Requesting user feedback: Send to Kindle feature

Development is considering implementing a 'Send to Kindle' feature for resources in your Logos library.
Before investing a significant amount of time on this item, we would like to assess user interest based on the fact that this feature would not support sending notes/highlights to or receiving notes/highlights from Kindle devices/apps (which is mentioned in the UserVoice request for this item).
Please let us know if you would still be interested in seeing this feature.
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Tonya J Ross said:
Please let us know if you would still be interested in seeing this feature.
I would be interested, especially if I could acquire a paperwhite during a black friday sale. Let me know and I will start saving my pennies. [:D]
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Tonya J Ross said:
this feature would not support sending notes/highlights to or receiving notes/highlights from Kindle devices/apps
I think it is important to highlight this portion of your post. I think many users might get so excited they won't get past your first sentence. [:P]
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Tonya J Ross said:
Please let us know if you would still be interested in seeing this feature.
Oh my. I am absolutely 100% super-interested in this feature. In fact, I spent a good chunk of yesterday exporting a couple of Logos books into html format, converting them to ePubs with Calibre, and then sending them to my Nook.
You'll have gathered from that that I would much prefer it if formats other than Kindle were supported, but I would still use this feature even if only Kindle was supported, because I can use Calibre to convert from Kindle to ePub. The Kindle->ePub bit is a one-click process, so I don't mind doing that. But the Logos->ePub process is a pain because of the 100 page limitation.
If I had one additional request it would be: please make footnotes work, as that's also very difficult with the HTML export I currently use.
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Absolutely! I, like alabama, will start saving for a paperwhite too.Tonya J Ross said:Please let us know if you would still be interested in seeing this feature.
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I would certainly use this feature if it were available!
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This is something I would definitely use. I too have spent time creating word documents of books to be able to have them converted to kindle, most recently some books of the Islamic studies collection. Direct export would be great.
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YES!
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YES!!! If for no other reason than to read Spurgeon on my Kindle. Coping an entire book into Word and then emailing it to my Kindle is a pain. Thanks for your desire to respond to customer requests.
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I would pay money for this feature! My eyes would love to read my books on eInk, just like the Lord God intended.
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Yes!
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YES YES YES!
I have wanted this for a couple of years. I would buy more books from Logos if this feature was implemented.
Jerry
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Yes, I would still like to see this feature. [Y]
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this is my idea too.
2 Peter 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
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what about nook? only kindle?
2 Peter 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
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Yes. I would be very grateful if this feature was added!
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I would really be interested in converting Kindle books to Logos format.
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Josh Hunt said:
I would really be interested in converting Kindle books to Logos format.
Logos wouldn't legally be able to do that, nor would they have any incentive to do so. Making personal books is your best bet.
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Please add this Feature! Sometimes I'll buy a Kindle book over a Logos book, just because it's easier to read on the Kindle app.
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[Y]
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I might use this. I don't have a Kindle, but I use the Kindle app on my Android tablet and my iPod Touch. Last time I checked, the Kindle app was still faster on both of those platforms for turning pages and adjusting settings than the Logos app, so I prefer reading in it.
However it would be a bummer not to be able to sync highlighting.
Better yet, though -- I wish Logos would invest more time and resources into making the mobile apps faster!
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I am interested 100% on this feature.
Blessings in Christ.
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Yes please, Tonya. That would indeed be useful.
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Wow, I thought this would never be considered but YES!
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I think the desktop software is a priority over that:
Rosie Perera said:Better yet, though -- I wish Logos would invest more time and resources into making the mobile apps faster!
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Absolutely, yes! My kindle broke, and I'm still excited about this feature!
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This would be a great enhancement!
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Sending books to Kindle would be a great feature.
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Yes!
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Josh Hunt said:
I would really be interested in converting Kindle books to Logos format.
I know this might be impossible (and is not actually offered) but this direction of conversion makes much more sense to me. I buy Kindle books only if there is no Logos or Vyrso version available. To get them to Logos would be great - but I know it will probably not happen from the obvious reasons [:(]
Bohuslav
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I just realized one thing that sending Logos books to Kindle might solve: the absence of Logos reader on platform like WP8. Since Kindle exists there - we would be able to read the exported books on our WP8 devices. That seams really interesting. So, yes, I am voting for the feature also. [Y]
Bohuslav
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Does Logos want us to pay for internet connections or for books? Isn't an internet connection required? If it is, that really prohibits any use for this feature. The money could instead be used for for example printed matter. Kindle has no advantage over printed matter.
I'll call a couple of GSM operators and see if they still offer charge per megabyte...
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Tonya J Ross said:
Development is considering implementing a 'Send to Kindle' feature for resources in your Logos library.
I would be interested, as my wife uses a Kindle
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Bohuslav Wojnar said:
I know this might be impossible (and is not actually offered) but this direction of conversion makes much more sense to me. I buy Kindle books only if there is no Logos or Vyrso version available. To get them to Logos would be great - but I know it will probably not happen from the obvious reasons
If you don't mind breaking the DRM, it's quite easy to convert from Kindle to Logos, although there are few steps.
- Use Calibre to convert to HTMLz.
- Rename the file to .zip, and extract the contents.
- Use Word to convert from .html to .docx
- Create PB in Logos.
