Anyone preaching on/from Leviticus and/or Ezekiel?
Is anyone using Logos to preach through either Leviticus or The Book of Ezekiel any time soon?
Just curious.
If yes, which Logos resources are you using please? Please put links to them...thanks.
God bless your series and listeners.
joshua
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JoshInRI said:
Is anyone using Logos to preach through either Leviticus or The Book of Ezekiel any time soon?
If yes, which Logos resources are you using please? Please put links to them...thanks.
Hi Josh
I've recently written some bible reading notes through Lev. Didn't find any really exciting commentaries. Mostly used the ones in the series I have: Word Bible Commentary (John Hartley), New American Commentary (Mark Rooker) and the older but well-written and less expensive Tyndale Old Testament Commentary (R K Harrison). Several years back, Rob Bell started a church by preaching through the book of Leviticus. It might be interesting if you could get any of his videos (not in Logos, possibly by Nooma).
Ezekiel is very different. You'll need to immerse yourself in what it would have been like after 587 BCE when they'd lost everything--Land, temple, Davidic kingship, basically their identity as a people--and it felt like God's project was all over. Only then do you glimpse what it meant to name God as the Sovereign Lord over all human affairs, and Ezekiel as the human who declares and enacts how God is still on track to complete the project he began. In my experience, it's this big-picture stuff that's hardest for listeners (and preachers) to appreciate.
For commentaries on Ezekiel, Tuell's 2012 UBCS one isn't bad. You can rent this set. Allen Leslie (WBC) is also worth reading, as is Douglas Stuart (Preacher's Commentary Series).
HTH
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Couple years back I took our church through the book of Ezekiel by teaching and preaching. I used the NIV Application Commentary on Ezekiel. We all agreed that it was one of the better book series we had done.
I think the Concordia Library commentary on Leviticus by John Kleinig looks promising too. He shows how the book of Leviticus is fulfilled by Christ.
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Great suggestions guys. I personally would never read anything by Rob Bell, unless it was before he lost his way and started misleading others.
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Here are a few resources on Leviticus that I'd like to recommend:
(1)The JPS commentary on Leviticus
https://www.logos.com/product/3931/the-jps-torah-commentary-leviticus
(2) Jacob Milgrom; continental Commentary on Leviticus
(3) Lester L. Grabbe; Leviticus
https://www.logos.com/product/5612/sheffield-old-testament-guides-leviticus
(4) The Jewish Study Bible
https://www.logos.com/product/30983/the-jewish-study-bible
(5) John E. Hartley; Word Biblical Commentary volume four
https://www.logos.com/product/1341/word-biblical-commentary-volume-4-Leviticus
(6) (NOT IN LOGOS!) The Pentateuch and Haftorahs: Hebrew Text English Translation and Commentary
- Hardcover: 1097 pages
- Publisher: The Soncino Press; 2nd edition edition (January 1, 1960)
- Language: English, Hebrew
- ISBN-10: 0900689218
- ISBN-13: 978-0900689215
(7) (NOT IN LOGOS!) The Soncino Chumash
- Series: Soncino books of the Bible
- Hardcover: 1203 pages
- Publisher: The Soncino Press; 2nd edition (January 1, 1947)
- Language: English, Hebrew
- ISBN-10: 0900689242
- ISBN-13: 978-0900689246
חַפְּשׂוּ בַּתּוֹרָה הֵיטֵב וְאַל תִּסְתַּמְּכוּ עַל דְּבָרַי
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I forgot to make mention of these two:
Handbook on the Pentateuch
https://www.logos.com/product/22861/handbook-on-the-pentateuch
The Keil and Delitzsch commentary on the OT
https://www.logos.com/product/5790/keil-and-delitzsch-commentary-on-the-old-testament
חַפְּשׂוּ בַּתּוֹרָה הֵיטֵב וְאַל תִּסְתַּמְּכוּ עַל דְּבָרַי
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Here's one by John G. Butler Analytical Bible Expositor on Leviticus. Some alliterated outlines can serve as sermon starters. The volume that includes Ezekiel is still in pre-pub.
DAL
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If your intention is to preach a series on these books, I would recommend against it. I at one time even preached on the genealogies of Gen 5, but I think I have managed to learn one or two things over the years. As a minister of the gospel, your job is to PREACH THE GOSPEL. While I would definitely recommend that you TEACH the Old Testament, I would not recommend PEACHING IT. I would recommend the use of the lectionary which does a fine job of pairing passages which are related to one another—by all means read the OT passages. The OT is the propaedeutic to the NT and must be respected for what it was and is, but it is not the gospel.
8. Do not be deceived by strange doctrines or antiquated myths, since they are worthless. For if we continue to live in accordance with Judaism, we admit that we have not received grace. (2) For the most godly prophets lived in accordance with Christ Jesus. This is why they were persecuted, being inspired as they were by his grace in order that those who are disobedient might be fully convinced that there is one God who revealed himself through Jesus Christ his Son, who is his Word which came forth from silence, who in every respect pleased him who sent him.
