NA28 front matter missing

A minor problem, but the Title Page, Foreword and ‘Novi Testamenti Textus’ contents page are blank in NA28 for me. This is in Logos 5.0 SR-4 running under Mountain Lion 10.8.2 on a 15" MacBook Pro with Retina display. The front matter of NA27 is fine, so I’m guessing this is a problem with the resource.
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Daniel Neades said:
The front matter of NA27 is fine, so I’m guessing this is a problem with the resource.
It does exist on my PC:
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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It is present with NA28 in my library (title, foreword, contents), a MacBook running OS X 10.8.2, Logos 5.0 SR-4.
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Daniel Neades said:
A minor problem, but the Title Page, Foreword and ‘Novi Testamenti Textus’ contents page are blank in NA28 for me.
Something else is missing: the icon for parallel resources on the menu bar:
Is indexing currently going on?
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Thanks for the information Mark and Frank. Frank – no, indexing is not going on.
I’m going to try rebuilding the index and see whether that makes any difference.
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Try hiding the resource and then re downloading it.
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Daniel Neades said:
I’m going to try rebuilding the index and see whether that makes any difference.
Rebuilt Bible Index is the command to use, not Rebuild Index which is unnecessary and takes longer.
I doubt it is an indexing issue, but needed to ask. Like Alexander suggested, my next suggestion would be to hide the resource, close and reopen Logos, unhide the resource, close and reopen Logos again and that should trigger and download of a fresh copy. If that doesn't work we'll need a bit more help.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Thanks Alexander and Mark – Ι’ve hidden the resource and it’s disappeared following a restart (yay!), unhidden it, and restarted, updated resources, and it’s not appeared yet (boo!). That’s possibly because I started the index rebuild before I saw Alexander’s or your notes. I’ll wait for that to finish and then try to update resources again.
Thanks again! I’ll let you know how I get on.
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It’s just picked up the the NA28 resource again and, following a restart, it’s back. The front matter is all blank again :-( Of course, indexing is now ongoing...
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Daniel Neades said:
I just get whitespace and the citation if I copy and paste.
Are you using the default display font?
(You still don't have the parallel resources icon, but perhaps after indexing that will show up. Not sure how that works.)
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Good question, Mark. I am indeed using the default font. I tried changing that to something else, but it didn’t make any difference to the blank pages. The font for the front matter of NA27 changed accordingly, however. I’ve changed it back now – still no difference.
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Curious, if after you paste, can you select all and change the font color to make it appear in a word document for example? Almost looks like its appearing in white font on white background. The only other thought is that being a new resource and running on your retina display, the two might not be playing well together. That is, if the reindexing and redownloading don't do it.
Mark Nigro
Pastor/Teacher/Student/Writer
www.calvarychapelbiblecollege.com
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I'm sort of able to reproduce this (on Windows, no less) if I have Bible Text Only specified. Drop down the three interconnected circles and see if you have "Bible Text Only" checked. Uncheck it if you do.
The front matter is not considered 'bible' text, so it is hidden when that visual filter is active.
Rick Brannan
Data Wrangler, Faithlife
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Hi Mark N. – thanks for chiming in! I pasted the text into a text editor, so there would be no style formatting involved, just plain text. There was only whitespace – the right sort of amount to reflect the extent of the selections shown in my screenshot. So, it looks like some white space is being rendered for those NA28 front matter pages in Logos 5, but not the actual text itself. Odd!
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Rick, we have a winner, thank you! I unchecked ‘Bible Text Only’ and the content appeared. So, I guess that’s user error then (which will be good news for the Logos developers).
Thank you so much everyone for your help – they were all great troubleshooting suggestions. People on these forums are fantastically helpful. I’m sorry to have consumed your time with something like this, but grateful for your help :-)
Grace and peace.
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Daniel Neades said:
Rick, we have a winner, thank you!
Yay!!
No worries; thanks for asking and sticking with it.
Rick Brannan
Data Wrangler, Faithlife
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Daniel Neades said:
I’m sorry to have consumed your time with something like this
Well we are learned something else to think of when something like this comes up.
I am still wondering why the parallel resources icon is not found on your menu bar. Please get back to us after indexing is finished and tell us if that has reappeared.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark Smith said:
I am still wondering why the parallel resources icon is not found on your menu bar. Please get back to us after indexing is finished and tell us if that has reappeared.
If I open NA28 from Library, there is no parallel resources icon.
However, if I open NA27 from Library, then use parallel resources to open NA28, it does have parallel resources icon. Odd.
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Frank Hale said:
Odd.
On my PC I get a parallel resources icon on opening from my Library. So, yes, it is curious and it seems like a bug.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark Smith said:
On my PC I get a parallel resources icon on opening from my Library. So, yes, it is curious and it seems like a bug.
It's no bug. You need a reference in the reference box to get a Parallel Resources icon. The Introduction in one Bible isn't considered 'parallel' to the Introduction in another. Scroll down to the actual Bible text, and the icon should appear.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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fgh said:
You need a reference in the reference box to get a Parallel Resources icon.
You are correct. I opened the NA28 and it opened to a reference. Once it does that the parallel resource icon persists even if you navigate back to the title page or forward. You could see that on my screenshot earlier in this thread.
But I just opened the resource without it jumping to a reference and the parallel resources icon was not there.
This has to be one of the first times I have ever opened a Bible without it jumping to a reference I had another Bible open to. Since I am always opening to a saved layout with Bibles, the chance of doing this again is slim. Live and learn.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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[:)] Hi I found the disappearing "Parallel Resource Set" Button.
To make it disappear:
- Go to say Title page, ie. without Bible Milestone tag.
- Close the resource
- Open NA28 again
- Disappeared
To make it re-appear:
- Simple go to anywhere where there is a Bible Milestone tag, simply scroll to mat 1:1 or enter mat 1:1 in the Reference Box
- It appears
[:)]
JK
MacBookPro Retina 15" Late 2013 2.6GHz RAM:16GB SSD:500GB macOS Sierra 10.12.3 | iPhone 7 Plus iOS 10.2.1
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LimJK said:
Hi I found the disappearing "Parallel Resource Set" Button.
Yes that is what fgh was saying in the post above mine.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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I have a thread somewhere where I've reported some real bugs with this button not appearing; that's how I know this so well.[:)] (I've got to check, but I've got a faint memory those issues are still not fixed.)
FYI: the same thing happens if the box is set to page number instead of reference. Page numbers aren't parallel.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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Mark Smith said:
Yes that is what fgh was saying in the post above mine.
Sorry, ... went away from my table ... and I see the 2 posts after I hit the button.
JK
MacBookPro Retina 15" Late 2013 2.6GHz RAM:16GB SSD:500GB macOS Sierra 10.12.3 | iPhone 7 Plus iOS 10.2.1
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