hackers and thieves.
Agreed. The external HDD would need to be offline and disconnected for it to be a viable solution in this case. Offsite (the bank vault) is a very good solution (and a standard practice in many organizations), however, often times, its the mid day backup of critical files to something like a flash drive that becomes crucial in the time of need. [:D]
Most computer repair places can get all or nearly all the data off of a damaged drive (most of the time). I've had to do this more than once. I was very pleased with the results.
You might want to call around and find if there are any near you that offer that service.
Despite the fact that I am connected to a UPS, my computer wouldn't work afterwards. Don't take chances; back up your files. I'm now restoring all of my programs, etc What a job !
So sorry to hear this my friend. I guess you now realize you must disconnect your sensitive appliances at the power source!
I use one of those nationally advertised online back up programs. Very helpful.
Also do my own local backup on portable hard drive.
In addition to TimeMachine, I keep three up-to-date clones of my internal hard drive (one kept at work, one at home, and one that I travel with). In addition to rapidly restoring a new hard drive / computer, one can boot-up and run his Mac from a cloned external HD in the event of an internal drive failure.
Update:
I have restored many of the programs on my computer but still have much to do. The Logos 4 download finally finished after I fell asleep and was waiting for me on my desktop this AM. I must say that, other than the unpleasant necessity of going through the downloading, this was about as pleasant a re-install as could be possible: All of my resources and notes were there (gracias a dios) and my preferred bibles (BHS 4.2 and NA27) were still my favorites. Even the books I'm reading opened to the proper pages. Thank you Logos.
Further update:
Since reinstalling L4 I have experienced repeated crashes. Log files attached.
1122.Logos4Crash.txt
8446.Logos4Error.log
Bump
What makes you think Logos will notice a crash report in a General thread called "BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP"? Start a new thread in the Windows forum!
What I was hopiing for is that one of our resident gurus would notice it and take a look at the logs.
What makes you think Logos will notice a crash report in a General thread called "BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP"? Start a new thread in the Windows forum! What I was hopiing for is that one of our resident gurus would notice it and take a look at the logs.
Hi George; If you haven't already done so, it may be best to email Logos Tech Support directly on this one. I would like to help, but don't know enough about Logos to comment on that problem.
Hi George; If you haven't already done so, it may be best to email Logos Tech Support directly on this one
Done
George, I've seen this one before.
I believe the same steps apply:
orge, I've seen this one before. I believe the same steps apply:
orge, I've seen this one before.
The preliminary results indicate that you may well be correct. I'll keep you informed.
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The fix seems to be holding. By now it would usually have crashed (It takes a minute or two). Lots of grass (That's a mutilation of muchas gracias), TC, my friend.
Sounds to me Brother that you may need to invest in an external HD, one that has enough gigs on it that you can ‘clone’ u’r computer. Then that reload process will just be a matter of connecting a usb cable and clone back to the pc/lt…..
Mine was well worth the cost.
Sounds to me Brother that you may need to invest in an external HD, one that has enough gigs on it that you can ‘clone’ u’r computer. Then that reload process will just be a matter of connecting a usb cable and clone back to the pc/lt….. Mine was well worth the cost.
I do have a 500 gig external HD which should probably be sufficient since you can't simply copy the programs back without installing them. Now if I can only find where that cable went [*-)].
Final update unless something further happens. To quote Browning's "Pippa Passes" (adapted)
or, it will hopefully be following the election or we're in deep do-do (or is that "due, due"?).
Hi George,
To help guard against LONG software reinstallations there are programs that'll clone your disc image so that if you need to replace it (with same size) you could copy the image over. Ghostdisk (I think that was its name) was an old one that did that...
I've taken a different tack. So long as I don't have to download & reindex resources, I figure an on-line b/u is sufficient... and Dave Hootons 2nd installation procedure in the Wiki can help with that. I purchased a network hard drive that had background b/u software (Mimeo) that watches ALL files I've set it to watch (for Logos, selected from those in Dave's b/u procedure). Any time one of those files changes, it backs them up in the background. I don't let that drive talk to the external internet (though it could), so I'm happy to report that when I take my laptop to work (it's my work & home laptop---simplified a lot when I consolidated onto this machine), the s/w just makes a list of stuff to back up & does it again automatically when I connect.
After setting it up, I don't have to do anything for backups. They just happen.
Mimeo's settings can be for either files or directories.... It came free with a Winchester Digital Mybook World... you can add nearly as much storage as you like to them via USB drives afterwards. Mine has 2Tb, & every computer in our house has access to it & can back up to it the same way. (That's why I got a NETWORK attached hard drive drive.)
Blessings to you!
Even though the long (full day+) reinstallation's can be painful - I prefer them to a certain extent for a few reasons.
Chief among them is that I change my habits over time and the software utilities that I used to use, I may no longer use. This results in an inevitable backlog of installed/uninstalled/ data detritus that must needs be cleaned up from time to time. Win7 is still better than the former itterations at cleaning up after itself, but I have never yet found more than a handfull of utilities that have come with me through the years.
Now then I SHOULD create a clone of Win+Logos+My Office Suite of choice and then install on top of that, but I just never have done so.
there are programs that'll clone
Windows (Windows 7 and Vista, don't know about XP) has a built in backup utility that will do a full image backup. You use the install dvd (or a bootable windows install thumb drive) and select the restore utility to restore a hard disk. I believe the Professional versions also let you restore individual files from a full image backup (it also allows incremental backups of selected directories but this would be separate from the image backup). It will also restore a full image backup to a larger disk.
I had read this thread at the start but only just caught up to your problem. Looks like you got the needed advice/fix but note that I don't read the General forum to the same depth as the special Windows forums.
I do have a 500 gig external HD which should probably be sufficient since you can't simply copy the programs back without installing them. Now if I can only find where that cable went .
Well yes and no. Apricorn makes a package deal where u can get a quoted size HD in a case w/cable and a cd that starts the process from 'boot'. It actually does a clone of the computer so there is no 're-install' of programs.
I used this process when I did beta testing. I would run the beta then when I was tired of it I would clone back to the way the system was before i got the beta. It worked everytime. there would never be any trace that I had had the beta on the system ....... anywho....
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