Multiple Monitors and Logos set-ups
I would personally like to see some Logos set-ups with multiple monitors.
I currently use Logos on a macbook with one external 23inch monitor.
Questions:
1. How do you setup with more than one external monitor?
2. How do you use Logos with multiple Monitors?
3. Would love to see some sample layouts.
4. Is there a way to "move panels" around within the layouts? ( I'm having trouble with this aspect in general).
Thank you.
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First pray that the Lord would protect you from envy then checkout this thread - http://community.logos.com/forums/t/34884.aspx
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I originally posted this on the other thread but decided to post it again here since a new one has begun that is more focused.
I regularly use two monitors or else just my laptop depending on the situation.
I'm not that familiar with the Mac world but the use of multiple monitors is already a feature of windows and is fairly easy to set up.
I would love to see some sample layouts for use on multiple monitors to get some ideas of how best to maximize my study. Right now I don't have any standard format that I use for multiple monitors as I just use the standard layouts that I have created for Logos layouts and open up tabs in new windows and drag them over to the second monitor.
You asked about moving panels around in layouts and for sure this is an option in Logos now. I regularly do this.
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Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:
2. How do you use Logos with multiple Monitors?
Open items in floating windows, then arrange as desired, which can include dragging a tab from one window to another. When a floating window no longer has any tabs, the window should disappear.
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The only problem that I have encountered w/dual monitors is that I haven't been able to keep the links "A,B,C, ETC., ETC." when I close the floating and reopen it....anyone experience this as well? or have I missed something....
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I x3 multiple displays... Normally I have resources on the left and right (logos stuff on all three at the moment), and Word open in the middle.
Its cutting the picture off part way... If you right click, then "copy link location" then paste it into your address bar, you can see the whole thing.L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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Dear ABS: Is that a tablet in the center or a monitor that you have flipped up?
Really nice setup, like the soft lighting behind monitors too.
Next: So I can float a resource panel and add tabs to it of other resources?
Thanks folks, need all the info I can get.
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Dear David: Thanks. Yes, some nice setups. Wish I could see more of what they are doing with them, but nice indeed.
Blessings.
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No - but I can use my Tablet as a fourth display if the need arises (almost never).
The display in the middle is an HP display I got used from the local computer store... Its got a number of (4) burned out pixels etc... but it was well worth the price.
Its stand has the ability to rotate and tilt the display to nearly any angle. With the confines of my desk, I really appreciated this feature. To the left of the big display on the left (32" diagonal) is where my dead tree books start. The display in the middle and the display to the right are both 23" diagonal.
When you are ready to open a book, right click on the link, and then left click on "open in floating window". The resource can then be dragged around to other display. Other resources can be opened and placed in those windows allowing for ALOT more Logos-useable real estate. Its almost like having logos open 3x, but not quite. The original window retains the "home, library and search" icons as well as the "documents" "guides" and "tools" menus.
Earlier I was studying Elijah
, if that is what you are asking Charles. For the picture, I simply opened up three resources at random from the Library. One is from MacArthur, another from A.W. Pink, and the third window is displaying my Logos "home" screen.L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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My tablet is also in the picture, but in a shadow unfortunately. Thanks for the kind words about my setup. I feel really blessed to have it! Its been accumulated over time (Though some parts were recently updated - Ram (22gb) and my octacore processor were purchased this year), and will likely continue to accumulate. My left hand display I inherited. Its slowly failing however.
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One big monitor is better than 2 or 3 smaller ones (my opinion).
I am very happy to see the new movement in the industry towards higher quality IPS display technology. We have put up with cheapo TN lcd panels for long enough. I just upgraded to a 27" IPS LED and the display quality is amazing, and much easier on the eyes. Easier to read smaller print at the same resolutions, and less need for additional displays. I do have my old Samsung 23 inch LED as a second display now, but have it turned off most of the time. [H]
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I think the price point is a big factor for most of us... While a 52" TV would make a much better monitor than 6 displays like mine (Same surface area). However, I have ~200$ into my three, a 52" display is still quite a ways off in terms of price. So in the end, know how much space you have, figure out the best size(s) to suit your space, and then find the displays that are in your price range, and suit your feature needs.
