My dilemma: RAM or Logos Library

mab
mab Member Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I'm trying to make a decision that could happily be either way. On my wish list is both Logos additions and more RAM for my computer. I could easily spend for the most RAM (currently 4GB and could be 16GB) or get more Logos. Or I could just split it down the middle on both.

It's no big deal, but there's something I'm missing.  My guess is that the RAM would make Logos 5 a lot easier to use with other apps running or a lot of windows open. 

Any ideas?

 

 

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  • SteveF
    SteveF Member Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭

    My guess is that the RAM would make Logos 5 a lot easier to use with other apps running or a lot of windows open. 

    If you are running a 64 bit system your Logos will not use more than 2 gigs, BUT everything else wil have more memory to use and Logos will have access to faster page file etc and more room for storage retrieval from cache - thus speeding up by using less going & toing from Hard Drive.

    Now if you are one of those fortunate souls with a fancy new spiffy Solid State Hard Drive that later item will probably not apply as your HD will be blazing fast.

    Blessings

     

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  • Observation: can spend a lot more on Logos resources than RAM upgrade.  When shopping for RAM, personally check newegg.com and crucial.com

    For Windows 7 on a laptop, currently have 8 GB of RAM; pondering upgrade to 16 GB so have a bookmark for $ 49.99 upgrade and watching newegg.com prices..  Caveat: seems crucial memory is a bit less expensive at newegg.com yet crucial.com has a memory selector tool so can find correct specifications.  Crucial also guarantees their memory to work for a selected model.

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  • Mitchell
    Mitchell Member Posts: 454 ✭✭

    For most folks, RAM gives diminishing returns after 8GB. I have 12 in my iMac but rarely use more than half, and even then it's just because I can (I'll leave things open that I really don't need).

    Just my 2¢.

  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,693 ✭✭✭

    Mitchell said:

    For most folks, RAM gives diminishing returns after 8GB. I have 12 in my iMac but rarely use more than half, and even then it's just because I can (I'll leave things open that I really don't need).

    Just my 2¢.

    I agree.

    Not enough memory is a problem, and slows things down a bunch.  Enough is enough, and more doesn't seem to help.

    I've heard (but haven't tried yet) that the SSD drives will really make Logos fly.  The prices I've seen for black friday sales on SSD drives is encouraging.

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  • Gary Butner, Th.D.
    Gary Butner, Th.D. Member Posts: 483 ✭✭

    I purchased a 240 GB Agility Solid State Hard Drive from MicroCenter as a Black Friday deal for $129. Now installing it and cloning the C drive on my laptop over to the SSD is the problem. 

  • I purchased a 240 GB Agility Solid State Hard Drive from MicroCenter as a Black Friday deal for $129. Now installing it and cloning the C drive on my laptop over to the SSD is the problem.

    Clonezilla could be helpful for cloning disk partition =>  http://www.clonezilla.org/

    Personally planning to add SSD as secondary drive with custom Logos installation.

    Also using a RAM Disk of 512 MB disk for temporary files, which needs periodic deletion of files.

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  • Gary Butner, Th.D.
    Gary Butner, Th.D. Member Posts: 483 ✭✭

    I considered adding SSD as a secondary drive on my laptop, but the OS would still be a bottleneck. That said, thanks for the cloning suggestion. I purchased Acronis, but will save $50 + tax with your suggestion.

  • John
    John Member Posts: 398 ✭✭


    (currently 4GB and could be 16GB) 


    Unless you are doing something very special, you do not need 16GB of RAM. 4GB is enough, and 8GB is more than enough.

    Are you running Windows 7? It has a built-in performance assessment called the Experience index. Go to Computer, right-click, hit properties.

    You will then see under System: rating a number. Clicking to update "experience index" will let you run the assessment.

    If your memory number is already higher than your primary hard disk number, then you will see a bigger performance boost by replacing the hard drive.

    You didnt say if this was a laptop or not. If it is, most laptops come with horribly slow 5400 RPM hard drives. Adding a fast hard drive makes a huge difference.

    If its a laptop, try a Western Digital Scorpio black, 500GB 7200 RPM laptop hard drive. These drives have larger cache and put the OEM drives to shame. $68 at amazon. If you have a newer system with 6.0 Gbit/s Sata interface, then an SSD might make sense for you. A lot more expensive, but huge performance boost. An SSD on 3.0 Gbit/s Sata might be disappointing if you are expecing things to be instant. A combination of upping the RAM to 8GB and a faster drive might be better yet [:)]

     

  • Gary Butner, Th.D.
    Gary Butner, Th.D. Member Posts: 483 ✭✭

    I currently have two 120 GB hard drives in my laptop. I want to clone my C drive onto a 240 GB SSD, and then replace the C drive with the cloned SSD.  Do I need to create partitions on the cloned drive for the OS and restore?

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    I'm trying to make a decision that could happily be either way. On my wish list is both Logos additions and more RAM for my computer. I could easily spend for the most RAM (currently 4GB and could be 16GB) or get more Logos. Or I could just split it down the middle on both.

    I agree with the others. If I was short of cash I wouldn't bother going above 8Gb. If you don't do a lot of multitasking, and don't have thousands of books, you could probably get away with 4Gb. 

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  • John
    John Member Posts: 398 ✭✭


    I currently have two 120 GB hard drives in my laptop. I want to clone my C drive onto a 240 GB SSD, and then replace the C drive with the cloned SSD.  Do I need to create partitions on the cloned drive for the OS and restore?


    You would not do anything to the SSD first. The imaging or cloning software will recreate the boot sector and partitions when it does the copy. You might adjust paritions in Windows afterwards, by stretching your main parition to use the extra available space.

  • David Paul
    David Paul Member Posts: 6,122 ✭✭✭

    Michael, brother...let me say that your predicament has really weighed on my soul. After giving it much thought, I've decided to help bear a share of the burden you are facing. To ease the dilemma you are now in, I will allow you to send me some of the money that has put you in this predicament. In that way, I hope that your vexing options will be reduced and you will be able to move forward with peace of mind.

    Simply contact me and we can make the arrangements. Peace. Btw, no thanks are needed. It's my pleasure to help. [A]

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