I would like to see Logos offer the HOTC (maybe even as a pre-pub). The12 volume NT has been available for a while now. This would complete the set.
Abraham
I also would like these... surprised they're not already there.
This may be discussed in a couple other previous threads, but I am interested in the HOTC as well
[Y]
I'm also surprised it's not at least in PrePub. Another Bible software company has been offering it for awhile.
the last book in the HOTC series was just released this summer; 1 & 2 Samuel by Stephen J. Andrews & Robert D. Bergen. Dr. Andrews is a professor here at MBTS in KCMO. Maybe Logos knew the set was almost complete and is waiting for this last piece.
This is a great resource. Logos please add!
I never realized that just very impressed me that another company had it for sale before the end of August, I know I love this set and can understand why windows users are clamouring for it since the software it is available on is designed for the mac (although it will run on mac emulation under windows). I won;t be one of those ordering it for Logos, but I can say I hope it comes available soon for Logos.
-Dan
Dan,
Dr. Andrews is my professor this semester, and he corrected my thinking the set was complete this summer (2010). It actually was complete last summer (2009) and available by the end of 2009.
Jason...I hope you are doing well. If Jason says its a great resource then please add.
Here is a sample
PSALM 37
Taking the Long Look
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“Sinners are not, as a general rule, punished here. Their sentence is reserved until the day of judgment … This is not the time of judgment. Judgment is yet to come.”
Charles H. Spurgeon
I. INTRODUCTION
It may appear that the unrighteous are excelling in this world above and beyond believers. But righteous people must remember that appearances are deceiving. God will have the final say. Psalm 37 is a wisdom poem much like Psalm 1 because it contrasts the two ways of life. There is the way of the godly and the way of the ungodly. A vast chasm lies between the two; they are as far apart as heaven is from hell.
This is a psalm “of David” in which he recorded what he saw all around him—the prosperity of the wicked and the suffering of the righteous. In response, David challenged believers not to become exasperated when the ungodly excelled, often at the expense of the godly, but to remain focused upon God. This song is not addressed to God as most psalms are but is spoken directly to the reader, calling him to trust in the Lord. Its style is similar to the pithy wisdom sayings of Proverbs which differentiate the godly from the ungodly and exhort the godly to trust in the Lord. Such well-placed faith will cause the righteous to inherit the land (vv. 9, 22, 29) and enjoy God’s blessings rather than fret and worry about the wicked who will surely be removed from the earth (vv. 22, 28, 34, 38).
[Vol 11: Ps 1-75, p. 199]
This psalm is an alphabetic acrostic in which every other verse begins with successive letters of the Hebrew alphabet.
II. COMMENTARY
MAIN IDEA: The godly should trust in the Lord to deliver them from evil because the wicked will ultimately be destroyed, even though they appear to prosper.
A. David’s Counsel (37:1–11)
37:1–2. This first section begins with a series of exhortations to the godly. Some of these exhortations are negative (vv. 1, 7–8), and some are positive (vv. 3–5, 7–8). Each reveals divine wisdom. The psalm begins, Do not fret because of evil men, an imperative that is repeated twice more (vv. 1, 7–8). The word fret translates a Hebrew verb meaning “to be heated,” or “to be hot in anger” (cp. Prov. 24:19). David instructed believers not to allow evil men who temporarily succeeded in their plans to become a source of heated worry. Likewise, the righteous should not be envious of them, as if wanting to trade places with them. Instead, believers should take the long look into the future when, like the grass, the wicked would wither and die away without hope.
37:3–4. Instead, the righteous should trust in the LORD, or depend exclusively on him. They should delight themselves in the LORD, or find their satisfaction in God, not in the pursuit of evil (cp. Ps. 1:1). Delighting in God will give one righteous desires and thus God will give the desires of the heart.
37:5–7a. David advised the righteous, Commit your way to the LORD, which means to roll it over onto the Lord. God would make their righteousness shine like the dawn, or cause their lives to radiate with the fullness of his divine justice. God would vindicate the righteous in the future in his perfect timing, unlike the wicked who sought honor now. The righteous should be still before the LORD without taking matters into their own hands and wait patiently for him.
37:7b–11. David repeated his original advice: Do not fret when men succeed. He returned to the earlier thought of verse 2—sinners who seem to flourish for a season will eventually be destroyed (Eccl. 3:16–17). To point this out, he used a series of contrasts between the godly and the ungodly. Refrain from anger, he declared, because these evil men in the final day would be cut off and die before entering eternity damned. But those who hope in the LORD—the meek—will inherit the land (cp. Matt. 5:5). This indicated the fullness of God’s blessing.
