Greek Audio is Awesome - ἅγιος ἅγιος ἅγιος!
Try listening to Rev 4:8b in Greek. I had to listen over and over. It is so cool! It just rolls off the tongue.
- First you need the audio package.
- If you don't have it, get it here: http://www.logos.com/product/4207/greek-audio-new-testament
- Open NA27 or something like that.
- Find Rev 4:8
- Ctr+R starts the reading.
I follow the little dot that highlights words like a kitten following a laser dot on the floor, but the listening experience is what is really fun.
ἅγιος ἅγιος ἅγιος κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὁ παντοκράτωρ,
ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ὢν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος.
ἅγιος ἅγιος ἅγιος!
I am going to go listen a couple more times now.
Can anyone suggest any other equally cool-sounding passages?
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Thanks for the reminder to use this resource. It does sound great.
Since I use the NA28 almost all of the time I tried it there but wondered why it didn't work. Then I realized that the resource doesn't work with it. I wonder if there are any plans to also make the Greek audio compatible with NA 28 since this is the most up to date Greek text.
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Awesome indeed!
What I do is record a verse from the Logos Greek audio New Testament in mp3 format. (I use Total Recorder to record it, but any sound recording program will do fine.) Then I Dropbox it to my iPhone's music folder, and listen to it over and over for a week in order to memorize it. Helps me memorize my favorite verses in the Greek New Testament. I find it very much uplifting.
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Michael Childs said:
Awesome indeed!
What I do is record a verse from the Logos Greek audio New Testament in mp3 format. (I use Total Recorder to record it, but any sound recording program will do fine.) Then I Dropbox it to my iPhone's music folder, and listen to it over and over for a week in order to memorize it. Helps me memorize my favorite verses in the Greek New Testament. I find it very much uplifting.
Great idea. I think I might try that.
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NA 28 works fine for me.
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Gao Lu said:
NA 28 works fine for me.
Seriously? Ctr R works fine for me with NA 27 but not NA 28. Logos' description of the resource is listed here and note that NA 28 is not listed as one of the resources that works with it - https://www.logos.com/product/4207/greek-audio-new-testament Here is what the website says...
What Resources Work with the Greek Audio New Testament in Logos?
- Nestle Aland 26th Edition Greek New Testament Morphological Edition
- Nestle Aland 26th Edition Greek New Testament with McReynolds English Interlinear
- *Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament, 27th Edition
- *Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament, 27th Edition with McReynolds English Interlinear
- Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament, 27th Edition, without Morphology
- *Analytical Greek New Testament
- *The Greek New Testament, Fourth Revised Edition (Interlinear with Morphology)
- *The Greek New Testament, Fourth Revised Edition (with Morphology)
- *The Swanson New Testament Greek Morphology (UBS 4th Edition)
- *The Swanson New Testament Greek Morphology (Westcott-Hort Edition)
- 1881 Westcott-Hort Greek New Testament
- Westcott and Hort Greek New Testament (1881) With Morphology
- The New Testament in the Original Greek: Byzantine Textform 2005
- Byzantine/Majority Textform Greek New Testament
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Dead serious.
I know NA28 is not on the list, but on my computer it works just dandy.
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I hear this every Sunday! [;)]
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Gao Lu said:
Dead serious.
I know NA28 is not on the list, but on my computer it works just dandy.
Okay, I will bite. How do I make NA 28 work on my computer? What's your secret?
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Gao Lu said:
Dead serious. I know NA28 is not on the list, but on my computer it works just dandy.
Gabe Martini said:I hear this every Sunday!
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That is strange? what am I missing? I am certain that I have the Greek Audio New Testament
On NA28 no option for Read Aloud ...
LLS:NA28 2013-06-03T23:39:16Z NA28.logos4
On NA27 I can do Read Aloud
LLS:LOGOSNA27 2013-04-16T14:21:35Z LOGOSNA27.logos4
JK
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OK. Now you are going to be really impressed.
1. NA27 and NA28 both read aloud on my desktop.
2. Only NA27 reads aloud on my laptop.
No, I am not crazy and no I can't explain it. Some things we have to accept by faith.
Here is a screenshot from my desktop (not photoshopped) and the dialog box is from NA28
LLS:NA28
2013-06-03T23:39:16Z
NA28.logos4
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I wondered if I forgot and was running beta on my desktop, thereby gaining some advantage but I am apparently not running beta on either machine.
Both machines are: Logos Bible Software 5.1 SR-2 (5.1.0.0963)
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Gao,
Can you go to the NA28 Information page, can we compare the na28 version? Mine is LLS:NA28 2013-06-03T23:39:16Z NA28.logos4.
Thanks.
JK
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Running out of idea.
I have forced a download of NA28 by hiding and unhiding the resource. I went further to Rebuild Bible Index ... still no Greek Audio NT for NA28.
