can non-DRM ebooks be uploaded into my Logos library
I was just wondering if non-DRM ebooks in mobi or azrw fomat can be uploaded/used by Logos?
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Hello Rhonda,
Rhonda Dodson said:I was just wondering if non-DRM ebooks in mobi or azrw fomat can be uploaded/used by Logos?
they can, but only after you converted them to MS Word *.docx format (e.g. by using Calibre)
Have joy in the Lord!
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Yes, it is possible - but it may take a little bit of work.
1. You need a converter app, e.g. Calibre.
2. Convert the ebook to a format that Microsoft Word can open. e.g. RTF
3. Open the RTF in Microsoft Word
4. Look over the file. You may need to format the document a bit, insert milestones, reference tags, etc.
5. Save the file as DOCX
6. Use the Personal Book Builder in Logos to include the book in your library.
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Can and should are two separate things. I won't go into the legality debate... Presuming you are intent on bringing something legal into logos - yes those file types can be converted using calibre to .rtf, and from RTF, MS word can convert the file to a .docx, which can be imported into logos as a personal book
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Yes, all are legally purchased copies :-) I'm just trying to be able to access my theological texts as needed for citations, references, research & etc.
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Rhonda Dodson said:
Yes, all are legally purchased copies :-) I'm just trying to be able to access my theological texts as needed for citations, references, research & etc.
Just because they are "legally purchased" does not mean it is legal to create copies of them in another format. That is really what "copyright" means - the holder of the rights for the work is the only one who can give permission to may copies of that work.
SDG
Ken McGuire
The Gospel is not ... a "new law," on the contrary, ... a "new life." - William Julius Mann
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Ken McGuire said:Rhonda Dodson said:
Yes, all are legally purchased copies :-) I'm just trying to be able to access my theological texts as needed for citations, references, research & etc.
Just because they are "legally purchased" does not mean it is legal to create copies of them in another format. That is really what "copyright" means - the holder of the rights for the work is the only one who can give permission to may copies of that work.
SDG
Ken McGuire
This depends on where you live.
I have heard that american copyright laws are a pain in the rear for the end user. Over here in Europe, copyright is meant to protect the author, not help him exploit the user. Hence what you do with what you have purchased is less regulated, so long as you do not distribute copyrighted works to others. That, of course, is illegal.
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Sakarias Ingolfsson said:
This depends on where you live.
I have heard that american copyright laws are a pain in the rear for the end user. Over here in Europe, copyright is meant to protect the author, not help him exploit the user. Hence what you do with what you have purchased is less regulated, so long as you do not distribute copyrighted works to others. That, of course, is illegal.
True - there are differences depending on where you live. Who has the rigid laws is a bit debated. US had to tighten up its laws in 1988 in order to allign with the International Berne convention. When I described the above, I ignored "fair use". The problem is that it is really hard to define what is and is not "fair use". In 1984 the US courts ruled that time-shifting with a VCR is fair use. But to watch a tv program at a different time is different from making a copy and keeping it for repeated use. And then there is the DMCA that has been come into law since then... Since I am not a lawyer, let alone a copyright lawyer, I would recommend that people stick to conservative interpretations of this - even as I admit that I have "ripped" CD's I own and recognize that many others have do this as well, which may be legally gray - just as grey as putting a legally purchased book into Logos for personal use...
SDG
The Gospel is not ... a "new law," on the contrary, ... a "new life." - William Julius Mann
L8 Anglican, Lutheran and Orthodox Silver, Reformed Starter, Academic Essentials
L7 Lutheran Gold, Anglican Bronze
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Sakarias Ingolfsson said:Ken McGuire said:Rhonda Dodson said:
Yes, all are legally purchased copies :-) I'm just trying to be able to access my theological texts as needed for citations, references, research & etc.
Just because they are "legally purchased" does not mean it is legal to create copies of them in another format. That is really what "copyright" means - the holder of the rights for the work is the only one who can give permission to may copies of that work.
SDG
Ken McGuire
This depends on where you live.
I have heard that american copyright laws are a pain in the rear for the end user. Over here in Europe, copyright is meant to protect the author, not help him exploit the user. Hence what you do with what you have purchased is less regulated, so long as you do not distribute copyrighted works to others. That, of course, is illegal.
I must take issue with your post, especially the part I made bold. "Europe" is at more than two dozen different legislations, in most parts not really harmonized but only made more complex by various international treaties, EU regulations (where they apply) etc. For example in Germany, there is a real industry of lawyers specialized in making not only a living, but millions out of Cease And Desist letters (which are sent to more than half a billion Germans per year based on alleged internet copyright violations). This is a real pest for over twenty years now.
There is no "fair use" at all in German copyright law, resulting e.g. in lawyers going after kindergardens for printing sheets with the lyrics of christmas carols or St. Martin songs. Copyright law very often sees higher courts overruling lower courts, and much of it has not been tested in the highest courst at all, leaving large grey areas with widely deverse case decisions from lower courts and no definite guidance.
Copyright in Germany may once have been meant to protect authors, but that's not how it is used today, and the "Europe" aspect makes it worse, not better. /rant
That said, even though it's a pain, our copyright laws recognizes something like a right for personal digital copies (actually we buy it by a surcharge that is applied to every copier, every scanner, every empty hard-disk, CD-ROM or USB stick) - according to the law as long as no elaborate technical protection is broken in the process, but it hasn't gone to court how far this law reaches (if it's constitutional at all) and whether simply having a plugin in Calibre is against it - which is offr-topic for this thread, since the OP asked about DRM-free files.
Have joy in the Lord!
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NB.Mick said:
I must take issue with your post, especially the part I made bold. "Europe" is at more than two dozen different legislations, in most parts not really harmonized but only made more complex by various international treaties, EU regulations (where they apply) etc....
I understand that you take issue. I took my comment much too far, which not only made me wrong, but also obscured my point. I apologize.
My point was simply that this depends on where you live, and that copyright laws differ from one place to another. I should have stuck to this.
I live in Europe, not in the actual union, but within the EEA, so still under its influence.
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That is highly debatable if the books are converted for personal use, and not distributed, I do not believe that it violates copyright law. Just as the courts have ruled that you can convert a cd to mp3 to play it on your MP3 player. I think any sharing or distribution, even for free, would be a violation of copyright.Ken McGuire said:Rhonda Dodson said:Yes, all are legally purchased copies :-) I'm just trying to be able to access my theological texts as needed for citations, references, research & etc.
Just because they are "legally purchased" does not mean it is legal to create copies of them in another format. That is really what "copyright" means - the holder of the rights for the work is the only one who can give permission to may copies of that work.
SDG
Ken McGuire
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