I'm a newbie to the word studying @ The King's.
From what I can tell King Ahab was the 7th King over the Northern Kingdom of Israel.
Logos is reporting him as the 8th king in the Bible Facts. Am I missing something here?
No.
Perhaps they're including Tibni (1 Kings 16:21-23). He had some kind of kingship for four years:
I dunno, I don't think so from this scripture..
I Kings 16:21
21 Then the people of Israel were divided into two parts: half of the people followed Tibni the son of Ginath, to make him king, and half followed Omri. 22 But the people who followed Omri prevailed over the people who followed Tibni the son of Ginath. So Tibni died and Omri reigned. From what I read here Tibni never reigned...Perhaps this is an error in Logos and should be fixed?Also I'm looking through several OT Survey Books as well as books on the 1 & 2 Kings. I don't find any other kings before Ahab that would make hime the 8th King. :-)
If you compare 1 Kings 16:15 and 1 Kings 16:23, you'll see there's a four year gapcovered by 1 Kings 16:21-22. It's not 100% clear what was going on, but it's certainly possible that both Tibni and Omri were reigning over different parts of Israel. If you follow that interpretation, then Ahab is the eight King.
Dictionaries seem to be divided on this, although skewed to Ahab being the 7th King:
Ahab is 8th King:
Zondervan Encyclopedia
Baker Encyclopedia
Ahab is 7th King:
Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary
Lexham Bible Dictionary
ISBE
Eerdman's Bible Dictionary
Easton Bible Dictionary
Anchor Dictionary did not say that I could find.
Dictionaries seem to be divided on this, although skewed to Ahab being the 7th King: Ahab is 7th King: Lexham Bible Dictionary
Interesting that Lexham says he was the 7th, but Bible Facts says 8th. Sounds like we've got a bit of in-fighting going on! [:O]
I'm thinking to go with Lexham myself. I quickly counted the opinions on the dictionaries, and '7' it is. I was thinking to use colored marbles but I lost mine.
Interesting that Lexham says he was the 7th, but Bible Facts says 8th.
I sent a mail to data@logos.com.
it's certainly possible that both Tibni and Omri were reigning over different parts of Israel. If you follow that interpretation, then Ahab is the eight King.
But how do we count Tibni and Omri. [or any other list with two at the same time]
Do they both count as only one king? [# 6 as they both ruled at the same time]
Or do they both count as separate kings [#6 & #7 and allow different lists of the kings to have them in different order]
And what about King David? There was another person ruling the other half of the nation when he first took the crown.
2 Samuel 2:4 2 Samuel 2:10 2 Samuel 5:3 So David was the second king of Judah but the third king of Israel.
I appreciate all this info... Going with 7th King. It appears important to the writer to record whether a king was obedient to God or ran to other gods. Since Tibni is only recorded as people following, maybe he was only a candidate for the Kingship. There is simply no information on another reign as far as I can tell.
I'll go with Ahab being the 7th. Tibni at best had a co-reign, but Omri gets the kudos.
In the part of heaven where those who insist on counting Tibni end up--assuming they get there [:O]--the streets are only paved with silver...
...and somebody's got to keep those streets polished. Guess who that's going to be??
[;)]
I go with Ahab as the 7th regent. Applying the following reasoning. Divided Israel began with Rehoboam. He is the 4th king of united Israel and the first king of Judah (and Benjamin). Jeroboam is the 1st king of divided Israel.
Thus, if we reckon on the occasion that a split occurs you generate the beginning of a new series, when Tibni becomes king of a further divided Israel he is the 1st king of that group.
Since Omri reunites the former kingdom he continues the reign of the original series and is the 6th regent of the reunited kingdom.
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