RSVCE no speaker labels or interlinear in old testament.
I have only looked through the books of Genesis and Exodus and it works fine in the other bible versions I have, but the RSVCE is the one I use the most.
Hi Jonathan
From your post in http://community.logos.com/forums/p/61741/437773.aspx you have Verbum Basic with MC
Verbum Basic provides NRSVCE with NT RI but OT RI is not available at the moment.
Foundations would give you the OT and NT RI capabilities for the NRSV (not NRSVCE). I don't know what the differences are between the two so don't know if it would be acceptable to you.
So with OT RI capability not being available you won't see speaker labels for OT books either (as they are dependent on RI data)
Graham
Thanks Graham
I updated to logos 4 and 5 minimum cross-grades, should that not give me the OT, it works with the NRSV, ESV, KIng James version and NLT, I haven't checked the others [;)]
So it is just the RSVCE
Thanks Graham I updated to logos 4 and 5 minimum cross-grades, should that not give me the OT, it works with the NRSV, ESV, KIng James version and NLT, I haven't checked the others So it is just the RSVCE
I updated to logos 4 and 5 minimum cross-grades, should that not give me the OT, it works with the NRSV, ESV, KIng James version and NLT, I haven't checked the others
Jonathan, since the RSVCE is the Catholic Edition (CE) of the RSV, and since the RSV has no reverse interlinear, what you're asking for isn't possible at this time, since the tagging is done in the reverse interlinear portion of the text. I don't know if there are any plans to create a reverse interlinear for the RSV or the RSVCE.
The NRSV has a complete reverse interlinear OT/NT with the apocryphal books to be finished and released next week (scheduled for 12/19).
What you may want to consider is setting up your layout with the RSVCE & NRSV parallel and linked. This will give you the info you want. You could do the same with the ESV, though the ESV does not contain the apocryphal books. Both the NRSV and ESV are based on the same original language texts that the RSV is based on. The main difference between the two is that the NRSV tends to use inclusive language when the text supports it, while the ESV doesn't (compare at Psalm 8:4, for one example), though there are other differences as well, mostly stylistic.
If you want to ask Logos to create a reverse interlinear you can do so in the suggestions forum. Though I'd be surprised if they undertook the project, since demand for a rev.int. for that text would likely be very, very low.
I updated to logos 4 and 5 minimum cross-grades, should that not give me the OT, it works with the NRSV, ESV, KIng James version and NLT,
The L4 MC gives you OT and NT RIs for KJV, ESV and NRSV (along with some others) while the L5 MC adds in some Lexham versions.
So I don't understand how from that path you have NLT RI capability. Have you purchased any other base packages?
Yes - you need Verbum Basic to get this (apologies, in my earlier post I thought you had this) and even then it just provides RI capability.
However, I haven't really tracked the Verbum packages and there are others who can speak more knowledgeably about them than me.
Hi RIchard
This does seem to be available in the Verbum packages - http://www.logos.com/catholic#compare - although I have seen some posts which suggest its not actually published yet so am not totally certain of its status
Get confusing doesn't it [:)]
Hi RIchard Jonathan, since the RSVCE is the Catholic Edition (CE) of the RSV, and since the RSV has no reverse interlinear, what you're asking for isn't possible at this time, since the tagging is done in the reverse interlinear portion of the text. I don't know if there are any plans to create a reverse interlinear for the RSV or the RSVCE. This does seem to be available in the Verbum packages - http://www.logos.com/catholic#compare - although I have seen some posts which suggest its not actually published yet so am not totally certain of its status Graham
Okay. I've learned something new for the day. Does that mean I can have the rest of the day off? I grew up with the RSV, and many verses I memorized back then, still come back in the RSV, even though I've been using the NIV since it was first released in my college days.
Makes me wonder if the RSV is still widely used in Roman Catholic circles. Is that the case, Jonathan? (just curious, no other reason)
It is widely used in the Catholic and Orthodox circles, mainly in the UK, I have used it for more years than I care to remember, I don't like the inclusive language in the NRSV.
The Catholics have a new testament study bible in the RSV CE 2nd edition.
[:)]
This thread looks like a perfect example of what can happen when two Protestants try to answer a Catholic question.[:)] One mixes up the NRSV with the RSV, and one doesn't think of checking the Catholic comparison chart.[:)]
The RSVCE does have an RI for the NT, it's included in all Verbum packages, and, yes, it has shipped.
It does, however, not have an RI for the OT. Since they've done the NT, I presume they intend to do the OT as well, but it's not included in the packages, so it'll cost extra. Keep an eye on the prepub pages. And don't expect it to be finished soon. It takes a year on average to finish an OT RI, and they're already working on three others. It's possible they may be able to start work on this in Q1, when they're supposed to be finished with two of the others, but it's equally possible it could take years.
Good news, thanks [:)]
This thread looks like a perfect example of what can happen when two Protestants try to answer a Catholic question. One mixes up the NRSV with the RSV, and one doesn't think of checking the Catholic comparison chart.
You should see what happens when I try to answer a Mac question. [;)]
Seriously, I didn't check because I knew the RSV has no rev.int. and was quite surprised that the CE version had one for the NT and the RSV doesn't. I just looked this up on Wikipedia and found a comparison chart between the RSV and RSV-CE NT. Interesting. I had no idea there was that much difference - not that it's huge, mostly a lot of little things (bretheren for brothers), and some textual-critical difference (include with note: "some ancient authorities omit" vs. exclude with note: "some ancient authorities include").That's two things I learned today. I guess I can take tomorrow off too then. [;)]
Good news, thanks
If you found that good news you must be very easy to please.[:)]
You should see what happens when I try to answer a Mac question.
I have,[:D]
(Honestly, I've seen some funny examples, but I don't exactly keep track of who was responsible for them.)
The RSVCE NT RI was new with Verbum. Hasn't been on prepub or anything. They simply had to do something about the fact that there wasn't a single Catholic Bible with RI functionality. Still isn't for the OT, though I guess the NRSV comes close enough.
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