Can SSD partitions be established after the fact on Windows?…
I finally obtained a high performance laptop and I'd like to get it right here the first time. I'm probably capable of getting Logos 5 up and running on a Windows 8 SSD. But some of the advanced configuration are beyond my current knowledge level. Logos partitions. OS partitions. It's all much like Greek to me.
Where can I get the education I need to have a hot-rodded Logos 5 setup? How many partitions should I have on my 240GB SSD? Of what size should they be? Microsoft Office is the only other big app I'll be running on the machine.
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Did the laptop come with an O.S. pre-installed, and an existing partition and file system configuration? If so, what is it?
The laptop I just got came with 2 physical drives (both SSD) combined into a single RAID logical drive partitioned into separate C: and
. I've left it like that and installed Logos into \Other Programs\Logos5. Given the physical inaccessibility of the drives in this laptop (Ultrabook), that seems to be a decent balance.Donnie
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C: Windows 905 GB Total - 53.8 GB Used - 851 GB Free
RECOVERY 25.5 GB Total - 22.9 GB Used - 2.5 GB Free
It's a 5200 RPM HDD.0 -
Michael Anda said:
Where can I get the education I need to have a hot-rodded Logos 5 setup? How many partitions should I have on my 240GB SSD? Of what size should they be?
See this Windows link for partitioning your SSD. If you have only a C: drive follow the link for shrinking a partition. Mqke C: ("Total size after shrink") about 100 GB. You only need 2 partitions (C: and
).Michael Anda said:Microsoft Office is the only other big app I'll be running on the machine.
Put MS Office on the C: drive as normal. Do a Custom install of Logos and specify the
drive as its location (it will actually install it at \Logos5).Dave
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Michael Anda said:
It's a 5200 RPM HDD.
I thought you had an SSD, so are you wanting to install an SSD or repartition this HDD?
Dave
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So ROUGHLY two equally sized partitions? My SSD has 228,937 MB of available space.
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The stock laptop drive is a 1 TB HDD. This is the drive I want to replace with a 240 GB SSD.
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Michael Anda said:
The stock laptop drive is a 1 TB HDD. This is the drive I want to replace with a 240 GB SSD.
Then you are going to rely on the Clone software that came with the SSD to get the HDD onto the SSD with automatically shrunk drives and then physically replace the HDD with the SSD in the laptop. This is very demanding, technically and if you don't have the cloning software you will have to research the topic on the Internet and also create a Windows Repair Disk if the SSD is not recognised as a boot disk!
Are you ready for this?
Dave
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My OS is Windows 8
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Well then, I'm going to let er rip. Thanks, Dave.
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Looks like Partition 4 is where my C: Windows contents will go. Partition 5 is where the
RECOVERY contents will land. I'm assuming Partitions 1, 2, and 3 are reserved for some system function. Changing 4 and 5 has proved to be easy.0 -
Partitions 1 and 2 are changeable. 3 is noted as immtable.
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I'm not familiar with this software, but Windows has "hidden" partitions for recovery and booting so the 5 that are listed is what you have! If it automatically adjusts size then "let 'er rip".
Dave
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Michael Anda said:
Partitions 1 and 2 are changeable. 3 is noted as immtable.
If a partition is nearly full then its size cannot be changed.
Dave
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Michael Anda said:
Well then, I'm going to let er rip. Thanks, Dave.
Make sure you create a Windows 8 Repair Disk (see Windows Help or google for it).
Dave
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I didn't create a repair disk. Should this happen before I swap drives? I will, of course, have the RECOVERY volume in two places when finished. The original HDD will have a copy and the new SSD will have the cloned copy on Partition 5.
Also, any settings need to be changed before I swap the two drives?0 -
Michael Anda said:
Should this happen before I swap drives?
Yes. Although Windows 8 may present you with repair options (not sure about this).
Michael Anda said:I will, of course, have the RECOVERY volume in two places when finished
That assumes you can boot from the SSD in the first place, which is what the Repair disk is intended to fix. At worst, you simply go back to the HDD.
Dave
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Michael Anda said:
Also, any settings need to be changed before I swap the two drives?
Windows will take care of that after you have booted from the SSD.
Dave
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FYI, Partitions 1 and 2 represented Drive C: and Drive D from the HDD. After the cloning ended I saw that Partitions 4 and 5 were seen by the computer as being Drive E: and Drive F:
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BTW, my cloning software gave me the option of creating a bootable USB drive. I did do this. Is that the same thing as the Windows 8 repair disk?
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Michael Anda said:
FYI, Partitions 1 and 2 represented Drive C: and Drive D from the HDD.
I would have thought they are too small from your screenshot.
Michael Anda said:After the cloning ended I saw that Partitions 4 and 5 were seen by the computer as being Drive E: and Drive F:
A lot of tools do this but these (hidden) partitions are not assigned drive letters by Windows when on the boot drive.
Dave
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Made sense, AFTER I saw it represented the way I mentioned in File Explorer.
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After shutting down my laptop I notice it's now installing 16 updates. It's always something, they say. I better redo the whole shebang me thinks.
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Michael Anda said:
After shutting down my laptop I notice it's now installing 16 updates. It's always something, they say. I better redo the whole shebang me thinks.
Why bother - those updates will also happen on the SSD after swapping drives successfully.
Dave
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I figured as much, but I wasn't sure about the stability. Now that I think about those updates are already downloaded and present on the SSD waiting to be applied, aren't they?
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Stuck again. Can't figure out how to remove HDD from computer. Can't find a tab to pull anywhere.
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Michael Anda said:
I figured as much, but I wasn't sure about the stability. Now that I think about those updates are already downloaded and present on the SSD waiting to be applied, aren't they?
Whether downloaded or not, the updates will be applied if they are needed.
Dave
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Michael Anda said:
Stuck again. Can't figure out how to remove HDD from computer. Can't find a tab to pull anywhere.
They usually slot into a fixed connector, so pull drive away from that.
I'm going away for a few hours now.
Dave
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You've been a big help, Dave. Thank you.
As for my progress—I FINALLY got it up and running a short while ago. I don't know why but I had to keep trying all the recovery options and it finally took—from the SSD, no less. Everything is quite zippy and I can't wait to get my Logos 5 software up and running. I'll be downloading my resources throughout the night.0 -
Michael Anda said:
As for my progress—I FINALLY got it up and running a short while ago. I don't know why but I had to keep trying all the recovery options and it finally took
Well done! Perseverance pays.
Michael Anda said:I'll be downloading my resources throughout the night.
Now you disappoint me as you have the resources on the HDD and can use Method 3.
Dave
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No, I hadn't installed Logos on this computer previously. I've only purchased it quite recently and wanted to get the SSD in place first. I could have copied them from another machine, but… my brain was nearly ready to explode as things sat. [8-|]
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