How to find pangrams ... if we're OT on word play

MJ. Smith

או הנסה אלהים, לבוא לקחת לו גוי מקרב גוי, במסת באתת ובמופתים ובמלחמה וביד חזקה ובזרוע נטויה, ובמוראים גדלים: ככל אשר-עשה לכם יהוה אלהיכם, במצרים—לעיניך (Deuteronomy 4:34)
לכן חכו לי נאם יהוה ליום קומי לעד, כי משפטי לאסף גוים לקבצי ממלכות, לשפך עליהם זעמי כל חרון אפי, כי באש קנאתי תאכל כל הארץ (Zephaniah 3:8)

Okay, how do I find them in Greek - LXX or NT?

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Rosie Perera

Write a pangram script in PHP. See http://huco.ualberta.ca/~hquamen/courses/huco520/Huco_520_Syllabus_(2012).pdf

BillS

Write a pangram script in PHP. See http://huco.ualberta.ca/~hquamen/courses/huco520/Huco_520_Syllabus_(2012).pdf

Looks like Martha could get course credit if she did, but where's the algorithm to encode it? That's actually at the heart of the course assignment... I had fun reading the link, Rosie, but unless I missed something her answer isn't really there. [:D]

Blessings!

Rosie Perera

Looks like Martha could get course credit if she did, but where's the algorithm to encode it? That's actually at the heart of the course assignment... I had fun reading the link, Rosie, but unless I missed something her answer isn't really there.

Of course they're not going to give away the algorithm in a course syllabus; that's the assignment. I was merely including the link to prove that such a thing can be done. The answer is left as an exercise for the reader. [:)]

George Somsel

או הנסה אלהים, לבוא לקחת לו גוי מקרב גוי, במסת באתת ובמופתים ובמלחמה וביד חזקה ובזרוע נטויה, ובמוראים גדלים: ככל אשר-עשה לכם יהוה אלהיכם, במצרים—לעיניך (Deuteronomy 4:34)

לכן חכו לי נאם יהוה ליום קומי לעד, כי משפטי לאסף גוים לקבצי ממלכות, לשפך עליהם זעמי כל חרון אפי, כי באש קנאתי תאכל כל הארץ (Zephaniah 3:8)

Okay, how do I find them in Greek - LXX or NT?

Simplicity itself! Open BHS and the LXX then link them. When you find it in BHS, you also find it in the LXX.

BillS

Simplicity itself! Open BHS and the LXX then link them. When you find it in BHS, you also find it in the LXX.

Hi George,

As you say, that'd pick up the verses where Hebrew pangrams occurred in the BHS. Most likely, however, those verses would NOT be pangrams in the Greek text. How would this pick up LXX Greek verses where (if?) translators had played with the translation from Hebrew so as to create a Greek pangram whether or not it exists in the Hebrew?

[:)]

BillS

MJ,

I wonder if it'd be possible to list each letter of the Greek (or Hebrew) alphabet in a search string, separated by spaces (which I understand to mean
"a AND b AND c AND d....."), & have that act as the search string you're looking for? Search gurus--would this work?

BillS

MJ,

I wonder if it'd be possible to list each letter of the Greek (or Hebrew) alphabet in a search string, separated by spaces (which I understand to mean
"a AND b AND c AND d....."), & have that act as the search string you're looking for? Search gurus--would this work?

MJ,

I just tried it in a whole library search in English & got several hits that looked like it had correctly found places where the entire alphabet occurred... Also keyed in a TEST note with text "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" and it found that....

Should work in Greek?

Rosie Perera

OT, but here's a great list of English pangrams:

http://robbie.com/pangramlist.pdf

Some (such as "Emily Q. Jung-Schwartzkopf XV, B.D.") are perfect pangrams, where each letter of the alphabet is used precisely once.

I wonder if there are any Greek sentences that meet that criterion? It would be harder to find those. And kind of pointless.

Oh well, back to doing real work...