Please consider adding Randall Buth’s reconstructed Koine Greek pronunciation to your Greek audio add-in. You can read more about it here: http://www.biblicalgreek.org/grammar/images/PRONSYS1%202005.pdf
John Schwandt who did the other two pronunciations can do this one as well; he actually prefers this pronunciation and it is the one he uses in his Greek course.
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Love Randall Buth! I have both of his Living Greek and Hebrew courses. Fantastic.
Great idea! [Y]
Spoke with John Schwandt yesterday and I definitely is willing to do this! With the tools Logos provided him it only takes about two days work to get the audio recorded, so the cost of recording the audio is very minimal. I have no idea what it would cost Logos to actually add these audio files to the present add-on, but if it is not too much I would hope Logos would consider adding this option.
To actually hear the Greek text as the original authors did is not only cool, but it helps in understanding the text better because you can hear the poetic beauty of the text.
If you would at all be interested in this please give this a [Y] so Logos can see that there is an interest.
Spoke with John Schwandt yesterday and I definitely is willing to do this! With the tools Logos provided him it only takes about two days work to get the audio recorded, so the cost of recording the audio is very minimal. I have no idea what it would cost Logos to actually add these audio files to the present add-on, but if it is not too much I would hope Logos would consider adding this option. To actually hear the Greek text as the original authors did is not only cool, but it helps in understanding the text better because you can hear the poetic beauty of the text. If you would at all be interested in this please give this a so Logos can see that there is an interest.
If you would at all be interested in this please give this a so Logos can see that there is an interest.
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Yes please!
Why Use a Koiné Pronunciation?
A phonemic Koiné results in a dialect in which the user will appreciate the sounds and writings of the first three Christian centuries in a manner in which the original audiences would have perceived them. ἡ κοινὴ προφορά was their system. It provides an additional perspective on word choices by an author. Assonance, rhyme, and avoidance of ambiguity become clearer.
Pronunciation may only become an issue when someone wants to invest the time and energy to become truly fluent in the language, able to think, to listen and to read at normal conversational speeds. After such work would the student like to end up feeling like and sounding somewhat Greek? Hopefully. For those coming from a different system, a relatively small change at the beginning of the renewal effort is worthwhile. Additionally, the phonemic Koiné is close enough to Modern Greek so that Greek speakers accept it as ‘something Greek’ and ‘non-offensive’, even if not the same dialect.
copied from http://www.biblicallanguagecenter.com/koine-greek-pronunciation/
Bumping this up. Those of you who are not familiar with Buth's work should check it out. Even if you don't want to invest the time in learning to pronounce Koine Greek as it was really spoken would benifit from being aware of how the NT actually sounded to the original hearers. An add-on would be a painless way to do this.
Buth's system is how I do all my Greek reading out loud, even when I share "Greek words" at church. It was how I said all my prayers when I was in the Orthodox Church. [Y]
[Y] This is still a great idea!
Indeed it is a great idea!
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I was excited about A Daily Dose of Greek until I heard Dr. Plummer's Erasmus pronunciation -- yuk!
Granted there are good readings of using the Erasmus pronunciation, but once you get use to the real way to read Biblical Greek nothing else compares!
It would be a good alternative, if Logos provides it
[Y] I am currently memorizing the Lord's Prayer using Buth's restored Koine pronunciation.
Logos 6 lists something called Greek Audio Pronunciation Dataset (Koine). "Erasmian" and "Modern" are also listed.
What does the "Koine" refer to? Could it be "Restored Koine" (aka "Imperial Koine")?
When Logos went to Logos 5, it allowed users to upgrade the engine without buying new products. Is the same true for Logos 6? And, if it's true, does this Koine Pronunciation dataset come with the free engine?
Yes "Koiné" is "Imperial".
From the product promo pages it looks like this will not be a free upgrade when the free L6 engine come out in Feb. It is helpful to remember that both Books AND Data Sets are resources that Logos sales. The promise of free upgrade for life only applies to the software engine. Each pronunciation is a piece of Data that they had to pay one or more people to prepare.
BTW thanks Logos for listening!
Currently in Logos it says that both the Erasmian and Koine pronunciations were read by Prof. John Schwandt and points to the website. Is this currently the pronunciation of Randall Buth (imperial or reconstituted koine)?
In the store we currently have Benjamin Kantor's books.
I haven't had time to verify that the koine pronunciation of Logos is the reconstituted one, but what little I've heard suggests that it is!
Can anyone confirm this?
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