Amazing Saving on Logos Resource

One of the latest titles to enter pre-pub is "Christ the Stranger: The Theology of Rowan Williams". It's on pre-pub for $19.95, but the print edition retails at $120. That's a saving of $100!

Is an email to Customer Services the best way to let them know they may have grossly over-estimated the retail price, or more likely slipped when typing? The paperback retails for a lot less than $120.

Apologies that the saving isn't quite as amazing as first suggested. Then again, savings rarely are...

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Paul Golder

Retail is based on the retail of the hard cover ($120.00 list, $80 to $85 discounted), but the paperback is $24.95 which is the same as Logos' normal price:

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468794#Comment_468794

That is crazy how there can be that much difference in price from a hardcover to a paperback. Actually I didn't realize until now that Logos probably always compares their price to that of the hardcover version. I guess that is what they call marketing.

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468796#Comment_468796

It's a way for publisher's to fleece libraries who usually only purchase hardcovers, especially with a publisher like T & T Clark that only print "scholarly" works.

fgh

Rosie beat you to it: Show print price for paperback when available, not hardback; better comparison.[;)]

Andrew Baguley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468799#Comment_468799

For quick comparison:

List Price $120.00 (HB), $24.95 (PB)

Logos Prepub $19.95

Logos Retail $24.95

Kindle Edition$19.44

Hardcover: $82.83, $70.45 (New), $76.84 (Used)

Paperback: $21.06, $17.52 (New), $21.78 (Used)

We live in a crazy world (though I'm not sure Logos need to go along with it quite so often).

Would Logos publishing both hardback and paperback list prices be a reasonable way forward?

Andrew Baguley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468803#Comment_468803

Thanks, fgh. I'd missed her post.

I also missed your post while I was typing.

It shows a different approach to titles of posts. I've experimented with both and sometimes wonder which is most effective.

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468805#Comment_468805

It is a bit oxymoronic that a company, one that places a rather high premium on public domain resources because of the added value in their versions, would strive so hard to show that their other publication are sold at a tremendous discount.

[^o)]

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468807#Comment_468807

This guy looks familiar. Is he the universalist unitarian, or am I mistaking him for someone else?

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468810#Comment_468810

Never mind, I looked him up and he clearly is not. Should have done that to begin with. [:S]

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468805#Comment_468805

It shows a different approach to titles of posts. I've experimented with both and sometimes wonder which is most effective.

In this particular case, I would say that naming the thread "Amazing Saving on Logos Resource" and putting it in General is a great strategy to attract views by other users, but perhaps not the best if you want someone from Logos to see it. All or most of them will probably assume that you're just alerting us to some sale that they don't need to read about, since they already know about it.

I generally use a prefix when I want Logos attention: 'BUG:', 'CRASH:', RESOURCE ISSUE:', or just 'LOGOS:'. I also generally avoid the General forum.

Mitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468810#Comment_468810

For anyone interested, the author of this book, Ben Myers, writes an excellent blog at faith-theology.com.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468799#Comment_468799

It's a way for publisher's to fleece libraries who usually only purchase hardcovers, especially with a publisher like T & T Clark that only print "scholarly" works.

Fleecing is a good way to describe that.

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468803#Comment_468803

We live in a crazy world (though I'm not sure Logos need to go along with it quite so often).

Would Logos publishing both hardback and paperback list prices be a reasonable way forward?

I want a Logos paperback price ! (How do you produce a paperback of an electronic resource?) [;)]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468839#Comment_468839

Not fleecing libraries (who by the way share all the books, with no revenue for the writers) would mean un-fleecing the paperback'ers. Somebody needs to get paid to continue the gigantic exercise in civilization as we know it.

But I suspect Logos could significantly reduce their resource costs, by using cheaper ink, and also more 'grey' (instead of a strong black). Also I notice most Bibles have a table of contents on the side. I'm wondering if users should need a TOC for Bibles. Also the title page costs money too. Plus making the fonts smaller would allow fewer pages. I suspect most users would agree to these changes, with a lower resource price.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468839#Comment_468839

We live in a crazy world (though I'm not sure Logos need to go along with it quite so often).

Would Logos publishing both hardback and paperback list prices be a reasonable way forward?

I want a Logos paperback price ! (How do you produce a paperback of an electronic resource?)

Me too! [:)]

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468843#Comment_468843

Not fleecing libraries (who by the way share all the books, with no revenue for the writers) would mean un-fleecing the paperback'ers. Somebody needs to get paid to continue the gigantic exercise in civilization as we know it.

But I suspect Logos could significantly reduce their resource costs, by using cheaper ink, and also more 'grey' (instead of a strong black). Also I notice most Bibles have a table of contents on the side. I'm wondering if users should need a TOC for Bibles. Also the title page costs money too. Plus making the fonts smaller would allow fewer pages. I suspect most users would agree to these changes, with a lower resource price.

Denise has some things in common with the New York Times (and other "newspapers") in that she still thinks in terms of paper and ink. Denise, no ink ! Title page? Cost insignificant.

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468843#Comment_468843

Not fleecing libraries (who by the way share all the books, with no revenue for the writers) would mean un-fleecing the paperback'ers. Somebody needs to get paid to continue the gigantic exercise in civilization as we know it.

Fleecing insomuch as that they use the initial library sales to recoup administrative, setup and writer advances, thus continuing the gigantic exercise.

As far as the loss of royalties for the writers, it's a bit of a win win. For a low read writer, the library distribution may be the greatest part of their income for any particular work, public libraries and educational institutions (which include school and college libraries) buy, on average, 36% of books sold. While one could argue that for a popular author there may be a measurable loss, this is factored into advertising cost at the beginning, and anticipated in contractual negations.

These factors are currently in flux with more and more libraries lending ebooks, as well as publishers countering as of late with time limits on how long a library can lend an ebook. Time will tell...

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468855#Comment_468855

Denise has some things in common with the New York Times (and other "newspapers") in that she still thinks in terms of paper and ink. Denise, no ink ! Title page? Cost insignificant.

I think Denise's main issue is that she's had her tongue surgically attached to her cheek. [:O]

[;)]

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468857#Comment_468857

Denise has some things in common with the New York Times (and other "newspapers") in that she still thinks in terms of paper and ink. Denise, no ink ! Title page? Cost insignificant.

I think Denise's main issue is that she's had her tongue surgically attached to her cheek.

I agree. I was attempting to clarify the matter for the "low-information" Logos user. [8-|]