Morphology Search

R.K.

Hi all,

I'm new to the forums, but have been using logos for quite some time. ... well libronix... I've since upgraded to logos 4. My question pertains to a morphology search, I've read through the existing postings on this and it's not exactly intuitive as it seems the search fields/options change for a given document I'm searching e.g. OpenText vs Lexham syntactic. What I want to do is search the NT greek for the following:

A Verb that is a present active, participle, singular, nominative followed by a verb that is in the perfect passive, indicative. The two words don't necessarily have to be followed one right after another but should be in the same sentence.

An example of this should pull up 1 John 5:1 and John 3:18.

Also, when building a search, do the blocks shown with the little + signs have any bearing on how a search is performed or is it simply a graphical relationship?

Thanks for any help you can provide!

Blessings,

Rich

Mark Barnes

Richard Keith Keller said:

Thanks for any help you can provide

Hi Rich and welcome!

Can I ask you a question of clarification? I'm not sure whether you want a syntax search or a morphology search (you call it a morph search, but then describe a syntax search). For what you want to achieve, a morph search may be all you need — except a morph search searches verses, and you've said you want sentences. If you need sentences, then it will need to be a syntax search, but that's more complex, so I thought I would check first.

Mark Barnes

Here are syntax and morph searches that should give you the results you want. You'll see that the syntax search pulls in more results because Greek sentences often span multiple verses.

Richard Keith Keller said:

Also, when building a search, do the blocks shown with the little + signs have any bearing on how a search is performed or is it simply a graphical relationship?

I wasn't sure what you meant by this, sorry.

Dave Hooton

Richard Keith Keller said:

Also, when building a search, do the blocks shown with the little + signs have any bearing on how a search is performed or is it simply a graphical relationship?

Is this what you mean:-

The plus signs indicate that other elements can be joined to the current element i.e. further graphical relationships can be made.

You can illustrate your case with similar screenshots as per http://wiki.logos.com/Screenshot.

R.K.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492974#Comment_492974

Yeah exactly what I mean.... okay so there's nothing magical that affects the search itself, it's simply showing relationships between elements can be made. 

 

Thanks!

R.K.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492835#Comment_492835

This was great, thanks Mark .... the "morph search" is there a reference guide for the various codes you entered including keywords like "BEFORE"?

Appreciate y'alls help on this!

Rich 

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492991#Comment_492991

Richard Keith Keller said:

the "morph search" is there a reference guide for the various codes you entered including keywords like "BEFORE"?

Welcome [:D]

Wiki => http://wiki.logos.com/Getting_Started_with_Logos#Search includes Tips and links: e.g. => http://wiki.logos.com/Morphological_Search

Keep Smiling [:)]

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/492991#Comment_492991

Richard Keith Keller said:

This was great, thanks Mark .... the "morph search" is there a reference guide for the various codes you entered including keywords like "BEFORE"?

Just type the @ sign in a morph search, and you'll get a dropdown list so you don't need to remember the codes! If you do want to remember them, they're here: http://wiki.logos.com/Morphology_Codes#Logos_Greek_Morphology

If you want to learn searching better (including the keywords), I'd recommend you have a look at http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help