What exactly is the hardware and software requirements needed to run Logos 4 "EFFECIENTLY"?

I am a long-time user of Logos V.3. It has helped me a great deal in learning God's words. I was exicted when the new version was released. Then I discovered the requirements for running version 4. (
http://www.logos.com/support/techfaq) It is, in my opinion, unreasonable to expect your clients to go out and update their machines to such a level to run the new version. I have been in the IT field for over 30 years and have never seen such a drastic changes in system requirements from one version to another version, except perhaps from Windows XP to Windows Vista. We all know the results of Vista.

However, I decided that it is about time for me to upgrade my labtop to the recommended configuration. Then I read the following post "Ideal Computer Configuration to use Logos V4 Platinum" (
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/4996/39193.aspx), where someone mentioned that a Logos techie posted the optimal configurations to run Logos 4

Optimal configuration

For best results . . .
Core i7 920 or higher
6GB or more of DDR3 Tri-channel RAM
Windows 7 Home Premium or Higher
DVD-ROM
1680x1050 or higher (i.e., 1920x1200 or 2560x1600)
GeForce GTX 275 or Radeon HD 4890 or higher with 896MB or more of RAM and DirectX 10
Intel X25 SSD; 40GB of free space
Broadband Internet connection

I am totally blown away by this configuration. None of our desktops or labtops in our company even approaches this configuration and our company business are writing software for companies.. When I shows my coworkers this optimal configuration, they were stunned that the software is so far ahead of the average current hardware on the market.

So, my real question are the following:

With the recommended configuration on a labtop (Levono W500), is the performance of Logos 4 acceptable to an average user?

What is the perfromance difference between one machine with the recommendaed configuration and another machine with the optimal configuration?

Thank you very much for your time.

Kurt Chang

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Chuck P.

A Cadillac would get me to coffee and breakfast better every morning with the guys too, but my Ford does just fine...you can see my configuration on the bottom of my post and am doing just fine...would I like more speed?...sure, but I don't think it has anything to do with the hardware at this time...

DMB

I have to be honest. I couldn't stop laughing. I'm impressed there's so many IT-background people on the forum. I used to manage software development and the biggest challenge was getting the programmers to recognize that the user (worldwide in our case) didn't have the best resources. I'd make sure the programmers had the lastest hardware in order to work fast but the constant problem was to program for their customer who often had slower computers. My concern now for Logos isn't version 4, but rather version 5. Having seen the shift from 2 to 3 and now 3 to 4, customers are going to need to be well-endowed by monitarily and 'geek-ily' to remain Logos devotees.

TCBlack

Kurt,

I'm afraid I can't answer your specific questions. But for the sake of folks less technically minded than you obviously are I'd like to clarify a few points. Feel free to correct me where I make a mistake.

I agree that L4 contains a very large jump in configuration requirements. I'm sure you know the diffrence already, but for the benefit of others reading this thread, there is a large difference between what could be called a minimum configuration, a minimum acceptable configuration and an optimal configuration.

A minimum configuration (MC) will provide the minimum that is necessary to run the program at all, though more than likely with excessive lags and delays.
A minimum acceptable (MA) configuration will not only run the program but will run it well enough to make the user feel comfortable in the environment.
An optimal configuration (OC) will just about run reports before you click the button, OK that's hyperbole. But truly an optimal configuration is by definition going to mean, "The most tricked out, up to date and expensive computer system available". OC's have historically been the domain of computer gamers and extreme over-clockers, not average users.

Given that list, I don't believe an optimal configuration is really a good baseline for determining what system you should have. The first two, the Minimum and min. acceptable are listed at the link you mentioned. http://www.logos.com/support/techfaq

All of that said, Logos 4 does require a recent system. It was coded with systems less than 2 years old in mind (not including netbooks, which break Moores Law). Speaking as a user with somewhat less than the recommended (MA) configuration.

Very early in the process, the decision was made to look into the future of where computers were going and develop based upon that vision, which if Moores law continues to hold true (I think it will for the foreseeable future) we'll see performance questions all but disappear within two years.

I am totally blown away by this configuration.
None of our desktops or labtops in our company even approaches this
configuration and our company business are writing software for
companies.. When I shows my coworkers this optimal configuration, they
were stunned that the software is so far ahead of the average current
hardware on the market.

I can't and won't deny that the software is looking ahead and the hardware requirements match that. I really don't know what sort of software you write, but unless it is indexing, cross referencing, reading and reporting on millions of data bits over at least three languages all heavily dependent on growing meta-data it's not exactly an apple to apple comparison.

It is, in my opinion, unreasonable to expect
your clients to go out and update their machines to such a level to
run the new version. I have been in the IT field for over 30 years
and have never seen such a drastic changes in system requirements from
one version to another version, except perhaps from Windows XP to
Windows Vista. We all know the results of Vista.

Heh, yeah we all know the results. The good news is that Logos has continued to optimize from the first release and continues to do so. There have already been 7 Service Releases and then a string of Beta's which should very quickly release as 4.0a gold. Many of those testing the beta have commented that it "feels" faster.

What is the perfromance difference between one machine with the recommendaed configuration and another machine with the optimal configuration?

As I mentioned my system is slightly below the recommended /MA configuration.

I am satisfied with my user experience. Occasionally there is a lag when I click or run a report. I chalk it up to having an older system (though I've upgraded it a bit from it's original config).