Which Library do you have and why?
I just purchased the Scholar Library and love it. Just wondering if most of you use the platinum? Should i upgrade?
Thanks
Scott
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I don't own any package at all, and love it
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Scott Tidwell said:
I just purchased the Scholar Library and love it. Just wondering if most of you use the platinum? Should i upgrade?
Thanks
Scott
Scott, it all depends on your needs. I have the platinum and lots more, but am a pastor and have tried to get most of my regular study materials into Logos.
There are some good commentaries in Platinum, but Silver has the New American series. If you know Greek there are some commentaries in Platinum that might make it worthwhile to upgrade.
Perhaps if you tell us more about your goals and use of Logos we can be of more help.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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I have Platinum and think it's great. I got it because I'm a student and it was a bit cheaper than the normal price. It is very useful...If you really wanted it and you weren't a student then maybe wait until December b/c there might be offers on it. That's my two pence.
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Thanks Mark
I have been a pastor for 7 months and have a limited print library. I am just consumed with wanting to learn more of Gods' word each day. The software has really helped in a short period of time. I also enjoy reading the commentaries.
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Scott,
I have Scholar's Silver plus a bunch of other stuff. I'm looking to upgrade to Scholar's Gold because of the OT/NT UBS Handbook series and the NIGTC commentaries. I'm not a pastor but feel a very intense need to upgrade my biblical knowledge level.
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I have Platinum, and much more such as the NICOT/NT and the Ancient Christian Commentary.
But I bought Platinum when it included the Pillar Commentaries and a number of resources that are no longer included. I am not sure I would buy it today. I would probably use that money to purchase some commentary sets that I needed. The Platinum collection is not nearly as valuable today as it was before.
That is just my opinion, and may not apply to you.
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Hi Michael
Michael Childs said:But I bought Platinum when it included the Pillar Commentaries and a number of resources that are no longer included. I am not sure I would buy it today. I would probably use that money to purchase some commentary sets that I needed. The Platinum collection is not nearly as valuable today as it was before.
The Pillar commentaries are still included in Platinum - it was some of the Baker volumes which were dropped.
So I agree it isn't as valuable as it was but just wanted to clarify
Graham
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Scott Tidwell said:
I have been a pastor for 7 months and have a limited print library.
You are making the right move moving to Logos. I had a pretty good print library but as Logos produced more and more of the volumes I valued the most, out they went (sold) and onto my HD they went. Expensive to buy them twice. You won't have to do that.
The NIGTC and the UBS Handbooks are in Platinum. Both are worth having. The Pillar Commentary volumes are almost all very good. Also worth having.
But there are other volumes that are worth considering: The NICOT/NICNT which was recently at a real bargain price. The IVP Essential Reference Collection which Logos hasn't been carrying but is available elsewhere. The BDAG or BDAG/HALOT bundle. HALOT. The Theological Journal libraries. The Yale/Anchor Bible Dictionary. The ISBE, rev. ed. The Zondervan Illustrated Bible Backgrounds Commentary. Limited funds, lots you'd like to have. Logos does have periodic sales, and this Christmas there might be something offered as in Christmases past.
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Bridgeport, CT USA
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And don't forget payment plans if needed!
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Mark Smith has given some good advice.
Personally, I have Scholar's Silver plus some original language tools like BDAG/HALOT, NIDOTTE, Lexham Discourse Greek NT Bundle, next purchase will be Lexham Discourse Hebrew OT bundle within the next 2 weeks. Some other commentary sets are on my wish list - Tyndale, NIVAC, & NICOT/NICNT.
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I have Portfolio because I had the money to do it at the time and I got an absurdly good price on the upgrade. It had a lot of the commentary collections and lexical resources I wanted to get anyway and the bulk price is obviously the way to go. I've supplemented that with many additional purchases. Not a pastor, just a Bible student and writer.
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Platinum includes BDAG
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Scott S said:
Platinum includes BDAG
You are correct. That is another factor in favor of purchasing Platinum.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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I have Platinum plus... picked up all the classic commentaries that''ve made it out of CP so far; in addition, have added numerous other resources--a few Greek/Hebrew, many of the Thomas Nelson ovverings (including WBC), and many other commentary sets.
I'm a full time pastor who also loves to teach Bible via Logos / projector.
Should you upgrade? Maybe... get what you'd use, Examine carefully the content of any upgrade. Which resources would you use? How would you use them? And is the upgrade price point worth the gain?
I've tended to shop for $100-300 upgrades that added LOTS of new resources that I WOULD use. I've passed on many upgrades / sets that were just too rich for my blood (no matter how valuable they'd be). Only once have I spread out the payments. I decided afterwards that if I can't pay cash for them, I don't need them. Blessings on your decision!
Grace & Peace,
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How did I get to Scholar's Silver and not even be a student or even a leader? Good question that took me back about 10 years. First, I am not a leader or Scholar just a simple layperson with basic education and absolutely no higher education. I have Scholar's Silver plus several separate purchases.
Short version: step #1: eBible Deluxe in Logos 2 or 3; Step#2 Logos Leaders; Step #3: Logos Scholars when upgraded to Logos 4; Step #4: Upgrade to Silver for resources that were much cheaper by upgrading rather than buying separate.
