Why can't I just use the program?
When I download a new book, Logos 5 goes into its "preparing your library" routine. It warns me that "this may take a while" but sometimes a while is just too long.
I'm currently in one of those and Logos 5 has been cogitating for about 5 minutes. Of course, this means I can't use the program, which of course is what one generally wants to do when one starts a software program.
This is my second biggest complaint about the software (this first being that indexing can be a resource hog).
I just want to use the program but I can't...
AARRRGGGHHH!
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Taxee said:
When I download a new book, Logos 5 goes into its "preparing your library" routine. It warns me that "this may take a while" but sometimes a while is just too long.
Are you aware that you can control when downloads take place and when they are actually added to your library?
The first via configuration in Program Settings, the second by manual interaction.
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Taxee said:
It warns me that "this may take a while" but sometimes a while is just too long.
I'm currently in one of those and Logos 5 has been cogitating for about 5 minutes.
Hi Taxee
The message you quote is a feature of all installations. It appears on my rather ageing iMac (usually for about a minute) and on my more modern MacBookAir (usually for a few seconds). I imagine that the length of its stay depends on the computer and its components.
If you would care to divulge the details of the machine that you are using somebody might be able to advise if your wait times are disproportional considering the machine being used.
tootle pip
Mike
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Taxee said:
I'm currently in one of those and Logos 5 has been cogitating for about 5 minutes.
This seems a long time. Usually it only lasts a few seconds for me. It might take a minute or two if there have been numerous updates.
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Ah yes, those Libronix boys knew how to program. Buy a Libronix book from Logos, download it, open it and start feasting your intelligence (vs ones frustrations).
I'm pretty sure the iOS team must have stolen quite a number of the Libronix team (for good reason!!). Buy a book and start reading in iOS. Yes!
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Pause the indexing, link on RHS, then you aren't crippled at a point you need it mostTaxee said:When I download a new book, Logos 5 goes into its "preparing your library" routine. It warns me that "this may take a while" but sometimes a while is just too long.
I'm currently in one of those and Logos 5 has been cogitating for about 5 minutes. Of course, this means I can't use the program, which of course is what one generally wants to do when one starts a software program.
This is my second biggest complaint about the software (this first being that indexing can be a resource hog).
I just want to use the program but I can't...
AARRRGGGHHH!
downloads (release and updates) were bigger, and searches way slower, in Libronix, not better IMO, sorry but the past is gone, we cant go back to Egypt (not that we want to)Denise said:Buy a Libronix book from Logos, download it, open it and start feasting your intelligence (vs ones frustrations).
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Actually, you can begin using it immediately. It is searching that may not work properly while Logos is indexing. You can still open a resource and begin reading right away.
As for Denise's obsession with L3, I was once in agreement with her when L4 was being developed. Now, however, the only thing I miss about L3 is the Weights and Measures function. Logos, I'm not going to stop complaining about this until you fix it so get to work !
george
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Actually, Dominic, downloads in Libronix are smaller, resource-selectable, and you don't wait, wait, wait. I mention Libronix as a hint that Bellingham 'used' to be fast.
But you didn't read my 2nd line ... I use iOS now, instead of Libronix. So no need to raise your blood pressure.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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George Somsel said:
Actually, you can begin using it immediately. It is searching that may not work properly while Logos is indexing. You can still open a resource and begin reading right away.
This is talking about indexing and George is correct that you can use the program while this is going on
However, Taxee's original post was talking about the time waiting while Logos "prepares its library" and while this is going on you can't use the program at all. When this takes 5 minutes, as in his experience, this does end up being quite a long time.
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What *is* going on when Logos "prepares its library"? I know about indexing, but what is this other prior step? It shouldn't take five minutes anyway. It is a minor nuisance for me on a fast machine. Have to wait a few seconds. But I would be pulling my hair out too if it took five minutes.
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Rosie Perera said:
What *is* going on when Logos "prepares its library"? I know about indexing, but what is this other prior step? It shouldn't take five minutes anyway. It is a minor nuisance for me on a fast machine. Have to wait a few seconds. But I would be pulling my hair out too if it took five minutes.
At times it has taken longer than 5 minutes on my computer. There are times it has taken so long I began monitoring the indexing logs to see if anything was happening, refreshing the view of the log every minute or two assured me that something was happening. Why it takes so long sometimes and not others is totally baffling to me.
One feature built in to more recent releases is that if Logos senses a corrupt database, it will rebuild it. My understanding of the "Preparing your Library" message is that it is, or is like, an initial library database rebuild. The speed of this, I'm sure, varies depending on things like hard drive speed and available space, amount of RAM, and CPU, as well as the size of ones library.
I haven't seen this in a while, but when I do, I use the time to strengthen my patience muscles. ("All things work together for good...") [;)]
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Taxee said:
I'm currently in one of those and Logos 5 has been cogitating for about 5 minutes.
As others have said, it shouldn't take that long unless you have hundreds of new resources to be added. Occasionally Logos does get stuck on this screen, and you have to kill the process and try again. You could check the CPU usage of the indexer process to see if Logos is actually doing anything in this instance.
As to the more general question as to why you can't use the program during this phase, take a look at this post: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/75059/525016.aspx#525016
This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!
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George Somsel said:
Actually, you can begin using it immediately. It is searching that may not work properly while Logos is indexing. You can still open a resource and begin reading right away.
Actually, you can't start using it, that's the rub. Sometimes (and not all of the time) after a download, Logos 5 seems to cogitate at length before it is prepared to allow me to search.
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Taxee said:
Sometimes (and not all of the time) after a download, Logos 5 seems to cogitate at length before it is prepared to allow me to search.
I think George meant you could begin after the Preparing.. stage, whilst Logos is indexing.
Dave
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