When I select "Biblical" on the timeline, there is nothing before Abraham.
When I select "All", the first entry is 15,000BC as the date of creation.
Does Logos somehow think that folks like Enoch and Noah are not part of Biblical history?
Nothing prior to Abraham can be dated with accuracy without invoking all kinds of controversy, so they probably opted to leave those out.
Ignorance is bliss?
And I will say that even having 15,000 BC as the date of creation is also a controversial statement for those of us who believe that the planet we live on is 4.54 billion years old (or something like 4,539,997,988 BCE).
It's listed as "Creation (Albright)", and refers to Albright's view of when Adam was created, not when the planet was created.
I don't want to discuss the theology but in my experience as I get older time passes quicker. If time had gone this quickly when I was at school I wouldn't have been so bored.
for those of us who believe that the planet we live on is 4.54 billion years old (or something like 4,539,997,988 BCE).
hmmm. reminds me of a "Christian" Atlas I purchased: The Atlas of the BIble and th eHistory of Christianity: ISBN 0564 040169 which is associated with the British and Foreign Bible Society.
On the very first page after the TOC Contents: Second Paragraph "Millions of years ago." What an insult... If people believe that the Bible 'allows' for such a gap, then no wander that some dogs believe that they are Christian 'gays' or allow women pastors. Heck even Catholics affirm that women should not be pastors - and the so called 'bible' only believers (of which I am) think that they can 'allow' just about anything.... (and I kick myself when I am so stupid to allow something out of desire to see another persons view out of continual peer pressure).
the time comes when you need to be mature enough to take a stand. Take it in context or otherwise take it as a pointless fairytale - for the sake of a 'happy' life..
I dont mean to put you in a bad position however. Nor should you feel insulted by my comments. I'm just talking about the topic - and it isn't directed at you.
best regards.
Personally, my interest is in relative dating as opposed to absolute dating.
I recently had a discussion with someone who said that Enoch was alive when Noah was born but when you look at the Bible, Enoch was gone before Noah was born. I would have thought that the timeline would be a quick way to answer such a question but, alas, it was not to be.Personally, i would prefer if the timeline contained a variety of dates from different people who have guesstimated the times, rather than the big cop out of "there is too much controversy, so we will leave it out." As i said, I am much more interested in relative dating than absolute dating.
An incomplete timeline is better than no timeline but the timeline was one of the reasons that I upgraded to Logos 5.
I am disappointed with the incomplete product that they have produced.
Our dog does accept 'sometime before Egyptian history' and also women pastors. But nothing other than these two. Our friend's dog is unbelievably liberal. We don't let our dog bark at him.
Personally, i would prefer if the timeline contained a variety of dates from different people who have guesstimated the times, rather than the big cop out of "there is too much controversy, so we will leave it out." As i said, I am much more interested in relative dating than absolute dating.
The way that they've put it together is to survey a number of Bible dictionaries, and extract the dates from those dictionaries. If the dictionaries don't mention the dates, nor does Logos. So there are a variety of dates for some things, but others are missing altogether - simply because none of the Bible dictionaries actually mention them.
The Bible Facts tool does contain events that aren't mentioned on the timeline, and places them in relation to other events. The event "God takes Enoch" is displayed as prior to "The birth of Noah".
It would be nice if the user could write there his/her own timepoints and events.
Our dog [&] is not a poodle and likes Ken Ham.
As i said, I am much more interested in relative dating than absolute dating.
We hope to continue improving the timeline, and one of the things we'd like to do is find a way to show relative dates/events even when they can't be anchored to a specific date, so you can see a story sequence without having to know (or take a position on) a specific date. In a way this is what the Biblical Events data in Bible Facts does, but without being able to show lifespans, etc.
Yep ... I built into my software the ability to select dating assumptions and re-draw the whole series. This became invaluable with the exodus bounce-around, archaeological estimates, and re-datings of the Egyptian pharoahs. I also built it so you could compare the effect of the assumptions and see where in the text the problems would occur. This also was very useful in comparing Acts with Paul's letters tp visually see the 2-year dating issue.
I like Taxee's comments too: relative & variety.
@Bob
a visual filter per resource used in the timeline should do the trick. Just activate a filter option for that person/event if any two dates do not line up etc. should be easy enough to redraw the svg.
also, i'd even use the basic Ussher's dates. you should be able to get them free from an old public domain bible.
Thanks for the response, Bob.I look forward to this added functionality once it appears.
