Logos 4 and Windows 7

I have recently rebuilt my computer, putting in a new motherboard, processor, video card and new hard drives (2 x 640GB). I have also upgraded to Windows 7, 64-bit edition. I did a fresh install and am presently re-installing all of my software.

I have LOGOS, version 3.0f (also...10,000 sermon illustrations, ver 2; AMG Bible Essentials; Library Upgrade ND; NAS Electronic Bible Library; Nelsons Ultimate CD-ROM [LDLS 3.0]; NIV; Pastor's Library; Preacher's Commentary [LDLS 3.0]; Scholar's Library [OC]; The Essential IVP Reference Collection, ver. 2.0; and the WEA Theological Resource Library, ver. 3). Here are my questions:

(1) If I upgrade to LOGOS 4, do I reinstall all of version 3 plus resources and install L4 overtop...or do I do a fresh install after receiving the DVD from LOGOS?

(2) Will all of my resources listed above automatically convert to L4 after the intall or do I need to get version 4 software from LOGOS and reinstall?

(3) The recommended upgrade, Scholar's Silver, is over $700 which I definitely cannot afford right now. I am a bit confused as to why the L4 upgrade to the package I have right now is $127.50. I see they have added more books than I initially had with my Scholar's version 3. Will you ever offer L4 as a free or lower cost upgrade to L3 owners? I am assuming that the $127.50 is for the additional books that did not come with my L3 software, is that correct? Will you ever offer a L4 upgrade for just the package I have presently free or at lower cost?

(4) I see that Morris Proctor is now starting to teach the L4 software at his workshops. Will he ever come to the Chicago area? I have never seen a Camp Logos offered here. Certainly with Trinity Seminary, Wheaton College and all of the Christian organizations based out of Chicago, you must have a user base here that would be large enough to merit a Camp Logos or two or thee in the greater Chicago area (I am in the western subburbs).

Well, that's probably good enough to start off with. Thanks to any and all who will weigh in to my posting. I look forward to your answers and to further dialog. Blessings

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Kevin Becker

I have recently rebuilt my computer, putting in a new motherboard, processor, video card and new hard drives (2 x 640GB). I have also upgraded to Windows 7, 64-bit edition. I did a fresh install and am presently re-installing all of my software.

I have LOGOS, version 3.0f (also...10,000 sermon illustrations, ver 2; AMG Bible Essentials; Library Upgrade ND; NAS Electronic Bible Library; Nelsons Ultimate CD-ROM [LDLS 3.0]; NIV; Pastor's Library; Preacher's Commentary [LDLS 3.0]; Scholar's Library [OC]; The Essential IVP Reference Collection, ver. 2.0; and the WEA Theological Resource Library, ver. 3). Here are my questions:

(1) If I upgrade to LOGOS 4, do I reinstall all of version 3 plus resources and install L4 overtop...or do I do a fresh install after receiving the DVD from LOGOS?

(2) Will all of my resources listed above automatically convert to L4 after the intall or do I need to get version 4 software from LOGOS and reinstall?

(3) The recommended upgrade, Scholar's Silver, is over $700 which I definitely cannot afford right now. I am a bit confused as to why the L4 upgrade to the package I have right now is $127.50. I see they have added more books than I initially had with my Scholar's version 3. Will you ever offer L4 as a free or lower cost upgrade to L3 owners? I am assuming that the $127.50 is for the additional books that did not come with my L3 software, is that correct? Will you ever offer a L4 upgrade for just the package I have presently free or at lower cost?

(4) I see that Morris Proctor is now starting to teach the L4 software at his workshops. Will he ever come to the Chicago area? I have never seen a Camp Logos offered here. Certainly with Trinity Seminary, Wheaton College and all of the Christian organizations based out of Chicago, you must have a user base here that would be large enough to merit a Camp Logos or two or thee in the greater Chicago area (I am in the western subburbs).

Well, that's probably good enough to start off with. Thanks to any and all who will weigh in to my posting. I look forward to your answers and to further dialog. Blessings

1) I would install everything under LDLS first. This is because some books might not be available to download. Logos 4 can pull book files from your existing instalation. It also might make your download smaller.

2) L4 can read the book files in the Libronix format.

3) The upgrade costs are for new resources, not the engine. You can download the engine for free. With that said there are features of Logos 4 that need some of the new resources to work (Biblical Places, people, etc.) There is a minimum cross grade for 70 bucks that will get you a lot of these resources. If any of these new books look like resources you want, this is probably the cheapest way to get them.

4) I don't know.

Dave Schwabauer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/48332#Comment_48332

Thanks for the reply Kevin....

LDLS...meaning Logos 3 reinstall???

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/48335#Comment_48335

Thanks for the reply Kevin....

LDLS...meaning Logos 3 reinstall???

Yes, I forgot to include another reason. Libronix (version 3, LDLS) has some features that Logos 4 doesn't have. So if you want any of these http://www.logos.com/4/missingfeatures you should have L3 around.

Otto S. Carroll

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/48338#Comment_48338

Just so you know, you don't have to install Libronix 3 onto Windows 7 to get the books not downloaded by the L4 installation process (in my case they were the LSF/LIX resources from the LLS format). You can copy your L3 resources onto and external drive or folder and have L4 to scan that folder (drive) for resources. Any resource that was not downloaded via the L4 installation will be picked up by the scanning process.

Ron Barry

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/48344#Comment_48344

FYI there was a Chicago class September 4-5 2008 and October 17-18 2005. I was at the one in 2005.

Dave Schwabauer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/48370#Comment_48370

Thanks Ron...I thought that Morris Proctor had forgotten about us here in the midwest. I used to live really close to Bellingham, WA and took a Camp Logos there...it was very informative, but I also need to learn more. I feel like there is so much I don't know about the program...and then they bring out version 4 and I feel like I will have to go back to square one.

Are you anywhere close to the western suburbs (Chicago)? Is there by any chance a users group out here or could we find enough LOGOS users to start one so we could learn from each other? Let me know...I am very interested. Saturday mornings are good for me to meet...even if it is only once a month or once every two months.

Dave Schwabauer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/48344#Comment_48344

Otto...can I just install version 4 and then pop my disks into the DVD drive so L4 will "discover resources" or do I actually have to load the entire disk onto an external drive for L4 to discover them?