Words to study or Concepts to master. V8 moments
I would think there is a list of "most important words" to study or concepts to understand. Nouns, verbs, etc. Looking for some guidance. Example, 3 different words used for “love.” Those concepts that you hit yourself in the head like the commercial “I wish I would have had a V8.” Thanks for any ideas. Mike
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Justification, adoption, sanctification, atonement, righteousness, faith/faithfulness, sin, love/compassion, joy, peace, patience/longsuffering, kindness, goodness, gentleness, self-control, humility, submission.
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Michael Wert said:
3 different words used for “love.”
The common "Three Biblical Words for Love" sermon is awful exegesis. [:S]
- One of the "three" words isn't in the Bible.
- The other two "biblical" words are more fluid than is often expressed in sermons.
If you are planning to do some word studies, it would benefit you to take a look at Exegetical Fallacies by Carson. If you own it, you can open it to the right passage HERE.
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Michael Wert said:
I would think there is a list of "most important words" to study or concepts to understand. Nouns, verbs, etc. Looking for some guidance. Example, 3 different words used for “love.” Those concepts that you hit yourself in the head like the commercial “I wish I would have had a V8.” Thanks for any ideas. Mike
It's not in Logos yet, but the cover of this book is a great start:
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Mark Barnes said:
It's not in Logos yet, but the cover of this book is a great start:
Aw man. That just shows all the words I forgot... (how could I forget grace?)
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Mark Barnes said:
It's not in Logos yet, but the cover of this book is a great start:
I just now created a suggestion for 18 Words by J.I. Packer in THIS thread. Thanks for the recommendation Mark. [:)]
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Yes, words like these..... but my reference to love was that Jesus used different words when talking to Peter after the resurrection. My Bible just used the word love. Is there a list of words that have different defn with only one English word associated with it.
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I will put this in my wish list for now. thanks
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Leon Morris has a book, The Apostolic Preaching of the Cross, which is essentially a series of word studies on significant concepts. This has been requested on different occasions but is not yet available in Logos.
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/66556/464268.aspx#464268
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Michael Wert said:
Yes, words like these..... but my reference to love was that Jesus used different words when talking to Peter after the resurrection. My Bible just used the word love.
Alabama's point was that many scholars argue that the use of these different words shouldn't be treated with any significance. The reference to Carson's book is one place where this is discussed.
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Michael Wert said:
I would think there is a list of "most important words" to study or concepts to understand. Nouns, verbs, etc. Looking for some guidance. Example, 3 different words used for “love.” Those concepts that you hit yourself in the head like the commercial “I wish I would have had a V8.” Thanks for any ideas. Mike
A simple start to get you going would be "Holman's Treasury of Key Bible Words" (Available in all base packages). You should, however, be careful and do your own research in order to learn more about the words and not just what the author tells you. Some words are said to have "special" meaning (e.g. Love - Agape) and that's what we've always heard, but when you do a more in-depth study you'll realize that is not the case.
Blessings!
DAL
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Michael Wert said:
Yes, words like these..... but my reference to love was that Jesus used different words when talking to Peter after the resurrection. My Bible just used the word love. Is there a list of words that have different defn with only one English word associated with it.
You can discover this inductively using the Bible Word Study tool. Typing an English word into the box will show you the various Greek or Hebrew words that were translated into the particular English word. Also, even αγαπη (agape), one of the words used for love in John 21, has more than one english words associated with it.
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Michael Wert said:
my reference to love was that Jesus used different words when talking to Peter after the resurrection.
Michael Wert said:Example, 3 different words used for “love.”
There are two Greek words used in John 21:15-19, which are translated "Love" in english: ἀγαπάω (agapaō) and φιλέω (phileō). I have heard sermons on this passage from conservatively no less than 10 pastors who talked about the "3 biblical words for love." The problem, again, is that there isn't 3 words, there are two (in this passage). Furthermore, the pastors want to make a firm distinction between "phileō" (which they call "man's love") and "agapaō" (which they refer to as "God's love."). Carson points out that there are some semantic differences between the two words, but there is large overlap. He also points out that "agapaō" (remember, this is "God's love") "can refer to Amnon’s incestuous rape of his half sister Tamar (2 Sam. 13:15, LXX)."
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Michael Wert said:
Is there a list of words that have different defn with only one English word associated with it.
There's no list (partly because that probably applies to all words in the Bible!). But a Bible Word Study in Logos is a great place to start this study. If you type in an English word (like "love"), the Greek Words section will show you the different Greek words that are translated as 'love', including ἀγαπάω and φιλέω (and the noun ἀγάπη). You can then look up all the times each word is used, and see for yourself if there are differences between them.
The Bible Word Study would also prompt you to run a Sermon Starter Guide on 'love', which you'll find particularly helpful, I'm sure, particularly in the "Thematic Outlines" section.
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Yes! I was looking for something like this. Thanks
But to the others reading this.... I had the "V8 moment" when listening to a sermon 35-40 years ago. Maybe I am asking what was your moment when the spirit enlightened you. This is not the forum to be asking this question. I guess I was looking for a book or technique that would help in that respect. I will be attending a precept class this summer and maybe that is what I am looking for.
Thanks for everyone’s comments.
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