Words Are Beautiful and Interesting

Deacon Steve
Deacon Steve Member Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I have to admit that I am a little disappointed.  I have recollections as a very young teenager, going to the library as a freshman in High School.  I was amazed at all the books in what seemed to be a very large room with a very small second floor loft in the back.  In addition to all the individual volumes I also appreciated the dictionaries of various sorts and encyclopedias from several different publishers.  For some reason I was attracted to lots of information in bite-sized chunks.  ...still has an appeal for me today.  That was a long time ago.

I would have worked a whole summer and then some, overtime, to have a resource like The Century Dictionary.  Not possible back then.

Maybe there are others out there who feel the same.  How about $50?

Smile

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Steve said:

    I have to admit that I am a little disappointed.  I have recollections as a very young teenager, going to the library as a freshman in High School.  I was amazed at all the books in what seemed to be a very large room with a very small second floor loft in the back.  In addition to all the individual volumes I also appreciated the dictionaries of various sorts and encyclopedias from several different publishers.  For some reason I was attracted to lots of information in bite-sized chunks.  ...still has an appeal for me today.  That was a long time ago.

    I would have worked a whole summer and then some, overtime, to have a resource like The Century Dictionary.  Not possible back then.

    Maybe there are others out there who feel the same.  How about $50?

    Smile

    I would encourage support for this CP offering.  It isn't a substitute for the OED since it is somewhat older, but this may be as close as we get to it.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm in for $100. I encourage others to bid for this, maybe half as much. I know $50 is a lot for a dictionary, but what a dictionary it is! Yes, we will probably never get the OED, but that's probably the closest comparison to the value of this dictionary. The CD-ROM version of that will set you back about $200.

    Here's my plug from a while back for why you should bid on this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/26356/194390.aspx. The only thing I'd change about it is bid at least $50. It won't go into production if people bid much less than that, because it's got to be enormously expensive to produce.

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Yes, we will probably never get the OED, but that's probably the closest comparison to the value of this dictionary. The CD-ROM version of that will set you back about $200.

    And if you purchase the CD ROM, it wouldn't link to your Logos resources.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, we will probably never get the OED, but that's probably the closest comparison to the value of this dictionary. The CD-ROM version of that will set you back about $200.

    And if you purchase the CD ROM, it wouldn't link to your Logos resources.

    And you'd have to dig up the CD-ROM and reinstall it each time you upgraded to a new machine. And it might not run on future versions of Windows (Vista was current at the time it was released). And you won't have access to it from your portable devices. And on and on. So many reasons why the Logos version of Century Dictionary will be much better, even if it doesn't have neologisms like Internet in it.

    And guess what! You can't even order the OED CD-ROM from OUP anymore. I think it's obsolete already. See http://public.oed.com/about/the-oed-in-print-and-on-cd-rom/buy-the-oed-on-cd-rom/ and try to click on the Order Online link. Ha ha!

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • David Bailey
    David Bailey Member Posts: 654 ✭✭

    Unless a new English dictionary has words such as "LOL","Google" or "supercomputing", I won't consider purchasing it. If the dictionary has extensive etymologies, however, I would consider it.  [:)]

    David

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Unless a new English dictionary has words such as "LOL","Google" or "supercomputing", I won't consider purchasing it. If the dictionary has extensive etymologies, however, I would consider it.  Smile

    David

    If you note the product page, it says "Edited by Sanskrit scholar and linguist William Dwight Whitney …"  This doesn't necessarily mean there are extensive etymologies in the work, I would be surprised if there aren't.  Note that in his A Greek Grammar in the Light of Historical Research AT Robertson frequently mentions the Sanskrit background.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,157

    I just raised my bid with the hope that others will do the same and get this moving.

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  • Joseph Turner
    Joseph Turner Member Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭

    I replied to Rosie's thread in order to bring it back to the top since its title is more likely to help people know what the thread is about, and hopefully to spark interest.  That is not to reflect negatively on the title of this thread.  I linked that thread to this one in my post.  I am in at $50.

    Disclaimer:  I hate using messaging, texting, and email for real communication.  If anything that I type to you seems like anything other than humble and respectful, then I have not done a good job typing my thoughts.

  • Randy W. Sims
    Randy W. Sims Member Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭

    I've bumped mine up from $50 to $100. Hoping it goes for/under $80, though.

    I would also love to have the OED in Logos. I've got the much smaller 2 vol SOED on my shelf and have always dreamed of having the complete OED.

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    I would also love to have the OED in Logos. I've got the much smaller 2 vol SOED on my shelf and have always dreamed of having the complete OED.

    I used to have a 2 vol OED which came with a microscope magnifying glass to read.  Quite a work.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Randy W. Sims
    Randy W. Sims Member Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭

    Ha. I remember that. Although I seem to remember a version of it as a single oversized volume. I tried it out in the bookstore for a bit (Oxford Books, Atlanta, one of the few places to carry works like that, which has long since closed[:'(]), but it was like trying to read microfiche without the reader. That's too much work for me.. I'm lazy!