Long Version (I hope that I can word this in an intelligible way): I first purchased eBible Deluxe and a few other Libronix (Logos 2 and 3) products after feeling God pulling me back in to fellowship with Him. After leaving the church for several years I felt the necessity to be involved with the denomination in which I had reestablished ties with (as a very young man <baby in Christ> I was excommunicated from my denomination several years earlier due to joining the military- and did not even attempt to live for God for quite a few years afterwards ).
I thought that eBible was pretty cool but really did not use it much. I then invested pretty heavily into another Bible study program which really helped me learn how easy Bible study was on the computer.
Then a Logos sales rep contacted me and explained to me that I really did not have a Logos base package and was willing to help me get one by using a special price. I settled on "Leader's" (even though I am not one). At this point, I was using two programs at once for my studies. I really did not figure out the completeness and functionality of Logos 3, mainly because I was spending more time in the other program. The night that Logos 4 came out, I upgraded to Scholar's using a good discount and this package along with the new easier to use interface (IMHO) really woke me up to the supremacy of Logos. As I grew spiritually and educationally, there were some resources in Scholar's Silver that I really wanted and it made since to upgrade instead of buy those items separately.
So right now, I am using Scholar's Silver and really no more plans to upgrade to Gold or any others. I know that I can get things cheaper by upgrading but have learned that I hide most of resources as well, simply because I have no training in original languages and scholarly materials.
I am building my Anabaptist collections through community pricing and pre-pub. I have bought several other resources during sells as well. During last year's excellent Christmas sale I bought my long awaited BCBC and upgraded the new volumes using my Christmas bonus credit. I am slowly converting my other program's favorite resources over to Logos as well and will probably keep the program up to date but am not buying anymore resources from them. They just are not releasing the types of resources that I am interested in and I can not justify having two copies of everything. Sure the other program has some niceties but I use Logos 95% of the time now and the other about 5% of the time when I just want to do something really quickly and know that I can get my answer quickly.
I know, that was very long and probably does not make sense. My apologies.
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nice explanation buddy ... thanks for this reply....
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I have Platinum plus many other things. The price was painful taking our Eastern European context into account, but I haven't regretted it one single day since I did the upgrade. For me as a pastor and teacher it is one of the most valuable investments I ever done.
My advice would be: do some calculations. Write down the list of commentaries, lexicons and other resources you would really need/like to have and see how much of that is covered by the Platinum. If your list is not covered much and the price of getting those resources as addition to your current Package would be cheaper (which I doubt) do that.
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Graham Criddle said:
Hi Michael
Michael Childs said:But I bought Platinum when it included the Pillar Commentaries and a number of resources that are no longer included. I am not sure I would buy it today. I would probably use that money to purchase some commentary sets that I needed. The Platinum collection is not nearly as valuable today as it was before.
The Pillar commentaries are still included in Platinum - it was some of the Baker volumes which were dropped.
So I agree it isn't as valuable as it was but just wanted to clarify
Graham
Thanks Graham, I should have checked my facts. My memory is getting faulty. Still, as you note, the point is the same, as is my advice.
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Thanks to all the advise. It's very helpful.
Btw what do mean that's not as valuable. Getting $18,000 worth of material for$1,600 seems pretty good to me.
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Scott Tidwell said:
Btw what do mean that's not as valuable. Getting $18,000 worth of material for$1,600 seems pretty good to me.
Examine all the resources included in that price. If you'd by ALL of them, then it's REALLY good. If you'd use ONE of them, $1,600 is pretty pricey. The truth is somewhere in between. You'll use some but not all. Count the cost as being spread ONLY over the ones you'd buy/use. That's your real cost per book.
Grace & Peace,
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Scott Tidwell said:
Btw what do mean that's not as valuable.
1.5 years ago they took out some of the most valued resources, at the request of Baker, but kept the price the same. No, that's not entirely true. Before the change there was a 25% discount due to the launch of L4Mac. Within 2 days they removed both the discount and those books, making people have to pay considerably more to get considerably less.
If you now want to add the books you would then have gotten included for free, you will have to pay many hundred dollars extra.
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To answer your question in the thread title:
"Which library do you have, and why?"
Library = Portfolio and thousands more.
Why? = Because I can exercise my OCD for digital books without being recognized as easily. [H]
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Hi Scott!
I've had platinum since Logos 4 came out and I'm very happy with it. But as platinum lost the Baker resources it's not as valuable any more. And I'm not sure I would have bought it today.
What I did when I upgraded was to see what resources I would value and then see how much I would be willing to pay for each of them. For some of the resources my price was the same as Logos would have charged for them (BDAG) for some it got close (Baker exegetical) others I assigned some value, but not nearly what I would have to pay if I was to buy them at full price (The New American Commentary Series). Most resources I didn't put a price on at all, but I did put a price on "books I will discover" (maybe 30 or 40$) After doing the math I found out Platinum would be a good investment for me. Today I would of course value the resources quite differently than I did at the time, some higher (NAC) and some lower (UBS handbook series). But the point is that one is easily mislead by the size of these collections and setting your own personal value on them may help...
If I "started" at scholars today and was to buy more resources I may have considered buying NICOT/NT and the Essential IVP Reference Collection rather than Platinum. (These regularly are on sale so now is probably not the best time to shop them). These contain the resources I currently value the most of all I own. (Apart from the Bibles of course, and the Greek dictionaries).
Hope you find you get the help you need to make the best possible decision!
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I'm just trying to build resources and have them available for use when I need it.
I got the Platinum and no regrets. Best investment ever and everyday I am inside my logos software reading and researching.
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