JK
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LimJK said:Gabe Martini said:
I hear this every Sunday!
That is strange? what am I missing? I am certain that I have the Greek Audio New Testament
On NA28 no option for Read Aloud ...
Gabe wasn't talking about the NA28. He was responding to the OP's exclamation about how cool it was to hear ἅγιος ἅγιος ἅγιος in Greek. He goes to a Greek Orthodox church (in fact he's a subdeacon, if I remember correctly), and it's part of the Liturgy.
As for the NA28, I believe I saw a post by a Logos employee (Rick?) at the time it was released, saying it should work for the parts that are the same as NA27, but not, naturally, for the parts that have changed. Doesn't seem to work for me now, though (haven't tried before). And, yes, I have the same file. Could it be that it works on Windows, but not on Mac?
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fgh said:
Could it be that it works on Windows, but not on Mac?
I have windows and it still doesn't work. I would really love to see the read aloud feature on my NA 28 like Gao Lu.
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Both of my computers are PC's.
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Gao Lu said:
Both of my computers are PC's.
I really would like to know what you have done or are doing that makes it work for you but nobody else. [:S]
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LimJK said:
Gao,
Can you go to the NA28 Information page, can we compare the na28 version? Mine is LLS:NA28 2013-06-03T23:39:16Z NA28.logos4.
Thanks.
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2013-06-03T23:39:16Z
NA28.logos4I wish I could tell you what is different. I don't know. I can't understand why it is different on my two computers. I have begun to question my own mind and have gotten some strange looks from my wife for repeatedly re-playing Greek passages. I choose different passages for variety, but they all sound the same to her. Anyway, I have double checked multiple times. It really does work! I haven't tried passages where NA27 and NA28 differ--off-hand I am not sure where that would be...
OK...I just looked it up and tried it. Here are the results:
NA27 reads the old text correctly according to NA27
NA28 reads the revised texts correctly--according to the NA28 revisions.
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Mine also works on NA28, even on the verse that is listed as being different (per the document from Gao)
[edit: here's a recording of James 1:20 2626.Memo.m4a]
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Now if we could just get the NT recorded in the real Koine Greek pronunciation! Anything would be better than the made up Erasmian system http://www.biblicalgreek.org/grammar/images/PRONSYS1%25202005.pdf.
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Keith Larson said:
Now if we could just get the NT recorded in the real Koine Greek pronunciation! Anything would be better than the made up Erasmian system http://www.biblicalgreek.org/grammar/images/PRONSYS1%25202005.pdf.
Agreed. I think it would be great to have a native (modern) Greek speaker do the narration. There's at least one Greek Orthodox church in Bellingham. Somebody there is likely to be able to read Biblical Greek with a 'recordable' voice. If not, surely one could be found somewhere.
The sample made me cringe, and made my decision to not buy this resource very easy. (I've heard Americans speak Spanish like that; the pain is almost physical - and Spanish is my second language.) I've also heard Biblical Greek spoken in a Greek Orthodox church (and, I'll admit in the baptism and wedding ceremonies in My Big Fat Greek Wedding). That Greek sounds authentic, though it would require some 'ear training' to catch all the words.
Perhaps this audio version serves the purpose of making the sounds of the common American or English pronunciation scheme more accessible to the average student of classroom Biblical Greek. But I would be interested in hearing the NT spoken as if it were a language people used to communicate with each other on a daily basis. A native modern Greek speaker is probably the closest we can have today, but it would likely be a lot closer than the classroom Greek in this audio.
Logos produced resources are usually awesome. This one, even if it does serve a valuable, though limited, purpose, is not as good as it could be. Logos can do better and I wish they would.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Keith Larson said:
Now if we could just get the NT recorded in the real Koine Greek pronunciation! Anything would be better than the made up Erasmian system http://www.biblicalgreek.org/grammar/images/PRONSYS1%25202005.pdf.
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Listening to an audio version of the Modern Greek NT, I was struck by how it actually sounds like somebody recounting a story, or engaging in discourse.
The Greek Audio is awesome for learning individual words (hence ἅγιος ἅγιος ἅγιος) or for internalizing whole verses, but I really long for that extra oomph.
Of course, it could be that the pronunciation and cadence were deliberately steady (wooden) so that the computer can piece sound bites together depending on the text.
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I listened to a sample from the comment section on the product page and there was a little arrow following along..... is this the way the product works? Is there a way to see where you are?
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Gao Lu said:
I have begun to question my own mind and have gotten some strange looks from my wife for repeatedly re-playing Greek passages. I choose different passages for variety, but they all sound the same to her.
I can totally visualize that. [:)]
Gao Lu said:Anyway, I have double checked multiple times. It really does work! I haven't tried passages where NA27 and NA28 differ--off-hand I am not sure where that would be...