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I would certainly like to see this feature.
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Mark Barnes said:Bohuslav Wojnar said:
I know this might be impossible (and is not actually offered) but this direction of conversion makes much more sense to me. I buy Kindle books only if there is no Logos or Vyrso version available. To get them to Logos would be great - but I know it will probably not happen from the obvious reasons
If you don't mind breaking the DRM, it's quite easy to convert from Kindle to Logos, although there are few steps.
- Use Calibre to convert to HTMLz.
- Rename the file to .zip, and extract the contents.
- Use Word to convert from .html to .docx
- Create PB in Logos.
Thank you Mark. It looks easy but I know usually footnotes and other things make it a headache.
Bohuslav
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Unix said:
Isn't an internet connection required? If it is, that really prohibits any use for this feature. The money could instead be used for for example printed matter. Kindle has no advantage over printed matter.
What are you talking about?
- An internet connect isn't required to read Kindle books… except perhaps to download the resource in the first place, but I'm fairly certain most of us have an internet connection for that. [;)]
- Money used for "printed matter"? [:^)]
- Kindle has "no advantage"? I'm pretty sure my chiropractor would agree with you.
I am an a Mac Fanboy. I would never choose a Kindle over an iPad if I could only choose one. If I could have both, I think I would like having an e-ink reader, if for nothing other than the beach.
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Rosie Perera said:
I don't have a Kindle,
The key benefit to this for most of us is the ability to read Logos resources on an e-Ink display. That's no longer reliably possible, even on rooted devices, as the Logos app/resources need later versions of Android than you get on e-ink displays. I've only recently bought eInk, but I'm a big fan for proper reading.
Rosie Perera said:I wish Logos would invest more time and resources into making the mobile apps faster!
They've resisted that on the desktop, and they'll resist it on mobile, too. By the time they've done it, you'll be on your next Android tablet and you won't need the speed increase.
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Mark Barnes said:
- Use Calibre to convert to HTMLz.
- Rename the file to .zip, and extract the contents.
- Use Word to convert from .html to .docx
- Create PB in Logos.
My workflow is different… I wonder why?
- Use Calibre to convert to .rtf format.
- Open the .rtf format document in Word.
- Edit the document as desired and save as .docx.
- Create PB in Logos.
Is there a reason you use HTMLz?
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Mark Barnes said:
By the time they've done it, you'll be on your next Android tablet and you won't need the speed increase.
Mark, what you mean by that? Is new Android going to use full version of Logos?
Bohuslav
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Bohuslav Wojnar said:
Is new Android going to use full version of Logos?
No.
Bohuslav Wojnar said:Mark, what you mean by that?
I <think> he means that by the time Logos were to spend time optimizing the Android app for older hardware, the newer hardware would make the optimization irrelevant.
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I'm starting to think that people don't realize that an extra internet connection actually costs extra! And, no I don't have internet, I sometimes get to borrow my brother's USB modem GSM broadband. But I can't afford even one internet myself
What kind of internet that an Android tablet require?:
alabama24 said:- An internet connect isn't required to read Kindle books… except perhaps to download the resource in the first place, but I'm fairly certain most of us have an internet connection for that.
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alabama24 said:
Is there a reason you use HTMLz?
Try it and see. I find the conversion is much more faithful to the original (eBook formats are all based on HTML). For example, you'll often get styles in a HTML conversion, which you won't get in RTF. Often, with a few clicks you can edit those styles, and change the 'level' of the style, and therefore get a table of contents. You do sometimes get problems with images (Logos gives you warnings), but that's usually pretty easy to fix just be searching for the images in Word (search for ^g), right-click, choose "Change Picture", and re-select the image with the warning.
The screenshot below shows an RTF source on the left, and a very lightly modified HTMLz source on the right:
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alabama24 said:Bohuslav Wojnar said:
Is new Android going to use full version of Logos?
No.
Bohuslav Wojnar said:Mark, what you mean by that?
I <think> he means that by the time Logos were to spend time optimizing the Android app for older hardware, the newer hardware would make the optimization irrelevant.
Makes sense. Thanks.
Bohuslav
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Unix said:
But I can't afford even one internet myself
You're using the internet. Right now. Downloading a Kindle book will require little internet as reading this thread and posting that message.
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Unix said:
I'm starting to think that people don't realize that an extra internet connection actually costs extra!
Why do you need an "extra" internet connection? Do you not have an internet connection for your computer? Are there not cafe's with free wifi where you live?
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This would be a nice feature and I am sure of value to some, but it would not be that valuable to me. I can print to pdf and read something that way on my iPad etc. as easily as using the Kindle reader. It seems most of my friends can handle pdf as well.
That said, I think the bigger question is, are there other features more important to me than this feature, and that is a more emphatic yes. I think we do ourselves a disservice by just saying yes/no on this one feature, as opposed to being offered a choice of whether we would like feature A or B. Everything is a tradeoff, especially development resources.
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Don Awalt said:
I can print to pdf and read something that way on my iPad etc. as easily as using the Kindle reader. It seems most of my friends can handle pdf as well.
I think you have missed the point. This isn't for iOS or Andrioid users… this is for e-ink Kindle readers. Printing to PDF isn't an option.
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