Anyone running the Logos app on the iPad air?
I have been using the first gen iPad since it's release. It is getting painfully slow. I am eagerly anticipating running Logos on the iPad air. Anybody running Logos on it? How does it run? Is the passage guide sluggish?
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The app runs beautifully on my iPad 4, so it should be at least as good, if not better, on iPad Air.
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I am using iPad air. Logos is running very well. I had been using Nexus 7 and iPad air is running much faster. The passage guide runs faster than on the Nexus. Hope this helps
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I don't have the iPad Air, but I do have Logos running on the iPhone 5s, which has the new A7 processor. For me, it is noticeably faster and quite pleasant to work with. The scrolling is very responsive along with the opening of resources. I'm assuming the iPad Air would be just as good if not better. Hope this helps.
Dave
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Thanks everyone..... going to pick it up soon
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I just got the iPad Air especially to run Logos and have been using it for almost a week.
I am coming from Android world (Asus Transformer TF300 + Nexus 7 + Galaxy note 2).
It is to be noted that the iPad Air is first iPad, or Apple product.
Well, I am not at all convinced by Logos on the iPad Air.
I expected so much from such a speed monster, but in the end the speed is the same as on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Note 2. I am so much disappointed. Worse: the Logos app sometimes freezes for no reason.
I am someone who would like modern apps to move at the speed of thought, and while holding this top notch device, I feel that we are so far from a fast-response app. i cannot understand why the app needs about 1 second to respond to a click, while I expect it to be instantaneous (no sliding of windows).
Does the problem come from the the Logos App with needs to improve its performance? Does Logos plan to improve performance and speed of the app?
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Laurent Tran-Qui said:
I am someone who would like modern apps to move at the speed of thought, and while holding this top notch device, I feel that we are so far from a fast-response app. i cannot understand why the app needs about 1 second to respond to a click, while I expect it to be instantaneous (no sliding of windows).
Are you working with downloaded resources? If not, the delay could be caused by your internet connection?
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Yes, I work with downloaded books. But if I take the highlighting function, it is very slow, with each window appearing slowly. ell not that slow, but it is not instantaneous. I have to wait for the each window to slide, and this is what I call slow.
I mean that I do not see much difference from a low end tablet (iPad 2) and a top of the class iPad Air.
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The iPad Air is supposedly 8 times faster than the iPad 2, but I do not see much difference between Logos on these two iPads.
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Laurent Tran-Qui said:
The iPad Air is supposedly 8 times faster than the iPad 2, but I do not see much difference between Logos on these two iPads.
I'm confused. Did you have and use an iPad 2? Earlier you suggest that you came from an Android device!
Some thoughts:
- Many of the features are dependent upon Logos servers. Those will not see much (if any) improvement with the newer device.
- You seem to be complaining about the speed of the sidebar opening... I don't think that is slow on my 3rd gen iPad. Either we have a different mindset on the issue, or something is wrong with your installation/device.
- There is a new version in private beta now... I don't have an ETA for when it will be made available publicly. I don't have an iPad Air to compare with. If you would like to purchase one for me, I will give you any benchmarks you'd like. [:P]
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Hmmm .... I was at Sams yesterday carefully going over each reason I needed the new iPad Air (and trying very hard to forget Michael wanting to get rid of his). It's so hard when someone says the grass on the other side of the fence isn't that tasty.
But indeed my little iPod flies on Logos, so Logos hiccuping on the Air causes concern. I do notice on the iPod that Logos hiccups, but it's the same place it hiccups on my PC (resource tagging).
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I've been using my new iPad Air (upgraded from a 3) since last Friday afternoon and not noticed any issues. Logos does seem a little crisper but that could just be the fact that its a new device and i'm really enjoying the new size and weight.
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Although I have been an Android user for years, but I have occasionally borrowed family members' iPad 2 for comparison, especially to evaluate whether to buy the iPad Air or not.
I attributed the slowness of Logos on iPad 2 due to the hardware (iPad 2 is much worse than on Android as the hardware is outdated compared to an Nexus 7 for instance).
In term of user usability, speed of response is a top priority. I need an app which responds in the blink of an eye to what I type (and I type very fast). In the logos app, it takes about 4s to highlight a text (1s for the text to become selected, + the response time for each additional click). But the time I have finished highlighting (4s) I have lost the flow of what I am reading (and I usually read fast, either on a laptop or a paper book). Since I am very heavy user of highlighting, this functionality is of utmost importance to me.
Though I sync at home, I usually use logos in disconnected mode, in restaurants,coffee shops, in the train, ... So Logos servers' response should not come into the line.
I think the logos app needs some redesign:
- user interface, so that a highlighting bar remains always visible, making it possible to highlight in 1 click , instead of 4-5 clicks
- performance optimization, as the logos app is made to work on older devices as the iPad 2.
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Although I have been an Android user for years, but I have occasionally borrowed family members' iPad 2 for comparison, especially to evaluate whether to buy the iPad Air or not.
I attributed the slowness of Logos on iPad 2 due to the hardware (iPad 2 is much worse than on Android as the hardware is outdated compared to an Nexus 7 for instance).
