CP: The James Orr Collection (21 vols.)
http://www.logos.com/product/25013/the-james-orr-collection
If you've read Naugle's Worldview (which would be great to have in logos btw!), you know Orr was the first guy to articulate the Christian faith in terms of worldview, and he heavily influenced Kuyper along these lines. Let's all jump on board and push this thing down to $40 by next Friday!
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I would be willing to pay up to $40 and have placed my bid there.
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Sometimes to drive the price down, you need to bid higher than your willing to pay.
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Evan Boardman said:
Sometimes to drive the price down, you need to bid higher than your willing to pay.
You can always cancel the prepub order if you're short on cash when it ships. [:$]
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JPH said:
http://www.logos.com/product/25013/the-james-orr-collection
If you've read Naugle's Worldview (which would be great to have in logos btw!), you know Orr was the first guy to articulate the Christian faith in terms of worldview, and he heavily influenced Kuyper along these lines. Let's all jump on board and push this thing down to $40 by next Friday!
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Bump.
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I also hope more people will jump in to bring the cost down. $40 would be great for this collection.
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JPH - Perhaps you could further explain why you think this collection is worth the current price of $50
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Bruce Dunning said:
JPH - Perhaps you could further explain why you think this collection is worth the current price of $50
He was the D. A. Carson of his day.
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David Bailey said:
I also hope more people will jump in to bring the cost down. $40 would be great for this collection.
Last Chance to Get On Board: If a few of you raise your bid now, and we may all get it for 40
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Okay, I've been holding back for weeks now on this. I just placed my bid. I hope a few more folks do so and get this down to $40.
Speaking of $40 I wish that Logos would have done this resource in $5 increments.
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Bruce Dunning said:
Okay, I've been holding back for weeks now on this. I just placed my bid. I hope a few more folks do so and get this down to $40.
Speaking of $40 I wish that Logos would have done this resource in $5 increments.
Thanks Bruce. We have a few more hours to encourage others to jump in and - perhaps - lower the price to $40. We're so close.
Meanwhile, I want to share this short article about Jame Orr, found in a Logos resource:
ORR, James (1844–1913), Scottish theologian and polemicist, was born in Glasgow on 11 April 1844. He was orphaned at an early age; subsequent apprenticeship (out of economic necessity) to a bookbinder and postponement of his university entrance until the age of twenty-one suggest a Spartan adolescence. He identified as a young man with the minority United Presbyterians (UPs) and their egalitarian tradition. He then studied at the UP Divinity Hall, Edinburgh (1868–1872), and Glasgow University (MA, 1870, BD, 1872, DD, 1885) where, under the tutelage of John Veitch (one of Scotland’s last common-sense philosophers) and the Neo-Hegelians John and Edward Caird, he acquired a respect for reason’s role in theology. After a pastoral ministry of seventeen years in the Scottish Borders town of Hawick, he delivered a lecture series that was published as The Christian View of God and the World (1893). This work, which proved to be his greatest, launched him on a prolific academic career. In the remaining two decades of his life, while serving first at the UP College in Edinburgh (1891–1900) and then at the United Free Church College in Glasgow (1900–1913), he wrote sixteen books, edited a magazine and a major reference work, contributed hundreds of articles and reviews, and frequently lectured in North America. The cumulative effect of these activities was that his voice seemed omnipresent in his day.
During the 1870s Orr was among those Presbyterians who campaigned for modified subscription to the Westminster Confession. He helped draft the UP Declaratory Statement of 1879, which qualified and effectively reduced the extent to which a minister was obliged to affirm the content of the church’s subordinate standards. The UP approach was imitated by the other main wings of Scottish Presbyterianism, and served to undermine the rule of Calvinism in Scotland.
The central thesis of Orr’s The Christian View (a thesis that later directly influenced American evangelical theologian Carl F. H. Henry among others) is that there is inherent in the Christian faith a uniquely adequate and coherent interpretation of existence. Though Christianity is a religion and not a philosophy, it does offer among its benefits a supremely satisfying worldview. It is the coherence of the Christian worldview, its harmony with reason and moral experience, that makes it compelling. Thus the systematic presentation of evangelical doctrine (which is nothing other than the setting forth of this worldview) is in fact the most comprehensive apologetic for the Christian faith. Accordingly, The Christian View does not begin with an apology for Scripture and then proceed to confident deduction therefrom. The Christian system of belief is commended on the basis of its own intrinsic merits and the correspondence assumed to exist between its claims and humanity’s capacity to recognize truth intuitively and rationally. In this sense, then, the Christian faith is self-authenticating.Having retreated from a strict adherence to confessional Calvinism, Orr gave notice in The Christian View of what he considered the Christian faith to be, namely, a religion of personal redemption necessarily undergirded by the classic doctrines of evangelical belief. ‘I do not believe,’ he said, ‘that in order to preserve [the Christian view] one single truth we have been accustomed to see shining in that constellation will require to be withdrawn’. This comment set the tone for Orr’s subsequent theological contribution, which may best be described as a call for continued adherence to the central tenets of evangelical orthodoxy. In the course of his career, he urged such continuity in the face of challenges from Ritschlianism, Old Testament criticism, evolutionary theory and the quest of the historical Jesus.
