REPEATABLE BUG and CRASHES in Documents dropdown
1) Click on Documents.
2) Arrange columns in order Type, Name, Date.
3) Click on heading to sort by Type.
4) The column order switches to Type, Date, Name.
5) Rearrange to Type, Name, Date.
6) Expand the Notes section.
7) Shift-click on heading to sort by Name.
8) The column order again switches to Type, Date, Name.
PLUS: so far every single one of my attempts to do anything at all in the Documents dropdown has ended with a crash within approximately 1-3 minutes.
Logs: 4401.121212, 15.47.zip (No crash log was created.)
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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Hi fgh
Just to advise that I don't get this behaviour (column order switching or crashing) on Windows
Looks like a Mac-specific issue.
Graham
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fgh said:
1) Click on Documents.
2) Arrange columns in order Type, Name, Date.
3) Click on heading to sort by Type.
4) The column order switches to Type, Date, Name.
5) Rearrange to Type, Name, Date.
6) Expand the Notes section.
7) Shift-click on heading to sort by Name.
8) The column order again switches to Type, Date, Name.
PLUS: so far every single one of my attempts to do anything at all in the Documents dropdown has ended with a crash within approximately 1-3 minutes.
Logs: 4401.121212, 15.47.zip (No crash log was created.)
I was able to reproduce the behavior regarding tab/category switching you describe. Regarding the app crashing when in the Documents drop down. Do you have to be actively using the Documents drop down for 1-3 min straight for the crash to occur? What are you doing it it? I'd like to see if I can reproduce the crash
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Just looking at this again and I am seeing something strange - not sure if it is the same as you are seeing, fgh
If I start off with the Handouts section open (it works the same in all sections - it's just easier to see with a few documents) and ordered in ascending alphabetical order of name
I then do a "shift-click" on the Name column and it resorts to be alphabetically descending - which is fine.
However, if I then "shift-click" again on the Name column it sorts by date!
If I keep going it just cycles round.
Graham
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Tommy Ball said:
Regarding the app crashing when in the Documents drop down. Do you have to be actively using the Documents drop down for 1-3 min straight for the crash to occur? What are you doing it it? I'd like to see if I can reproduce the crash
Well, I went there to open a note file, but I never got that far. The first thing I saw was this:
Not the best choice of defaults, if you ask me. So I had to start by widening the columns, and rearranging and sorting them. Then columns started switching places, and the sorting behaved in other ways I didn't expect, so I had to spend a long time simply experimenting and trying to figure out what was expected behaviour and what wasn't. Consequently, the main thing I did was sort in various ways with the columns in various orders.
The first crash came early, then they kept coming every few minutes. I eventually figured out both how the sorting was intended to work, and how to reproduce the bug above, but I never really noticed a pattern for the crashes. Possibly, but I'm unsure about this, they may all have come when I stopped clicking and took a short break to consider the next step. I believe the last few happened in the background after switching to Safari to write down the steps (using Spaces, and leaving the dropdown open).
I don't know how many crashes I had altogether, but they were quite a few. I seem to have five Apple crash logs, if they're of any use to you.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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Graham Criddle said:
However, if I then "shift-click" again on the Name column it sorts by date!
If I keep going it just cycles round.
A version of that behaviour confused me at the start, but I believe it's intentional. What it actually does the last time, isn't 'sorting by Date', but removing all sorting by Name (which leaves it sorted by the default order, which happens to be Date). Look at the little arrow and you'll see what's going on.
The thing is, if you've sorted by Name, you can't just shift-click on Date to switch the sorting to that, but you have to first shift-click once, or more likely twice, again on Name, to remove the sorting arrow from that column, then you can shift-click on Date.
The reason, presumably, is to give the option to sort first by Type, then, within the Type, on Date, and then, within the same Date, on Name. Only, there seems to be another bug here: while shift-clicking on the third column does add, turn and remove the little arrow, nothing actually happens with the sorting.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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fgh said:
A version of that behaviour confused me at the start, but I believe it's intentional. What it actually does the last time, isn't 'sorting by Date', but removing all sorting by Name (which leaves it sorted by the default order, which happens to be Date). Look at the little arrow and you'll see what's going on.
Ok. That makes sense, thanks
fgh said:The thing is, if you've sorted by Name, you can't just shift-click on Date to switch the sorting to that, but you have to first shift-click once, or more likely twice, again on Name, to remove the sorting arrow from that column, then you can shift-click on Date.
Yes, but it seems slightly bizarre!
fgh said:The reason, presumably, is to give the option to sort first by Type, then, within the Type, on Date, and then, within the same Date, on Name.
This would be nice
fgh said:Only, there seems to be another bug here: while shift-clicking on the third column does add, turn and remove the little arrow, nothing actually happens with the sorting.
I see what you mean[:)]
Thanks for the insights
Graham
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Graham Criddle said:fgh said:
The thing is, if you've sorted by Name, you can't just shift-click on Date to switch the sorting to that, but you have to first shift-click once, or more likely twice, again on Name, to remove the sorting arrow from that column, then you can shift-click on Date.
Yes, but it seems slightly bizarre!
That's why it took me quite a while (and several crashes) to figure it out.[:)]
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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Bump.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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fgh,
I rebuilt the Documents folder and no longer can reproduce the behavior regarding category switching. Can you rebuild yours (just rename the Documents folder) and tell me if the behavior persists? If so can you take some screen shots of the behavior with the order of what you are doing to reproduce the behavior.
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fgh said:
1) Click on Documents.
2) Arrange columns in order Type, Name, Date.
3) Click on heading to sort by Type.
4) The column order switches to Type, Date, Name.
5) Rearrange to Type, Name, Date.
6) Expand the Notes section.
7) Shift-click on heading to sort by Name.
8) The column order again switches to Type, Date, Name.
This will be fixed in 5.0a SR-3.
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Brisa Calderon said:
This will be fixed in 5.0a SR-3.
Thanks. I presume that means I can ignore Tommy's last post.
Have you managed to reproduce the crashes yet? Have there been cases filed for the other two issues mentioned?
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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You can ignore my post. I think Brisa was brought to this thread through some other means. If she can reproduce it then Dev should be able to figure it out. I can't comment about the crashes.
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The crash has also been resolved. I am not sure if the fix went into 5.0a SR-3. If not, it will be fixed in the next release.
fgh said:Only, there seems to be another bug here: while shift-clicking on the third column does add, turn and remove the little arrow, nothing actually happens with the sorting.
I am able to reproduce this issue. I will report this to Development.
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Thanks.
Not that it matters to me personally anymore, but I would still suggest that you alter the default column width in Documents and Guides to something wider than what's in my screenshot above. It looks a bit ridiculous, besides causing trouble for the (probably few but still) people who don't happen to know how to make them wider.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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