B. David’s Caution (37:12–22)
37:12–17. David issued a strong warning about the future of the ungodly. The wicked may plot against the righteous, scheming to do them harm, but the Lord only laughs in derision. Their day of reckoning with God in the final judgment is coming. The wicked may draw the sword against the poor, but it will be turned against them and pierce their own hearts. Their own power will [Vol 11: Ps 1-75, p. 200] be broken. Far better is the little in this world that the righteous have than the wealth of many wicked. Take the long look, David said. The power of the wicked will be broken. But the Lord upholds the righteous who trust him.
37:18–22. David declared that the days of the blameless are known to the LORD (cp. Ps. 90:12). In other words, he is involved with them (cp. Ps. 1:6) to preserve and prosper them. When difficulty comes, whether disaster or famine, they will not wither like evil men, but they will enjoy plenty from his hand. But the wicked will perish and pass from the scene like smoke. They will suffer great loss and be cast into an eternal hell by the Lord.
C. David’s Confidence (37:23–34)
37:23–26. David focused more intently on the blessing of the righteous. The Lord delights in the way of those who trust him, making his steps firm. Even if he should stumble in the face of difficult adversity, he will not fall, for the LORD upholds him. David was obviously advanced in age, looking back on his life that had experienced the faithfulness of God. I was young and now I am old, he said, yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken. Thus, they have plenty to lend freely and abundance overflows to their children who are never begging bread.
37:27–29. David reminded the righteous to turn from evil and do good. This is a call for a lifestyle of repentance, separation, and holiness. A person who does this will always live securely, knowing God’s protection and provision. David was assured that God would not forsake his faithful ones. The wicked would be cut off in judgment, but the righteous would be protected forever and inherit and dwell in the land throughout future generations.
37:30–34. The virtues of the righteous man are noteworthy. His mouth speaks wisdom and justice because the law of God occupies his heart. God’s truth so affects his daily life that his feet do not slip into sinful ways. Even when the wicked seek to ambush the righteous, the Lord will come to their rescue and not leave them in their power to be condemned with false accusations in court. Thus, the righteous should wait for the LORD. Those who do will know God’s security though the wicked are cut off. In due time God will exalt his own to inherit the land.
D. David’s Conclusion (37:35–40)
37:35–38. One last time David contrasted the wicked and the blameless. The wicked may initially flourish like a green tree, giving every appearance of strength and success, but he is soon gone. But the blameless and upright have a glorious future. All present injustices will be made right by God, whether now or in eternity. His people must wait on him.
37:39–40. Concluding with a positive affirmation, David declared, The salvation of the righteous comes from the LORD. This divine rescue comes [Vol 11: Ps 1-75, p. 201] because the LORD is the stronghold (Heb. maoz, “a strong fortified place”) for all who take refuge in him.
III. CONCLUSION
President Woodrow Wilson once stated, “I had rather temporarily fail in a cause that will ultimately succeed than temporarily succeed in a cause that will ultimately fail.” When assessing any situation, a person should always take the long look. What is most important is not that a cause begins well but that it ends well. This is precisely the wisdom David has given in this psalm. We must not allow the initial success of the ungodly to lead us astray. We should take the long look. Those who trust in the Lord will triumph in the end.
IV. TEACHING OUTLINE
A. David’s Counsel (1–11)
1. Do not fear (1–2)
a. Evil men may initially prosper (1)
b. Evil men will ultimately perish (2)
2. Have faith in God (3–7a)
a. Trust the Lord (3)
b. Delight in the Lord (4)
c. Commit to the Lord (5–6)
d. Wait on the Lord (7a)
3. Do not fear (7b–11)
a. Evil men may initially prosper (7b–8)
b. Evil men will ultimately perish (9–11)
B. David’s Caution (12–22)
The wicked:
1. Plot but soon perish (12–13)
2. Fortify but soon fall (14–15)
3. Prosper but soon wither (16–17)
4. Flourish but soon vanish (18–20)
5. Borrow but soon lose (21–22)
C. David’s Confidence (23–34)
Concerning the righteous, the Lord:
1. Delights in him (23)
2. Sustains him (24)
3. Provides for him (25–26)
4. Protects him (27–28)
5. Prospers him (29)
6. Instructs him (30–31)
7. Delivers him (32–33)
[Vol 11: Ps 1-75, p. 202]
8. Exalts him (34)
D. David’s Conclusion (35–40)
1. The great difference (35–38)
a. The wicked perish (35–36, 38)
b. The righteous prosper (37)
2. The great deliverance (39–40)
a. The Lord delivers the righteous (39a, 40a)
b. The Lord defends the righteous (39b, 40b)
[Vol 11: Ps 1-75, p. 203]
Yes, I would also be glad to see Logos provide HOTC as a pre-pub.