Orr was one of the earliest and principal British critics of German liberal Albrecht Ritschl’s thought. In his The Ritschlian Theology and the Evangelical Faith (1897) and elsewhere, Orr insisted that Ritschlianism was opposed to genuine Christianity and was intellectually untenable because of its limitation of the role of reason in Christian thought and experience. In The Progress of Dogma (1901) Orr tried to counter Ritschlian Adolf Harnack’s negative verdict on the history of dogma by arguing that it has unfolded according to a recognizable inner logic. By regarding this logical movement as a manifestation of God’s hand in history, Orr sought to vindicate the orthodox doctrines that the movement produced.In The Problem of the Old Testament (1906), which was prompted partly by his Glasgow colleague George Adam Smith’s advocacy of the documentary hypothesis, Orr argued for the ‘essential Mosaicity’ of the Pentateuch, and for a traditional construction of Old Testament history. Orr treated Charles Darwin’s theory of humanity’s origin as a serious threat to the Christian doctrines of humanity and sin. Initially he appeared comfortable with theistic evolution but later, in God’s Image in Man (1905), he stressed the necessity of supernatural interruptions of the evolutionary process to account for the human being as a embodied soul and still later, in Sin as a Problem of Today (1910), he argued that the idea of moral evolution (as articulated by F. R. Tennant and others) undermined the seriousness of sin and humanity’s accountability for it. Finally, he held firmly to orthodox Christological formulations in the face of alternative assessments of the historical Jesus. Among his reasons for doing so was his pragmatic conviction that nothing less would be sufficient to sustain the vitality of the church’s practical religious life. In such works as The Virgin Birth of Christ (1907), he defended theologically as well as biblically the virginal conception of the mediator.
In the course of all these initiatives, Orr made allowances that later fundamentalists would view as unthinkable concessions. He welcomed Ritschl’s emphasis on kingdom expansion; he made qualified allowance for evolutionary development; he was unconcerned to defend a literal interpretation of the early chapters of Genesis, and he took the view that an insistence on biblical inerrancy was actually ‘suicidal’ (see his Revelation and Inspiration [1910], p. 198).
None the less, a fairly widespread academic resistance to his views, combined with his own deep-seated populist instincts and common-sense convictions, led Orr in later years to direct his appeals primarily towards the Christian public (see, e.g., his The Bible Under Trial [1907], The Faith of a Modern Christian [1910] and his contributions to The Fundamentals [1910–1915]). His last great work as general editor of the five-volume International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia (1915), according to its preface a reference tool ‘adapted more directly to the needs of the average pastor and Bible student’, constituted a substantial and enduring means of extending conservative orthodoxy’s line of defence.Orr’s contribution was decisively shaped by the conviction that evangelical orthodoxy is ultimately self-authenticating, that truth comprises a unity or interconnected whole, and that genuine Christian belief implies a two-storey supernaturalist cosmology. The significance of Orr’s theological contribution lies not in its pervasive originality, but in the breadth of his grasp of classic doctrine, the exhaustiveness of the reading upon which his conclusions were based and the vigour with which he defended and propagated his views. His personal emphasis on supernaturalism, as well as his populist sympathies, were certainly hallmarks of later fundamentalism; very rarely, however, were the breadth of his scholarship, or the firm but cordially inclusive tenor of his apologetic efforts, matched among his conservative successors.
Timothy Larsen et al., Biographical Dictionary of Evangelicals (Leicester, England; Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 2003), 491-92.Cheers!
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Bruce Dunning said:
Okay, I've been holding back for weeks now on this. I just placed my bid. I hope a few more folks do so and get this down to $40.
Speaking of $40 I wish that Logos would have done this resource in $5 increments.
YES
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WOW!!!
I just placed my bid at $50 and when it refreshed the page, the price moved to $40!
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Now is the time to get in!
If you had your bid at 30, time to raise it to 40 or you will miss out! [:'(]
Too bad Logos does not make this 5 dollar jumps! [:(]
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JPH said:toughski said:
I just placed my bid at $50 and when it refreshed the page, the price moved to $40!
Orr's works for less than $2/vol-- fantastic.
[Y] So and very soon it will close!
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