Louw Nida Number Incorrect

Dave Cotner

Good Morning,

I am using Logos bible Software 5.2 SR 3. As I was studying the word "touch" in Mark 10:13, I right clicked and chose the Louw Nida number 14.56 which returns this definition:

14.65 ἅπτω; περιάπτω; ἀνάπτω; φλογίζω; καίω^b; ἐμπί(μ)πρημι: to cause the process of burning to begin—‘to ignite, to kindle, to set ablaze, to start a fire, to light a lamp.’

Now, that is obviously incorrect. Jesus did not burn the children! After digging a little more, I found that the DBL gives this definition:

721 ἅπτομαι (haptomai), ἅπτω (haptō): vb.; ≡ DBLHebr 5595; Str 680 & 681—1. LN 14.65 start a fire (Ac 28:2+); 2. LN 18.6 (dep.) hold on to, seize, grasp (Jn 20:17); 3. LN 24.73 (dep.) touch, with relatively firm contact (Mk 7:33; Lk 7:14); 4. LN 20.16 (dep.) harm (1Jn 5:18); 5. LN 34.70 (dep.) γυναικὸς ἅπτομαι (gynaikos haptomai), marry, formally, touch a woman (1Co 7:1+)

I noticed that the third definition is "touch" with the LN number 24.73. So, going there I find:

24.73 ἅπτομαι^b: to touch, with the implication of relatively firm contact—‘to touch.’

Now, here's my question. How is it that every one of my LN tagged Bibles point to LN 14.65 which is obviously incorrect, and not LN 24.73 which is obviously correct? How can I report this? Thank you!

Timothy Brown

A search of the lemma shows that Mark 10:13 is not the only verse with the problem. Unless I am mistaken, the following all appear to have the wrong Louw Nida number (14.65):

<Lemma = lbs/el/ἅπτω> in ESV

Matthew 8:3
And Jesus stretched out his hand and touched him, saying, “I will; be clean.” And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.

Matthew 8:15
He touched her hand, and the fever left her, and she rose and began to serve him.

Matthew 9:20
And behold, a woman who had suffered from a discharge of blood for twelve years came up behind him and touched the fringe of his garment,

Matthew 9:21
for she said to herself, “If I only touch his garment, I will be made well.”

Matthew 9:29
Then he touched their eyes, saying, “According to your faith be it done to you.”

Matthew 14:36
and implored him that they might only touch the fringe of his garment. And as many as touched it were made well.

Matthew 17:7
But Jesus came and touched them, saying, “Rise, and have no fear.”

Matthew 20:34
And Jesus in pity touched their eyes, and immediately they recovered their sight and followed him.

Mark 1:41
Moved with pity, he stretched out his hand and touched him and said to him, “I will; be clean.”

Mark 3:10
for he had healed many, so that all who had diseases pressed around him to touch him.

Mark 5:27
She had heard the reports about Jesus and came up behind him in the crowd and touched his garment.

Mark 5:28
For she said, “If I touch even his garments, I will be made well.”

Mark 5:30
And Jesus, perceiving in himself that power had gone out from him, immediately turned about in the crowd and said, “Who touched my garments?”

Mark 5:31
And his disciples said to him, “You see the crowd pressing around you, and yet you say, ‘Who touched me?’ ”

Mark 6:56
And wherever he came, in villages, cities, or countryside, they laid the sick in the marketplaces and implored him that they might touch even the fringe of his garment. And as many as touched it were made well.

Mark 8:22
And they came to Bethsaida. And some people brought to him a blind man and begged him to touch him.

Mark 10:13
And they were bringing children to him that he might touch them, and the disciples rebuked them.

Luke 5:13
And Jesus stretched out his hand and touched him, saying, “I will; be clean.” And immediately the leprosy left him.

Luke 6:19
And all the crowd sought to touch him, for power came out from him and healed them all.

Luke 7:39
Now when the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would have known who and what sort of woman this is who is touching him, for she is a sinner.”

Luke 8:44
She came up behind him and touched the fringe of his garment, and immediately her discharge of blood ceased.

Luke 8:45
And Jesus said, “Who was it that touched me?” When all denied it, Peter said, “Master, the crowds surround you and are pressing in on you!”

Luke 8:46
But Jesus said, “Someone touched me, for I perceive that power has gone out from me.”

Luke 8:47
And when the woman saw that she was not hidden, she came trembling, and falling down before him declared in the presence of all the people why she had touched him, and how she had been immediately healed.

Luke 18:15
Now they were bringing even infants to him that he might touch them. And when the disciples saw it, they rebuked them.

Luke 22:51
But Jesus said, “No more of this!” And he touched his ear and healed him.

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