Well I'm happy that it does work for you and optimistic that it could work for me. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable might help us out. Maybe someone official from Logos? [*-)]
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Gao Lu said:
1. NA27 and NA28 both read aloud on my desktop.
2. Only NA27 reads aloud on my laptop.
No, I am not crazy and no I can't explain it. Some things we have to accept by faith.
Here is a screenshot from my desktop (not photoshopped) and the dialog box is from NA28
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NA28.logos4Gao,
since you have the same Logos version and the same resource version on both your machines, could it be an OS issue that Logos developers need to adress to make NA28 play along? Want to share some of your specs?
E.g. NA28 Read Aloud doesn't run on my Win7 32 bit Hope Premium laptop (OS installed in German language), while NA27 etc. does.
Others where it works/doesn't?
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I'm experiencing a wierd behaviour regarding this. First my Dell desktop at work running Logos 5 latest stable release and updates reads NA28 just fine like I posted before. However my hp laptop at home running basically the same thing does not allow the read-aloud on NA28. If I force it using the read aloud command, the software crashes! I think this is something that Logos has to look into!
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Sleiman said:
my Dell desktop at work running Logos 5 latest stable release and updates reads NA28 just fine like I posted before. However my hp laptop at home running basically the same thing does not allow the read-aloud on NA28
What OS versions do they run?
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My Dell which has the working read-aloud runs Windows 7 Pro 64-bit. My hp laptop where it doesn't work runs Windows 8 Pro 64-bit
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Here's another observation. Logos on my Surface Pro also crashes when I attempt read-aloud. And one more observation: Both my Surface pro and Laptop have been updated by Logos to 5.1; while Logos on my computer Bell desktop was recently installed. I don't know if these differences matter.
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Sleiman said:
Mine also works on NA28, even on the verse that is listed as being different (per the document from Gao)
[edit: here's a recording of James 1:20 2626.Memo.m4a]
Well, it does NOT work on my NA28. Are you sure that is what is happening?
Do you have any other Greek text open on your computer when playing audio from Greek Audio NT? If so, would you mind closing all other Greek texts, and see if it NA28 still has audio? Thanks.
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No Michael I did not have any Greek test apart from the NA28 open. I remember that I paid particular attention that it was the only open resource. It was on my desktop at the office so I can't test again right now.Michael Childs said:Do you have any other Greek text open on your computer when playing audio from Greek Audio NT? If so, would you mind closing all other Greek texts, and see if it NA28 still has audio? Thanks.
By the way, out of curiosity, if you do try to force it by typing "Start Reading Aloud" in the command box, does it simply not work or does it CRASH the program?
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Sleiman said:
No Michael I did not have any Greek test apart from the NA28 open. I remember that I paid particular attention that it was the only open resource. It was on my desktop at the office so I can't test again right now.Michael Childs said:Do you have any other Greek text open on your computer when playing audio from Greek Audio NT? If so, would you mind closing all other Greek texts, and see if it NA28 still has audio? Thanks.
By the way, out of curiosity, if you do try to force it by typing "Start Reading Aloud" in the command box, does it simply not work or does it CRASH the program?
I was wondering the same thing Michael. Something strange is going on. This is worth pursuing if there is any way that we can get the NA 28 to actually read aloud!
By the way Sleiman, when I typed those words in Logos it crashed which is crazy because this is the first time L5 has crashed for me.
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Desktop (NA27 & NA28 read aloud)
Dell Studio XPS 9100
Intel i7 960 3.2 GHz
12 GB Ram
Logos on HD
OS Win 8 64 bit English
Laptop (NA27 reads aloud - NA29 NA28 does not)
Asuz G75VW
Intel i7 3630 QM 2.4 GHz
16 GB Ram
Logos on SSD
OS Win 8 64 bit English
Single Gk text or multiple Gk Texts on the laptop make no difference.
I am not having the crashing problem.
(Well I did crash for the first in in a long time yesterday while trying to print an image of an ancient Israelite House: logosres:fsbinfographics;art=firstcenturyisraelitehouse -- which is a really cool image--but the crash was probably unrelated to reading Gk!)
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Correction:
On the Laptop with NA28 open with focus, when I type "start Reading Aloud" in the command box, Logos DOES crash.
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Oops! [:O] NA28. NA 28 is enough "launch" for me at the moment.
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Gao Lu said:
Correction:
On the Laptop with NA28 open with focus, when I type "start Reading Aloud" in the command box, Logos DOES crash.
So you are having the same issue that others are facing. My crash was also on a laptop. I wonder why your desktop doesn't crash and actually works.
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So if nothing else, this is at least a reproducible bug which Logos should fix.Bruce Dunning said:Gao Lu said:Correction:
On the Laptop with NA28 open with focus, when I type "start Reading Aloud" in the command box, Logos DOES crash.