In term of user usability, speed of response is a top priority. I need an app which responds in the blink of an eye to what I type (and I type very fast). In the logos app, it takes about 4s to highlight a text (1s for the text to become selected, + the response time for each additional click). But the time I have finished highlighting (4s) I have lost the flow of what I am reading (and I usually read fast, either on a laptop or a paper book). Since I am very heavy user of highlighting, this functionality is of utmost importance to me.
Though I sync at home, I usually use logos in disconnected mode, in restaurants,coffee shops, in the train, ... So Logos servers' response should not come into the line.
I think the logos app needs some redesign:
- user interface, so that a highlighting bar remains always visible, making it possible to highlight in 1 click , instead of 4-5 clicks
- performance optimization, as the logos app is made to work on older devices as the iPad 2.
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Denise said:
Hmmm .... I was at Sams yesterday carefully going over each reason I needed the new iPad Air (and trying very hard to forget Michael wanting to get rid of his). It's so hard when someone says the grass on the other side of the fence isn't that tasty.
But indeed my little iPod flies on Logos, so Logos hiccuping on the Air causes concern. I do notice on the iPod that Logos hiccups, but it's the same place it hiccups on my PC (resource tagging).
Denise, <\P>
Your eyesight must be marvelous! As usual, you have impressed me. I am so impressed that you read on your iPod. I do sometimes read on my iPhone, which I suppose is about the same size screen. However, I only do so when there is no other choice. <\P>
Of course, I am blind (literally) in one eye, and at times do no see so well with the other. I just don't think I could do it. <\P>
May the Good Lord help you come up with a good enough excuse to purchase an iPad Air. If not, maybe the other side will. <\P>
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Some latest comments on the iPad: I have taken the week-end to make further comparisons with other devices (iPad 2, Nexus 7, and Galaxy Note 2), and doing some stress test on the iPad Aire while using Logos.
Actually the iPad Air is much faster than on any other device. So I owe an apologize to the iPad Air. What my complaint is solely on the user interface where one has to make so many clicks to make a highlight. But Logos answered that they have plans on improving the way to highlight in Logos.
So everyone is good. My update advice would be: if you want to buy an iPad Air for fast reading (exept highlight) and researching between many books, go ahead. The iPad Air is super fast.
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Laurent Tran-Qui said:
But Logos answered that they have plans on improving the way to highlight in Logos.
I have not read that. Are you sure that was what was implied? FWIW - Highlighting in Logos is powerful. Highlighting in some other apps is easy. I choose powerful over easy.
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alabama24 said:Laurent Tran-Qui said:
But Logos answered that they have plans on improving the way to highlight in Logos.
I have not read that. Are you sure that was what was implied? FWIW - Highlighting in Logos is powerful. Highlighting in some other apps is easy. I choose powerful over easy.
I assume this is referring to Dave's post at http://community.logos.com/forums/p/77374/541398.aspx#541398 where he says "Thanks for the suggestion. This is already on our radar and we will me making improvements in this area in the near future."
He is responding to a post from Laurent which suggests a couple of things - change the ways windows appear, provide a "highlighting panel" to be always available.
I guess we need clarification from Dave as to which of these he was referring to[:)]
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I just hope the gurus in the Bellingham iOS Logos factory would at least 're-sort' the miniature popup when one highlights. If I highlight 5 or more words or so, 'highlight' is in the popup. If it's fewer words, then I have to try and mash the little arrow on the right (which coincides with iOS's reduced sensivitivity on the far right of the iPod screen).
Plus it's especially hard to do while holding the magnifying glass over my iPod. And a fine Sunday morning to Michael!
(I gave up on buying the iPad Air when it became clear to get the GPS functionality for geology tracking, you had to buy the cellular version which was unlikely to work out in the middle of nowhere. I figured I had passed all normal expectations of intelligence, when I realized I already had a GPS tablet; a Nexus7.)
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Yes Graham,
That is correct. I was referring to Dave's post.
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Graham Criddle said:
I guess we need clarification from Dave as to which of these he was referring to
Here's the amplified version:
This issue of highlighting requiring multiple taps and therefore not being efficient is already on our radar, and we will me making improvements in this area of highlighting workflow in the near future with the goal being to make simple highlighting simpler without making advanced highlighting more complicated.
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Dave Dunkin said:
we will me making improvements in this area of highlighting workflow in the near future with the goal being to make simple highlighting simpler without making advanced highlighting more complicated.
Big task. Cool. [:)]
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Dave Dunkin said:Graham Criddle said:
I guess we need clarification from Dave as to which of these he was referring to
Here's the amplified version:
This issue of highlighting requiring multiple taps and therefore not being efficient is already on our radar, and we will me making improvements in this area of highlighting workflow in the near future with the goal being to make simple highlighting simpler without making advanced highlighting more complicated.
Excellent news - thanks Dave
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I have read some APPS are running in unexpected ways due to the fact iPad AIR is 64 bit, it is possible there is a quick causing Logos to slow down. this is only a guess.
-Dan
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