Yes, Logos should offer HOTC. It will complete the commentary and be a blessing to the subscribers.
Would love to have the rest of the set in Logos.
I would like to see this set as well! [Y]
Would love this series as well
I love the HNTC and would love to get the full set. LOGOS, PLEASE MAKE THIS AVAILABLE!!!
Me too
Yes I as well would be QUICK to purchase the HOTC if Logos would please add it. I use my HNTC frequently and see no reason the OT version can get any love and be added as well.
Another vote here to add HOTC to Logos. This is a very trustful publication.
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I would be quick to purchase this if offered. I only found this thread through a google search. I could not find it searching LOGOS forum. Just got off the phone with LOGOS and nothing is in the works for prepub. It needs more people interested to get their attention. Anybody have any ideas on how we can get the word out?
suggest@logos.com is the quickest and surest way to get solid attention for desired works. I would suspect that they know there is an interest but there could possibly be something holding them back. Holman may have no interest in licensing it out. It may be reserved for their own Bible software, it is true this is available in Accordance where I own it, but this might have initially been offered to them because they had mac software, so i.e.:we sell it on ours for windows, you can sell it for the mac. If this is not the case it is quite baffling why Logos has never went after it.
Holman may have no interest in licensing it out. It may be reserved for their own Bible software, it is true this is available in Accordance where I own it, but this might have initially been offered to them because they had mac software, so i.e.:we sell it on ours for windows, you can sell it for the mac. If this is not the case it is quite baffling why Logos has never went after it.
Be baffled. I'm pretty certain this is not the case. Lifeway didn't own their own Bible software until 2011. The Holman Commentaries were released for the Accordance Library around 2010.
I'll say no more for propriety's sake :-)
I guess I knew word search wasn't owned by life way then, but Wordsearch in the past has fought hard to get exclusive rights for things like the Complete Bible Library which was asked for numbers times here, but repeatedly pointed out that WS had exclusive rights electronically for a number of years. Only FL knows the real reason this item has never been offered, and I have yet to see any official response. Maybe if Bob told us something (not sure if mentioning his name will flag this to his attention, and even if if did not sure he would have anything useful to tell). I am just very happy to have it in accordance. It falls on a more conservative spectrum that I sit, but I try to gather pearls from many seas as one might say.
I called several times and always got the answer, "that is above my job knowledge" type of answer, even after being bumped around to different departments for over an hour. I did email suggest@logos.com and finally received this answer:Thank you for contacting us regarding your question!
Unfortunately I'm unable to give you a timeline for if/when these resources will be available. However, the HOTC is on our list of book candidates, which means we’ve definitely got it on our radar.
Have a great day
I love the Holmon Commentaries and would buy the Old Testament Set !!!!
Agreed
If they do not have word on this soon, I am going to just buy the hard copy set at http://www.christianbook.com/holman-old-testament-commentary-20-volumes/9780805495232/pd/495230 for $200. If I do, I will not be buying a second set here even if it does come out in the future. The other option is to just switch to WORDsearch where it is offered. I hear their program is much faster and easier to navigate.On the fence for now.
CBD has reduced their price to $190 and free shipping in the US.
It is. Over at Accordance too and accordance runs much better than Wordsearch 11. That said I suppose it is where you are most comfortable.
Dan
Just bought it at CBD for $171 with a 10% off code EXTRA10. This code ends today, January 5th at midnight. LOGOS missed out.
Another vote for the Holman Old Testament Commentary (HOTC) here
Bump for logos!
Please? Is it possible, Faithlife?
Bump
I'd like to see them as well. I actually have them in WordSearchBible, but hardly ever use the program.
Waiting for it too!
Next month will mark 10 years since the original request for HOTC was posted here in the forum.
I too would like to see this resource in Logos. Perhaps there is a licensing issue preventing its release?
Anyone from Logos able to provide us information?
I really enjoy the NT volumes, especially the outlines. Im not creative enough to come up with the alliterated outlines, and rely on the Holman NT Commentary outlines a lot. Would love to see the OT set!!
I second this request! I've been waiting & hoping for the Old Testament side for a while now!
Joyfully,
Matthew
This set would be a fantastic addition to the Faithlife catalog.
I hate to be Debbie downer here but it is not coming. We’ve been asking for years and it exists in other ecosystems so it is either a rights issue or logos just doesn’t feel it valuable.
BUMPITY BUMP BUMP; most if not all of Logos' competitors sell this
