Please remember sort column in Library from session to session

I like to view my library sorted by Last Updated. I have to click that column heading so frequently it has really gotten tiresome. There are certainly times I open the Library when I don't care what order it's in because I'm going to filter it anyway, so I don't have to click the Last Updated column heading. But I almost never want to browse through it in alphabetical order, so having that be the default is pointless (for me). Having the alphabetically first resources (all the ones that begin with the number 1) face me every single time I open my Library has gotten really old.

So...

Please remember what column we have our Library sorted by (and which direction it's sorted in) from session to session.

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NB.Mick

Please remember what column we have our Library sorted by (and which direction it's sorted in) from session to session.

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fgh

From BUG and annoyances: Logos' bad memory (first reported Feb 29, [finally] recognized by Logos June 7):

b) Library. When I close down with the Library open, I would wish it opened the way I left off, but currently I can't even make my choices stick in a saved layout. E g yesterday I created a specific Layout to create PB's in. It included the Library sorted by Last Updated and had edition:user in the reference box, so that I would only see the PB's -- but, of course, when I next opened it, both of those settings were gone.

I have created a case for this.

The bad news is, nothing's happened since.[:(] (I too usually want my Library sorted by Last Updated.)

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434167#Comment_434167

Yes Please!

And when I have sorted by Last Updated, I probably don't want the scroll bar stuck perpetually 2/3 of the way down on something--apparently John Bunyan's "The Barren Fig Tree," or something nearby from Oct 1, 2011.

However, Just have to say it one more time, I LOVE Logos 5 [Y]

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434175#Comment_434175

when I have sorted by Last Updated, I probably don't want the scroll bar stuck perpetually 2/3 of the way down on something

Gao,

the library will be at the position of the book that was focused before you sorted. If you had just opened the library, this automatically is the first title in alphanumeric sort. For me this would normally be a biblical manuscript numbered 0162.... Theres an easy workaround: regularly rebuild a PB with a title that is up in the alpha-sorted titles (for me: "# Index of the Early Church Fathers" - note the hash symbol in the title) and it will be high up in alpha-sort as well as in last updated.

Okay, a configurable default sort on open (if it really is so hard to remember the last sort order - as opposed to column width and order etc...) would perhaps be a little bit more convenient. But the workaround does the trick.

Mick

Donnie Hale

Please remember what column we have our Library sorted by (and which direction it's sorted in) from session to session.

Absolutely! And while we're at it, remember the size of the library floating window, too. I only access the Library via Ctrl-L (Windows), and it always comes up in the middle of the screen occupying about 1/2 the screen width and height. My first two steps are to maximize it and then to sort by Last Updated. I wrote 16-bit Windows apps that remembered things like this in the early '90s. Seems like Logos could do this, too.

Donnie

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434229#Comment_434229

Please remember what column we have our Library sorted by (and which direction it's sorted in) from session to session.

Absolutely! And while we're at it, remember the size of the library floating window, too. I only access the Library via Ctrl-L (Windows), and it always comes up in the middle of the screen occupying about 1/2 the screen width and height. My first two steps are to maximize it and then to sort by Last Updated. I wrote 16-bit Windows apps that remembered things like this in the early '90s. Seems like Logos could do this, too.

Donnie

Isn't it really easy enough to simply click on the column you want to sort by and drag the slider to the top? I can think of a few things that would be desireable from a functional standpoint such as WEIGHTS AND MEASURES !!!!!

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434303#Comment_434303

Isn't it really easy enough to simply click on the column you want to sort by

No, it's not, because that column is at the far right, a long way off the screen, and when you've scrolled right, resorted and scrolled back left for the tenth time that day, you are really really tired of it.

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434323#Comment_434323

Isn't it really easy enough to simply click on the column you want to sort by

No, it's not, because that column is at the far right, a long way off the screen, and when you've scrolled right, resorted and scrolled back left for the tenth time that day, you are really really tired of it.

Just grab the corner of the library display and drag it until the column shows. It will stay that way until you restart Logos and you will be able to see that column easily.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434328#Comment_434328

You're so predictable, George. It didn't occur to you that I want that column at the far right? That I do not under any circumstance want that column visible? It has no information that I normally need to see, and the columns that I do need to see don't have enough space as it is, so I'm certainly not going to push them off the screen.

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434355#Comment_434355

You're so predictable, George. It didn't occur to you that I want that column at the far right? That I do not under any circumstance want that column visible? It has no information that I normally need to see, and the columns that I do need to see don't have enough space as it is, so I'm certainly not going to push them off the screen.

It's not required that you show all columns.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434362#Comment_434362

Did you leave out a few words in that sentence?

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434368#Comment_434368

Did you leave out a few words in that sentence?

See the edited version.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434362#Comment_434362

It's not required that you show all columns.

I don't, but what's that got to do with anything? Didn't you read what I wrote? I don't even have enough screen to show the columns I desperately need to see with the width they really need -- and you're telling me to move the Last Updated column, which I don't need to see, left, so that I get even less room for the columns I need??