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abondservant said:
I think the price point is a big factor for most of us... While a 52" TV would make a much better monitor than 6 displays like mine (Same surface area). However, I have ~200$ into my three, a 52" display is still quite a ways off in terms of price. So in the end, know how much space you have, figure out the best size(s) to suit your space, and then find the displays that are in your price range, and suit your feature needs.
What you say about price is absolutely true. But size is not the only factor. Quality is even more important in my opinion. They had some great deals on IPS monitors at Best Buy last week, all in the 20 to 24 inch size range. Some of them were selling for less that LCD or LEDs of the same size. The market does not always make sense, but you grab those opportunities when you see them.
A 52" TV would make a terrible monitor. The 1080p standard resolution is optimal for a computer display at about 24-27 inches. A 52 inch TV is designed to be watched from a distance, and has much larger pixel size. The dot pitch or pixel pitch size is too large and makes close up viewing of text and graphics fuzzy.
Take an iPhone 4 or 5 and hold it up next to your computer monitor. Notice any difference in sharpness, contrast and brightness? That is the difference that IPS makes. I see the same difference comparing my android tablet to my wifes iPad 3. The android tablet has a cheap LED display. The iPad 3 has the best available (2048 by 1536 QXGA IPS). When you get older and your eyes are not as good the sharpness is even more important.
The next generation of technology will give us higher resolutions for computer displays. 2560 x 1600 (WQXGA resolution) is already here, and 4k x 2k is possible in the future with current Display Port standards. Expect them to be expensive in larger sizes at first.
We are already seeing higher end video cards and Laptops with Display Port built-in. Eventually we will all have better quality displays. (I got mine early [H] )
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mine are all 1600x900, except the Big one that I inherited. I usually put professors lectures (in quicktime double speed) on it, and watch from my couch.
I know full well what you are saying RE Monitor VS tv. However, I'm not aware of 52" Monitors in production at this point.L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:
3. Would love to see some sample layouts.
Only one external monitor, but rotated to portrait.
Core layout = two main panels on the laptop screen -- one for Bible text in English, the other for original language. The narrow panel to the right sports Information and Copy Bible (top part); Lookup and Highlighting (bottom part).
That leaves the big portrait monitor for whatever I'm really concentrating on, e.g.:
- Sometimes another copy of an English bible, several chapters at once.
- Sometimes commentaries on the book I'm studying.
- While preparing, that's MS Word (about 1.5 pages on screen at once).
- Often journal articles, or search results.
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I am really liking the photos that are being presenting in this thread now. It helps to see what it actually looks like.
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I use a dual monitor set-up with Logos in my left monitor (see layout here http://community.logos.com/forums/p/56363/405167.aspx#405167 ) and my word processor in my right monitor.
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John said:
One big monitor is better than 2 or 3 smaller ones (my opinion).
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John, I can't envision a scenario where this would be true for me. I have found my three 21.5" monitor setup quite efficient and highly preferable to a single monitor, not only for Logos but especially for multitasking.
Here is a picture of my setup:
I can also have other programs opened and displayed on different monitors. The resolution is 1920 x 1080 on all three monitors. One nice feature I use in the morning is to open Win TV and have it running the local news program minimized. I can listen to the news and weather while I am working and enjoying my coffee. Of course this requires a TV Card. My setup is the result of four years of upgrading, modifying and experimenting, but this latest arrangement was amazingly simple to accomplish.
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Here is my little setup:
1st == 13" screen on notebook 1366 x 768 used for Timeline, Bible facts, so on ...
2nd == 19" Potalion screen 1440 x 900 used as main Logos display. I really love this as it was a gift for the mission.