So you are having the same issue that others are facing. My crash was also on a laptop. I wonder why your desktop doesn't crash and actually works.
Now why it works on my and Gao's desktops is a conundrum! Gao, just a curious question: on your desktop did you install Logos recently or was it there since before Logos 5.1 and got updated?
Didn't the 5.1 release include some enhancements to the Read Aloud feature? Not an expert but this might have something to do with it.
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Interesting question:
I had a hard drive failure on the Desktop a about a month ago and was able to repair it just fine, but I did install Logos complete and fresh. The repair coincided with 5.1 release so it is possible that the Desktop (NA28 Read Aloud works) was not a 5.1 upgrade but an initial 5.1 install. But I am not 100% sure.
The Laptop install (NA28 Read Aloud does NOT work) was about 6 months ago and would have included a 5.1 upgrade.
Just FYI: I am not presently using beta versions.
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Thot I'd try NA28 read aloud before I went to bed ...
Loaded ONLY NA28 ... typed Start Reading Aloud in command box ..
Logos 5.1 crashed ... Peace to all!
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Sleiman said:
By the way, out of curiosity, if you do try to force it by typing "Start Reading Aloud" in the command box, does it simply not work or does it CRASH the program?
If I try to force it by typing "Start Reading Aloud" for NA28, Logos crashes.
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Michael Childs said:Sleiman said:
By the way, out of curiosity, if you do try to force it by typing "Start Reading Aloud" in the command box, does it simply not work or does it CRASH the program?
If I try to force it by typing "Start Reading Aloud" for NA28, Logos crashes.
+1 crash replication in NA28 on Windows 7 and OS X.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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+1 crash replication in NA28 on Windows 7 and OS X.
I put a thread into the beta forum with logs: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/73277.aspx
Maybe some of you who experience this crash as well could add your logs here or there to help Logos to find and fix the bug.
Thanks, Mick
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Good morning Michael. Just thought of getting back to you on this. Now, in the office, I tried it again with only the NA28 open and I can confirm that it has audio and works fine.Michael Childs said:Do you have any other Greek text open on your computer when playing audio from Greek Audio NT? If so, would you mind closing all other Greek texts, and see if it NA28 still has audio? Thanks
Thanks Mick. Check out this thread from yesterday in the Logos 5 forum as well.NB.Mick said:I put a thread into the beta forum with logs: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/73277.aspx
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DO I OWN IT OR NOT
I cant find in my library when use keyword "Greek audio". When I clicked on the link on the web, it says I dont own
When I click on Biblical Language collection, it says I own it
So do i own it or not? Is it included in Biblical language collection?
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Wild Eagle said:
So do i own it or not? Is it included in Biblical language collection?
If you own Biblical Languages I believe you own it. Check in your library to confirm.
This title is included as a part of the following collections.
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$749.95
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Sleiman said:
Good morning Michael. Just thought of getting back to you on this. Now, in the office, I tried it again with only the NA28 open and I can confirm that it has audio and works fine.Michael Childs said:Do you have any other Greek text open on your computer when playing audio from Greek Audio NT? If so, would you mind closing all other Greek texts, and see if it NA28 still has audio? Thanks
Well, clearly we need to find why and how NA28 works with the Greek Audio New Testament for you, but not for many others. All of us would like to get it working for us, too. Appreciate you making us aware of that. It would be nice if Logos could help us out with this.
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I found the reason; it is grayed out because I cant buy this resource. When I place a mouse the message pops up and says "You must be a student to purchase this product". Is this package available to students only???? I would like to upgrade because I own logos 4 Platinum, but cant find a price for Biblical language
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Sleiman said:
Thanks Mick. Check out this thread from yesterday in the Logos 5 forum as well.NB.Mick said:I put a thread into the beta forum with logs: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/73277.aspx
Thanks, I will post as reply there, too.
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I agree. The only [possible relevant] differences between the working audio at my work desktop and the non-working audio at my home laptop and Surface are the following:Michael Childs said:Well, clearly we need to find why and how NA28 works with the Greek Audio New Testament for you, but not for many others. All of us would like to get it working for us, too. Appreciate you making us aware of that. It would be nice if Logos could help us out with this.
Difference 1 - Desktop vs laptop and tablet (I don't personally think this is relevant but you never know whether the audio driver support has anything to do with it)
Difference 2 - Operating system; but this also seems irrelevant because of the different OS of users who reported the crash.
Difference 3 - Fresh install of Logos 5.1 on the machine with working audio vs a 5.1 update on the machines with broken audio. (Gao also reported that his situation is similar.) This is the only possible culprit I can see so far.
I have still one more computer in my basement (no Logos) that I can test this theory on. When I get home later tonight, I'll download and install Logos 5 on it and then test it. If it works, then I'll be sure that it has to do with update vs fresh install.
Other than that, God only knows (and Logos maybe)
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