wow... Augustine's confessions
Don't know about you but this is the first time I see this amount of enthusiasm on a CP. Augustine's Confessions and Select Letters has a current bid less than 50% of when it initially crossed the top. Quite impressive!
Question is: Since I already have the works in the Early Church Fathers collection I'm not sure this adds value or am I missing something? Is this translation way better?
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I'm in for the Latin and the letters. Plus the translations in the ECF always seem a bit antiquated to me.
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Sleiman said:
Don't know about you but this is the first time I see this amount of enthusiasm on a CP. Augustine's Confessions and Select Letters has a current bid less than 50% of when it initially crossed the top. Quite impressive!
Less than 50% I've seen several times, but this I can't remember seeing before:
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Sleiman said:
Question is: Since I already have the works in the Early Church Fathers collection I'm not sure this adds value or am I missing something? Is this translation way better?
These are the Loeb Classical Library editions. I don't personally know how the translation compares with that in ECF. I did find somewhere on the web where someone wrote that the "Loeb Classical Library editions are known for their outdated, clunky translations, although LCL has in recent years been issuing some more up-to-date editions with better translations." Unfortunately it looks like this Augustine CP contains older translations (1912–1930).
The benefit of the LCL editions lies in their side-by-side presentation of English and the original language. I'm not sure whether Logos will retain the side-by-side layout in one pane or release separate files that can be linked and scrolled together, but either way the effect will be the same.
I would say $6 is an excellent price.
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I had a look at the sample pages and for me, yes it looks like this CP translation is actually harder to read. The description claims that it is a literal translation. For some this maybe important for study. For me though, I'd rather have a more readable version - if at all.Rosie Perera said:Unfortunately it looks like this Augustine CP contains older translations (1912–1930).
Yes... can't argue with that.Rosie Perera said:I would say $6 is an excellent price.
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I wish they indicated which letters are included to compare with the ECF. But I'm not sure there are any in the ECF! This along with the low price convinced me to put in a bid as well. Eventually though, I'd really like to see the whole corpus of Augustine's work in Logos. The New City Press is still working on completing the translation to English.Greg F said:I'm in for the Latin and the letters.
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The major differences between the Loeb Classical Library edition and the ECF are that the Loeb contains newer translations and the original Latin text. Rosie, to answer your question, we’ll produce two Logos resources per Loeb volume—an original language resource and an English resource—so that the two can be linked and scrolled together in Logos.
I should also mention that Augustine’s Confessions and Select Letters was the first Loeb project we listed on community pricing several weeks ago, but that several others have been listed since then. Check out The Works of Julius Caesar, Select Works of Cicero, Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey, Select Works of Virgil, Livy’s History of Rome, and Eusebius' Ecclesiastical History. And that’s just for starters. Over the next few months, we’ll be posting nearly all of the Loeb Classical Library volumes in the public domain on community pricing. We’re listing them as small collections to keep them affordable and to get them into production as soon as possible, so keep an eye out for them and spread the word.
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There have actually been a number of $4.00 (or less) books in Community pricing, the first that I remembered well and noted was this one in August 2009 *smile*
Peace to all! It would be so wonderful if we could get "every one" to bid on "every book," but I realise that isn't about to happen...
The Major Works of Anselm of Canterbury (4 vols.)
by Sidney Deane, Anselm of Canterbury
Logos Bible Software 2009
Your Price$20.48 CAD (19.95 USD)*
Overview
For nearly one thousand years, theologians, philosophers, and Christian apologists have felt the effects of Anselm of Canterbury. Anselm’s theological method was rigorous, and represented a seismic shift in medieval thought. He is widely considered the founder scholastic theology, and he has been called the church’s “second Augustine.” His treatise on the atonement, Cur Deus Homo was the first to systematically articulate the penal substitution theory of the atonement, which was later developed by John Calvin and widely embraced by Reformed and evangelical churches. He was also the first to construct and systematize the ontological argument for the existence of God. The Major Works of Anselm of Canterbury contains Anselm’s important theological and philosophical writings: the Proslogium, the Monologium, Cur Deus Homo, and Reply to Guanilon.
Praise for the Print Edition
As a thinker, Anselm stands high in any company. Within the Christian tradition he rates among the best theologians of any age and among the finest authors of spiritual writings . . . Anselm was a pioneer of a method of clear thinking whose tone can be straightforwardly described as a sweet reasonableness. . . . There is always an issue of perennial concern at the heart of any matter he considers.
—G. R. Evans, Lecturer in History, University of Cambridge
Individual Titles
Proslogium
- Author: St. Anselm of Canterbury
- Translator: Sidney N. Deane
- Publisher: Open Court
Monologium
- Author: St. Anselm of Canterbury
- Translator: Sidney N. Deane
- Publisher: Open Court
Cur Deus Homo
- Author: St. Anselm of Canterbury
- Translator: Sidney N. Deane
- Publisher: Open Court
An Appendix In Behalf of the Fool
- Author: St. Anselm of Canterbury
- Translator: Sidney N. Deane
- Publisher: Open Court
Product Details
- Title: The Major Works of Anselm of Canterbury (4 vols.)
- Author: St. Anselm of Canterbury
- Translator: Sidney Norton Deane
- Publisher: Open Court
- Volumes: 4
- Pages: 288
About St. Anselm
Anselm was born in 1033 in Aosta in modern-day Italy. In 1059, after the death of his mother, Anselm left home and traveled to Normandy, and entered the Benedictine Abbey of Bec, where he became abbot in 1053. During his years at the Bec Abbey, he wrote his philosophical works, the Monologium and the Proslogium. Anselm made numerous trips to England after the Norman Conquest of 1066. His popularity with the English led King William II to appoint him as Archbishop of Canterbury in 1093. He remained Archbishop of Canterbury until his death in 1109.
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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From this Harvard's webpage, these are 520 volumes[:O]. Nice.Mike Grigoni said:And that’s just for starters. Over the next few months, we’ll be posting nearly all of the Loeb Classical Library volumes in the public domain on community pricing.
Question: when Augustine is referenced from other Logos resources (not necessarily to a specific translation), will the reference point to all available translations (ECF and Loeb) or a specific one? In case of Eusebius there's this translation and now the Loeb's.
If I'm not mistaken, I believe that when the PL is referenced in a Logos book and even where the work is available in the ECF as a translation, the ECF is not linked.
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I'm very pleased to see the Loeb sets being offered in Logos.
However, I do wonder what the utility of some of them are, such as Livy and Homer, in light of the Perseus collection and other offerings that duplicate the original language and English translations.
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