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John said:
A 52" TV would make a terrible monitor. The 1080p standard resolution is optimal for a computer display at about 24-27 inches. A 52 inch TV is designed to be watched from a distance, and has much larger pixel size. The dot pitch or pixel pitch size is too large and makes close up viewing of text and graphics fuzzy.
John you are absolutely right about screen resolution, as I learned the hard way. Over a year ago I bought an HP Desktop (just for Logos!) that came with an HP2711x 27in monitor. After firing it all up I noticed the font wasn't all that great and played around with different fonts to no avail.. The text all looked very jagged. Finally I went to this forum and someone told me I had a sub-par monitor as the screen resolution was giving me about 88 pixels-per-inch. I was disappoited, as I thought I had done my research. I eventually turned that monitor into a TV and bought an Dell U2711 27-inch with a resolution of 2560 x 1440, which gives me about 109 ppi, which is a lot better than 88.
Ever since then, I've always paid attention to pixels-per-inch when it comes to monitors (I go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density as they are all calculated out).
My latest purchase was a ASUS N56VJ-DH71 with a 15.6-Inch display, and it gives me 141 ppi--not iPhone sharp but very good text rendering on a 15inch laptop.
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Very Interesting and helpful.
With a macbook: (alum. 2009) To use more than one external monitor, will I need to get some sort of port duplicator ?
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David P. Moore said:
I ... bought an Dell U2711 27-inch with a resolution of 2560 x 1440, which gives me about 109 ppi, which is a lot better than 88.
You are on the cutting edge now [:)]
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David P. Moore said:
Ever since then, I've always paid attention to pixels-per-inch when it comes to monitors (I go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density as they are all calculated out).
My latest purchase was a ASUS N56VJ-DH71 with a 15.6-Inch display, and it gives me 141 ppi--not iPhone sharp but very good text rendering on a 15inch laptop.
This is very useful info David. Thanks for posting this link! [:)]
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Pixel Depth is important, but All I care about is that I cannot see the pixels. So long as when I look at a display model someplace, I can't see jagged text, or the shape of the pixels themselves, then its all good. High pixel depth is only a benefit in so far as you can see the difference. Once you reach a certain point, the returns diminish.
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abondservant said:
Pixel Depth is important, but All I care about is that I cannot see the pixels. So long as when I look at a display model someplace, I can't see jagged text, or the shape of the pixels themselves, then its all good. High pixel depth is only a benefit in so far as you can see the difference. Once you reach a certain point, the returns diminish.
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I tried this but I still can't get it to work. The floating window tab comes over to the other screen with a slash (/) thru it. I can drag a tab on a browser over. So it is hooked up right.
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Since all of you have multiple monitors maybe you can help me here. Logos just updated this morning and now with my sermon editor open on my external monitor the cursor does not show in the editor. If I move it down to my main screen its there again. I can edit just fine on either monitor but I have to guess where I am on the second screen. Anyone else experience this or have some suggestions. MS word works just fine on either screen.
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Geoff said:
Logos just updated this morning and now with my sermon editor open on my external monitor the cursor does not show in the editor. If I move it down to my main screen its there again. I can edit just fine on either monitor but I have to guess where I am on the second screen. Anyone else experience this or have some suggestions.
It's working fine for me - I've just tested it.
As a first step I would suggest restarting your computer and trying again.
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I did restart the program and my computer and there was no change in behavior. I even asked my computer guy and it sounded to him more like a program problem.
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Geoff said:
I did restart the program and my computer and there was no change in behavior. I even asked my computer guy and it sounded to him more like a program problem.
Have you tried other programs and do you get same result or expected behaviour?
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Word seems to work just fine and so does Freemind. I also noticed that it is not just the sermon editor in logos that does this. The search box or any other box in Logos that you can type in will not display the cursor on the second monitor. I am going to try to do a repair on it and then a restart and see if that makes a difference
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