Library Organization

Mark
Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
edited December 2024 in English Forum

It would be really helpful to me if I could have all Christian resources in one Library and another Library tab for non-Christian resources such as the material on US History etc.  While I realize making categories may not be so easy, it is preferable to have basic categories already done which each user can tweak.  Would be wonderful to have a Christian resource Library and a US History Library and even a Greek Library and Hebrew Library, Perseus Library etc

But mainly my suggestion is to have two categories to start:  Christian resources and Other resources.  With 8300 resource in my library, it really really would be helpful if template lists came with the program.

It could also be useful for sales to even have the option to list in those templates resources that we do not even own.  It may spur some to click and buy as they do research etc.

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,283 ✭✭✭✭

    Maybe assignable library tabs linking to a user collection(s) or tag(s)?

    It's hard to imagine your 'Christian' matching mine (not saying mine is 'better'). Or this library vs that.

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  • David Medina
    David Medina Member Posts: 169 ✭✭

    I believe you can use tags to accomplish that. You can add tags to each resource and filter the by tags. 

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  • fgh
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    Mark said:

    It would be really helpful to me if I could have all Christian resources in one Library and another Library tab for non-Christian resources such as the material on US History etc.

    Unfortunately, it's not currently possible to have two Library tabs open (or two Collections tabs, for that matter). It's been requested many times.

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  • fgh said:

    Unfortunately, it's not currently possible to have two Library tabs open (or two Collections tabs, for that matter). It's been requested many times.

    Logos and Verbum can be open at the same time with one Library tab (and one Collection tab) in each application:

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  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    I believe you can use tags to accomplish that. You can add tags to each resource and filter the by tags. 

    It would take a long long time to tag 8300 resources.  I cannot see this as a feasible option as the library continues to grow over the years.  If someone buys the most advance, expensive package, they would immediately be faced with tagging the entire library.  This cannot be a good system. 

    I was thinking some general easy, non-disputable tabs such as a Perseus tab or a US History tab to weed these out of the Christian/religious tab.  Whether one is catholic, SDA, Evangelical, Orthodox, Liberal, Traditional, etc, there certainly could be a general tab called Christian and a second tab called Library. Certain categories could be created that are non-disputable.

    I know it would take a lot of work on Logos' part.  But if the Library one day has 50,000 resources (and that is possible in a few years time), then they will have to figure out a better system for filing...and I bet they will then put energy and resources and personnel into figuring out a better system. 

    So my suggestion was just a sort of brainstorm hoping that someone in Logos would take notice and that it would contribute to an internal discussion which hopefully and probably is taking place on this issue.

  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,159

    Mark said:

    It would take a long long time to tag 8300 resources.

    I have almost 9,000 resources that I decided to tag this year realizing the huge advantages of doing this. I have never regretted it and it only takes a few minutes to keep up tagging when I purchase new resources. Of course you don't have to tag your entire library but having the option is great.

    Still your suggestion of having pre-tagged items done by Logos is an interesting idea.

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mark said:

    I was thinking some general easy, non-disputable tabs such as a Perseus tab or a US History tab to weed these out of the Christian/religious tab. 

    Collections are a pretty good way to weed things out. On the Library toolbar there is a collection dropdown which could be viewed sort of as a "tab" selector like what you're proposing. 

    Perseus, for example, would use the very simple collection rule perseus. And if you wanted a collection of everything but perseus stuff, you'd make a collection with the rule rating:<6 -perseus.  (rating:<6 is shorthand for your entire library and is necessary to start with as something to subtract from). US History would be trickier since there isn't one simple word or phrase to search for that would find all books related to US History. So some combination of tagging or using the "Subject" field would be necessary. The rule -subject:"united states--history" would catch most of them, but not all subjects are consistent, and some books which might not fit precisely into that Library of Congress subject would still be considered to be related to US History by most people (e.g., On the Origin of the Native Races of America by Hugo Grotius, which is marked as "Indians--Origin" for its Subject). So yeah, this would be tricky.

    Perhaps Logos could create some default collections that would help new users starting out with enormous libraries to get a handle on them quickly. In the meantime, you could look through the list of collection suggestions that has been compiled in http://wiki.logos.com/Example_Collections and http://wiki.logos.com/Canonical_Commentary_Collections to see if any of these would be useful to you.

    Logos might want to consider developing a feature for importing bunches of collection rules to make setting up default collections like the above-mentioned ones easier for new users.

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    I suggest that L5 be programmed to automatically organize the library in order of increasing length of the resource title.  [;)]

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  • MJ. Smith
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    I suggest that L5 be programmed to automatically organize the library in order of increasing length of the resource title.  Wink

    George, wouldn't it be better to have it organized by (1) number of (teaching) generations since Jesus and (2) the longest string of doctrinal splits represented by the text?

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    I suggest that L5 be programmed to automatically organize the library in order of increasing length of the resource title.  Wink

    George, wouldn't it be better to have it organized by (1) number of (teaching) generations since Jesus and (2) the longest string of doctrinal splits represented by the text?

    You may be onto something there. 

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    I suggest that L5 be programmed to automatically organize the library in order of increasing length of the resource title.  Wink

    George, wouldn't it be better to have it organized by (1) number of (teaching) generations since Jesus and (2) the longest string of doctrinal splits represented by the text?

    I assume from what you say that this would be based on the subject of the resource and not on the author. 

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