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MJ. Smith
MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,899
edited November 2024 in English Forum

For a perspective on them see the new reading list http://topics.logos.com/Prosopological_Exegesis Next month Logos is set to deliver The Journal of Theological Interpretation which will allow me to provide a Logos resource references. In the meantime, if anyone can find the other half of the Bosma article online, please let me know.

Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

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  • David Paul
    David Paul Member Posts: 6,073 ✭✭✭

    Interesting to see how scholars are dipping their toes into this subject. From a prophetic perspective the writer/author is rarely speaking for himself, even when he is explicitly quoting himself--that's just how it works. Almost every statement and action in the Bible has a prophetic purpose that is bigger than the individual(s) in the "textual presentation scenario", and that is true regardless of genre. The notion so common today that you should read historical narrative as narrative, epistles as epistles, poetry as poetry, apocalyptic as apocalyptic, prophecy as prophecy, etc., is missing the point...

    It's all prophecy. That ought to obvious, considering Gen. 22 as a clear example. Presented as historical narrative, it is replete with prophecy and on many different levels. It is not an exaggeration to say that the story of Job isn't about Job at all. Not to say it didn't actually happen to Job--it did. It just isn't about him and his experience.

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  • Martin Grainger Dean
    Martin Grainger Dean Member Posts: 571 ✭✭
    MJ. Smith said:



    Logos is set to deliver The Journal of Theological Interpretation.

    MJ, Logos just released this collection.
  • Martin Grainger Dean
    Martin Grainger Dean Member Posts: 571 ✭✭
  • Lonnie Spencer
    Lonnie Spencer Member Posts: 371 ✭✭

    Along these lines, I would recommend Peter Leithart's book "Deep Exegesis" which is available at Logos. Very interesting topic M.J. Good luck finding your article.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,899

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Martin Grainger Dean
    Martin Grainger Dean Member Posts: 571 ✭✭
    MJ when do you have time you could add more links to this subject in the logos topic. I didn't found anything more relevant in other places. Does the Leithart's book speaks more about prosopological exegesis?
  • Lonnie Spencer
    Lonnie Spencer Member Posts: 371 ✭✭

    Hey Martin,

    Leithart does not use the term "prosopological exegesis" or give reference to it in "Deep Exegesis". But his use of typology and his analogy of reading the scriptures to reading a murder mystery where the full meaning is disclosed in the last chapter when the full story has been told could certainly dovetail with what is written in the links MJ has given. As Leithart has stated as his objective is to read Scripture like Jesus and Paul, seems to be the objective of  prosopological exegesis also. WhyI suggested "Deep Exegesis" because it is Leitharts hermenutic book and his blog on "First Things" is a hermenuitc post.  If I am able to wrap my brain around the concept  correctly or not is yet to be seen, but I do like the possibilities he raises for interpretation. There are book reviews of "Deep Exegesis" on the internet that I would consult and it may help you  make up your mind to see if there is a connection here or not.

    I am happy Logos made "Deep Exegesis" available. Either way, it is an interesting and fun read.. [:)] .

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,899

    when do you have time you could add more links to this subject in the logos topic.

    I've added a few more ... but we're reaching the limits of my knowledge.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Martin Grainger Dean
    Martin Grainger Dean Member Posts: 571 ✭✭
    MJ. Smith said:



    I've added a few more ...

    Thanks, MJ. I'll check them.



    Hey Martin,

    Leithart does not use the term "prosopological exegesis" or give reference to it in "Deep Exegesis". But his use of typology and his analogy of reading the scriptures to reading a murder mystery where the full meaning is disclosed in the last chapter when the full story has been told could certainly dovetail with what is written in the links MJ has given. As Leithart has stated as his objective is to read Scripture like Jesus and Paul, seems to be the objective of prosopological exegesis also. WhyI suggested "Deep Exegesis" because it is Leitharts hermenutic book and his blog on "First Things" is a hermenuitc post. If I am able to wrap my brain around the concept correctly or not is yet to be seen, but I do like the possibilities he raises for interpretation. There are book reviews of "Deep Exegesis" on the internet that I would consult and it may help you make up your mind to see if there is a connection here or not.

    I am happy Logos made "Deep Exegesis" available. Either way, it is an interesting and fun read.. Smile .

    Lonnie, if you have the Deep Exegesis can you share the logoslink of these resources? Or you could add them to http://topics.logos.com/Prosopological_Exegesis in the Logos Resources area. Thanks.
  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    For a perspective on them see the new reading list http://topics.logos.com/Prosopological_Exegesis Next month Logos is set to deliver The Journal of Theological Interpretation which will allow me to provide a Logos resource references. In the meantime, if anyone can find the other half of the Bosma article online, please let me know.

    I contacted the librarian in charge of periodicals at the Hekman Library at Calvin who was very helpful.  Unfortunately, the first part is in the ATLA database which requires login.  She did, however, send the file to me, and I intend to post it in the files section shortly.

    george
    gfsomsel

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  • Martin Grainger Dean
    Martin Grainger Dean Member Posts: 571 ✭✭
    Thanks for the links, Lonnie. However I was referring to logosres: link of Deep Exegesis so we can add them to the topic. What the filename of Deep Exegesis are (ZZZZZ.logos4)? Martin.
  • Lonnie Spencer
    Lonnie Spencer Member Posts: 371 ✭✭

    I'm sorry Martin but I barely live in the 21st century. I cannot comprehend what you are wanting. Sorry but I am just a dumb theologian and not a computer geek.[:(]

    If my Logos opens up, its a good day.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,899

    I'll add it ... if you own the resource, a right click will create the link RL stands for Reading List (topic) format).

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."