  • Bruce Roth
    Bruce Roth Member Posts: 328 ✭✭

    Here is an online site that has the ability to look up a word and return the page from the dictionary. If you don't have or don't want the plugin, you can view it as a jpeg file.

    http://www.global-language.com/CENTURY/

  • David P. Moore
    David P. Moore Member Posts: 610 ✭✭

    I used to have a 2 vol OED which came with a microscope magnifying glass to read.  Quite a work.

    I still have mine! I keep it in the living room as a conversation piece, but come to think of it, nobody has ever engaged me in conversation about it!

    Working in a library, I'm lucky to have access to oed.com

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would also love to have the OED in Logos. I've got the much smaller 2 vol SOED on my shelf and have always dreamed of having the complete OED.

    I used to have a 2 vol OED which came with a microscope magnifying glass to read.  Quite a work.

    I grew up with one of those in the house. My mother got it as the enticement for joining Book-of-the-Month Club. I was able to find a used copy of it years later and now own it too, though I haven't referred to it in years, because I have online access to the OED through my educational institution.

  • David Bailey
    David Bailey Member Posts: 654 ✭✭

    How about getting this into Logos?

    The Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology

    The dictionary entries could be linked to Latin, Greek, and Hebrew resources in your library.

    [:)]

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about getting this into Logos?

    The Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology

    The dictionary entries could be linked to Latin, Greek, and Hebrew resources in your library.

    Smile

    Great idea. You need to post that over in the Suggestions forum or it won't get picked up by Logos as a resource suggestion.

  • Deacon Steve
    Deacon Steve Member Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭

    How about getting this into Logos?

    The Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology

    The dictionary entries could be linked to Latin, Greek, and Hebrew resources in your library.

    [Y]

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Just upped my bid to $50. I might go higher later.

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Just upped my bid to $50. I might go higher later.

    Unfortunately, the increased $50 bids don't seem to be having much effect.  We need more suckers, umm, bidders. 

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Just upped my bid to $50. I might go higher later.

    Matthew!   *smile*

                 How can I not join you?          I must!    Indeed!                     Just raised mine to $50 and also might go higher later if necessary!

    My old bid of $30 goes back to 2011 - September - however, I see a "jump" in the diagram and am encouraged ....

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  • Deacon Steve
    Deacon Steve Member Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭

    We need more suckers, umm, bidders. 

    Gosh George.  Dictionaries are fun ... especially old ones.  [:)]

    How about a big thumbs up?  (No line-throughs.) 

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Steve said:

    We need more suckers, umm, bidders. 

    Gosh George.  Dictionaries are fun ... especially old ones.  Smile

    How about a big thumbs up?  (No line-throughs.) 

    I really do favor getting this over the line.  I just enjoy injecting a little humor into things.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Deacon Steve
    Deacon Steve Member Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭
  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Steve said:

    We need more suckers, umm, bidders. 

    Gosh George.  Dictionaries are fun ... especially old ones.  Smile

    How about a big thumbs up?  (No line-throughs.) 

    I really do favor getting this over the line.  I just enjoy injecting a little humor into things.

    Using the subjunctive in English, George!   (Very rare indeed!)

                 Were you to spell the word humor properly -- humour! -- your e-mail would be far more graciously received by me!      *smile*

    Blessings, George!

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  • Kevin Maples
    Kevin Maples Member Posts: 808 ✭✭

    If you all do not stop persuading me to bid on CPs, I'm going to be looking for a second job when all of these items come out of development. [:)] I'm in. 

  • Deacon Steve
    Deacon Steve Member Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭

    If you all do not stop persuading me to bid on CPs, I'm going to be looking for a second job when all of these items come out of development. Smile I'm in. 

    Hang in there ... we'll figure it out!!!  Things may slip a little here-and-there between the credit card billing cycle!!!  Plus one month, minus the next.

    We are all there with you!!! 

    [:)]   

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    If you all do not stop persuading me to bid on CPs, I'm going to be looking for a second job when all of these items come out of development. Smile I'm in. 

    Hey, Kevin, how about … and … and …   [:D]  Happy job hunting.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    If you all do not stop persuading me to bid on CPs, I'm going to be looking for a second job when all of these items come out of development. Smile I'm in. 

    Or, you could eat ramen noodles & hotdogs, sell your classic cars, turn off the air conditioner, sell your guitars, buy clothes at the thrift store, get your hair cut by your wife, skip vacation......       It worked for me. [:D]

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  • Jonathan Pitts
    Jonathan Pitts Member Posts: 670 ✭✭
    TCBlack said:

    I'm in. 

    But I still want the OED. Yes

    It is worth checking if your local public library has access to the Oxford English Dictionary. Many do. I can log in to oed.com via my county library's website. It's free.

    The website is continually updated. Although it would convenient to have in Logos, you wouldn't have the latest version.

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    TCBlack said:

    I'm in. 

    But I still want the OED. Yes

    It is worth checking if your local public library has access to the Oxford English Dictionary. Many do. I can log in to oed.com via my county library's website. It's free.

    The website is continually updated. Although it would convenient to have in Logos, you wouldn't have the latest version.

    True, but how often do we need "the latest version"?  Every 5-10 years should be sufficient.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן