Every time I click on a Density Graph the resulting Graph Bible Search Results window is ALWAYS blank, no matter which of the four display modes are selected.
I do not have this trouble. Which version of Logos 4 are you using?
That is also what I am using. I can't explain why you would be getting nothing. Has this been a problem for awhile? Maybe a reboot wouldd clear up some underlying problem?
I'm using SR-7, too, and I get the same problem. I noticed that both Otto and I have nothing after the word "in" at the top of our Graph Bible Search Results panel, but you, Mark have the name of the Bible that was searched in. If I click on the little dropdown arrow there, my list is completely empty. Otto, how about you?
Now I realized that I'd done the original search in my Top Bibles not just in one Bible. So I went back and changed that and searched in just NASB95, and it fixed the problem! Graphs all work fine now. However the drop-down only shows NASB95 (or whatever version I do the search in) and the checkbox there is greyed out.
I suspect this is a feature that is not fully implemented. You ought to be able to select a different version from that drop down and turn on/off checkboxes in it or else why is it there?
UPDATE: The "Export to Excel" button also does nothing for me. I wonder what the deal is there? Others have reported using it. Mark, does it work for you?
I just realized that the "Export to Excel" button does do something. Excel happened to be open already on my machine, so Logos didn't appear to be doing anything. But it did, and it did the wrong thing. It added a new sheet to an existing workbook I had open (one that had nothing to do with Bible study). That's goofy. It should create a new Excel document and not clutter up my Christmas card list with its output. [^o)]
Has this been a problem for awhile?
Yes...I noticed it soon after I first installed the software; I assumed it was something I was doing wrong at the time. However, I've been working through the MP Training Guides and saw that this feature should work by just clicking the Density Graph.
I'm running Windows 7 as a virtual machine using VMware Fusion 3.0.1 (1 CPU / 3 GB RAM).
I'm using SR-7, too, and I get the same problem. I noticed that both Otto and I have nothing after the word "in" at the top of our Graph Bible Search Results panel, but you, Mark have the name of the Bible that was searched in. If I click on the little dropdown arrow there, my list is completely empty. Otto, how about you? Now I realized that I'd done the original search in my Top Bibles not just in one Bible. So I went back and changed that and searched in just NASB95, and it fixed the problem! Graphs all work fine now. However the drop-down only shows NASB95 (or whatever version I do the search in) and the checkbox there is greyed out. I suspect this is a feature that is not fully implemented. You ought to be able to select a different version from that drop down and turn on/off checkboxes in it or else why is it there? I suspect this is a feature that is not fully implemented. You ought to be able to select a different version from that drop down and turn on/off checkboxes in it or else why is it there? UPDATE: The "Export to Excel" button also does nothing for me. I wonder what the deal is there? Others have reported using it. Mark, does it work for you?
Hi Rosie,
My drop down box is also empty. And I do not have an "Export toExcel" button, as shown in Mark's screen shot. I generated a Bible WordStudy by right-clicking on a word from the NASB95 (my default Bible)> Selection (or Lemma) > Bible Word Study. After the report is generated,clicking on the Density Graphs under Hebrew Words and Greek Words givesme the blank Graph Bible Search Results page I posted. From that page,I can't determined if only my default Bible (NASB95) is being searchedor my top 5.
My drop down box is also empty. And I do not have an "Export to Excel" button, as shown in Mark's screen shot.
I didn't have the "Export to Excel" button initially, but after I fixed it so I was only doing the Graph Bible Search Results from one version I did.
I generated a Bible Word Study by right-clicking on a word from the NASB95 (my default Bible) > Selection (or Lemma) > Bible Word Study. After the report is generated, clicking on the Density Graphs under Hebrew Words and Greek Words gives me the blank Graph Bible Search Results page I posted. From that page, I can't determined if only my default Bible (NASB95) is being searched or my top 5.
Very puzzling. I tried doing exactly what you described and it worked for me. Do the headers of the Hebrew Words and Greek Words sections in your Bible Word Study guide show NASB95 in grey on them? Does the Density Graph you clicked on show multiple bars with different colors and a number of hits at the left end of it? And if you hover over that Density Graph, does the book name represented by that colored bar pop up, with number of hits in that book in parentheses? My answer is yes to all of those questions. If yours is too, and you still are getting a blank Graph, then it's time for a call to Logos Support, I think.
The answer to all questions is "Yes."
It does not appear that Otto's original search returned values to be graphed. If Otto could provide a screen shot both of the search results and the graph we might be able to track down the problem.
Example:
The lack of a book name in which the search was done leads me this direction.
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Mark and I both have that functionality and we're using SR-7.
Yes, there'd been a change I'd failed to note mentally - I'd actually pulled my post before your response was posted.
Otto is not getting to this graph through the Search function, as I had originally been doing when I was able to reproduce his results. He writes:
Otto is not getting to this graph through the Search function, as I had originally been doing when I was able to reproduce his results.
Without results from the Search function - regardless of his path - the diagrams cannot logically be generated. There were several things in his screen shot that made me think that the underlying data had not been generated. My request was a gentle nudge to get him to consider that possibility and prove/disprove it.
Ok, I am getting the graphics display from the seach results.
But what I was doing originally was trying to generate the same by clicking on the Density Graphs from the Hebrew Words and Greek Words section of the Bible Word Study Report.
What???? Now it's working!!!
I think generating the "Graph Bible Search Results" from a Search Results window first cleared the "glitch" that was preventing the same from being generated from the Density Bars of the Bible Word Study Guides. Rosie, I think you had the same experience earlier because initially you had the same issue as my original post.
I wish to thank each of you for your help!!! These forums are a real blessing!!!
Cool! I'm glad whatever it was worked. But it's still weird how you and I got into that glitchy state in the first place. I guess we'll be forever mystified.
I wish to thank each of you for your help!!!
Your welcome. I had just identified your problem - the term to be graphed has to be in the same language as the resource in which you want it found. It does work the other route ... but one has to be so cautious, I'm not sure that it isn't easier to do the explicit search.
I guess we'll be forever mystified.
I think the rule is "When in Rome, speak as the Romans do"[:D]
Hmmm--My first search for "disciples" in ESV also brought up a blank graph. After changing in to NASB95, it worked. Then I changed back to ESV and had graphs there. Curiouser and curiouser.
I don't know MJ, my original attempt was to get a graph of the number of times the Greek lemma ( λόγος ) is being translated in the NASB95 by clicking on the Density Bar in the Bible Word Study Guide report. As you can see, it works now:
OK
Looks like we need to find a few more people who have never tried this feature yet to try it out and collect configuration info from them before they try it. It seems that once the problem is fixed it doesn't come back again, but what causes it to be there in the first place? Was it just a temporary glitch during beta which corrupted our database files? Were all of you who this happened to using the beta before 4.0 shipped?
I think it was a just a temporary glitch. I haven't been involved in the beta testing of L4, so the glitch was part of the official release. The good thing, at least in the cases we know about, the feature eventually works. The only thing that appears to be wrong in my example is the "<lemma=lbs/el/λόγος>" (instead of "λόγος"). [:^)]
OK, but it would still be nice to know precisely what fixed it, since three people now have reported this glitch, and something we did made it go away. I'm guessing others will encounter this problem too, and I'd like to be able to write up a FAQ about how to fix it.
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