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434177#Comment_434177

NB.Mick, you're really earning your 'star'. It's a hard row to hoe ... I guess conceivably you have to keep updating the funny-named file?

For me, each time the sort lands me near the bottom (pretty much 10-15 times a day), I am reminded that all the Logos employees (ok .. the ones that use Logos) have to do the same exact thing. Over and over and over.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434394#Comment_434394

NB.Mick, you're really earning your 'star'. It's a hard row to hoe ... I guess conceivably you have to keep updating the funny-named file?

For me, each time the sort lands me near the bottom (pretty much 10-15 times a day), I am reminded that all the Logos employees (ok .. the ones that use Logos) have to do the same exact thing. Over and over and over.

This problem, on the other hand, I don't understand. I'm always at the top after sorting. Do you have a bug on Windows?

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434383#Comment_434383

It's not required that you show all columns.

I don't, but what's that got to do with anything? Didn't you read what I wrote? I don't even have enough screen to show the columns I desperately need to see with the width they really need -- and you're telling me to move the Last Updated column, which I don't need to see, left, so that I get even less room for the columns I need??

What's the problem? Are you afraid you'll break a nail in the process?

Donnie Hale

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434303#Comment_434303

Isn't it really easy enough to simply click on the column you want to sort by and drag the slider to the top? I can think of a few things that would be desireable from a functional standpoint such as WEIGHTS AND MEASURES !!!!!

Weights and Measures will require another data set. In the first day during which Logos begins developing that data set, an intern can write the code to retain the sort and position of the library window *and* have it tested by their QA group. A stretch goal would be to allow sorting on a secondary column.

Donnie

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434177#Comment_434177

when I have sorted by Last Updated, I probably don't want the scroll bar stuck perpetually 2/3 of the way down on something

Gao,

the library will be at the position of the book that was focused before you sorted. If you had just opened the library, this automatically is the first title in alphanumeric sort. For me this would normally be a biblical manuscript numbered 0162.... Theres an easy workaround: regularly rebuild a PB with a title that is up in the alpha-sorted titles (for me: "# Index of the Early Church Fathers" - note the hash symbol in the title) and it will be high up in alpha-sort as well as in last updated.

Okay, a configurable default sort on open (if it really is so hard to remember the last sort order - as opposed to column width and order etc...) would perhaps be a little bit more convenient. But the workaround does the trick.

Mick

That will help! You are a Genius.

And right you are. Upon closer inspection Logos wasn't sorting on Bunyan at all, it was sorting on "0162 from The Text of the Earliest New Testament Greek Manuscripts"

Incidentally I also use PB's as "labels" to separate prioritized resources--such as a books/labels named:

"---------------------Bibles-------------------------"

"----------------Commentaries------------------"

Donnie Hale

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/434533#Comment_434533

Incidentally I also use PB's as "labels" to separate prioritized resources--such as a books/labels named:

"---------------------Bibles-------------------------"

or

"----------------Commentaries------------------"

This is the first means of trying to use this trick in prioritized resources that actually seems reasonable to me. Thanks for passing it on...

Donnie

Sakarias Ingolfsson

Another scenario where this is annoying is when using the find box. Sometimes I know exactly what I want, and I attempt to be quick by using keyboard navigation. This is what I do:

1. Type Ctrl+L to open libary. The libary opens with the cursor in the find box

2. Type e.g. "Message of Matthew", because the book I wish to open is "The Message of Matthew" from "The Bible speaks today" series

3. Then, by a habit I am unable to rid myself of, I press enter. Usually enter commences the search (In almost any peace of software which includes search) but in this case it opens the first search result.

Now the first search result would normally be the best result, i.e. the highest ranked result. This is column one. But Logos automatically sorts by column two, i.e. by name. So even if the correct resource is the highest ranked search result, Logos will still rather open "the Cornerstone bible commentary", because C is higher up in the alphabet than T. And if the Cornerstone commenary is not there to mess up my search, usually some other resource is (E.g. that "You can understand the bible" series)

I know this is a minor issue (microscopic really), but it I just find it sooo annoying.

I guess I just needed to vent that.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/471913#Comment_471913

Sakarias, it's probably better to start a new thread for a new suggestion rather than tacking it onto an old thread; it's likely to be missed by Logos this way.

I too have been annoyed by this behavior you describe, and had to curb myself of the reflex to hit Enter after filtering the Library.

Sakarias Ingolfsson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/472097#Comment_472097

Yeah, you are probably right.

I did not really think of those as seperate issues, but when I think of it, I guess they are. If the sorting column would remain between sessions, the second problem would also be pretty much eliminated for my part as well.

But, that does of course not mean it would work for everyone else as well.

Rosie Perera

I've finally gotten so annoyed by this that I added a new request on UserVoice.

Please go vote for it.

Sakarias Ingolfsson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/512454#Comment_512454

Voted!

Yes, this is exceptionally annoying.

On the bright side, at least Google does not order its search results alphabetically [H]

John Brumett

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/521886#Comment_521886

Years Later. Remembering sort rank between sessions is still an issue. Maybe this is simply my computer. Can anyone else confirm?