9. If, then, those who had lived in antiquated practices came to newness of hope, no longer keeping the Sabbath but living in accordance with the Lord’s day, on which our life also arose through him and his death (which some deny), the mystery through which we came to believe, and because of which we patiently endure, in order that we might be found to be disciples of Jesus Christ, our only teacher, (2) how can we possibly live without him, whom even the prophets, who were his disciples in the Spirit, were expecting as their teacher? Because of this he for whom they rightly waited raised them from the dead when he came.
Holmes, Michael William. The Apostolic Fathers: Greek Texts and English Translations. The Epistle of Ignatius to the Magnesians 8-9. Updated ed. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 1999.
george
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George Somsel said:
While I would definitely recommend that you TEACH the Old Testament, I would not recommend PREACHING IT.
Interesting perspective, George: you're recommending we skip the larger portion of Scripture from our (exegetical) preaching, on the basis that the gospel isn't found there. Different. (These forums are probably not the place to discuss what the gospel is.)
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Listen to BKMitchell on Leviticus - he listed all my favorites plus some I don't know.
Allen, George's perspective is fairly common. The Gospel is by far the most frequent basis of sermons for the primary services of the day; Epistles and Old Testament often having their place in secondary services or faith formation/religious education settings. Exegetical preaching is also often placed in secondary services or faith formation/religious education settings - partially to allow for longer sermons than in the primary service.
If you look at http://www.lectionarycentral.com/ you'll find that there is a long tradition of separate sermons on the Gospel and on the Epistle - Patristic, Reformation, Caroline Divines, Evangelical Revival, Oxford Movement ... almost no Old Testament.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Thanks Mr. Somsel....I appreciated your counsel and suggestion.
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Just one further note regarding this. My field is OT. I think every Christian should know the OT forward and backward and inside out (the problem is that many Christians don't even know the NT very well). I just don't think we should be spending a lot of time preaching on it (again, TEACHING, NOT PREACHING). There is a reason that it is called the OLD Testament.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George's point might involve the sleeping ratio among the congregation, that sometimes intrudes into pastors' exegetical plans.
Our pastor went through Exodus mainly up to the covenant sections, and leaving the priestly stuff for Hebrews. As much as I enjoy chariots of fire and neato geological rocks somewhere in the environs of the leading priest, choice of sermons remains an oddly naive activity for many pastors.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise said:
George's point might involve the sleeping ratio among the congregation, that sometimes intrudes into pastors' exegetical plans.
Our pastor went through Exodus mainly up to the covenant sections, and leaving the priestly stuff for Hebrews. As much as I enjoy chariots of fire and neato geological rocks somewhere in the environs of the leading priest, choice of sermons remains an oddly naive activity for many pastors.
Hence the use of the lectionary rather than having the pastor continually picking his favorites.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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JoshInRI said:
Is anyone using Logos to preach through either Leviticus or The Book of Ezekiel any time soon?
I will not be preaching through Leviticus anytime soon. But I am translating Leviticus as part of an independent study in Hebrew this year. Lev has long been one of my favorite books in the Old Testament because it breaths out the passion of Christ.
If we read Lev through the lense of Jesus we find much there that is worth commending.
My primary commentaries in my Leviticus study are for the most part listed in BKMitchell's post. Milgrom is incredibly insightful in terms of grammar and observations frequently missed by the casual reader. But he is a Jew writing without Christian perspective though he does at points assess and respond to Christian commentators. There are others to be read in conjunction as well.
However I concur with George in this: Preach the gospel. If, however you cannot see the pointers and foreshadowings of the gospel in Leviticus, you are not looking close enough.
Jesus is after all the Lamb of God.
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George Somsel said:
As a minister of the gospel, your job is to PREACH THE GOSPEL. While I would definitely recommend that you TEACH the Old Testament, I would not recommend PEACHING IT. I would recommend the use of the lectionary which does a fine job of pairing passages which are related to one another—by all means read the OT passages. The OT is the propaedeutic to the NT and must be respected for what it was and is, but it is not the gospel.
What a load of 100% bunk. Severe lack of comprehension regarding what the gospel is.
Surprise, surprise...George and I disagree on something.
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David Paul said:George Somsel said:
As a minister of the gospel, your job is to PREACH THE GOSPEL. While I would definitely recommend that you TEACH the Old Testament, I would not recommend PEACHING IT. I would recommend the use of the lectionary which does a fine job of pairing passages which are related to one another—by all means read the OT passages. The OT is the propaedeutic to the NT and must be respected for what it was and is, but it is not the gospel.
What a load of 100% bunk. Severe lack of comprehension regarding what the gospel is.
Surprise, surprise...George and I disagree on something.
I'm pleased to hear that you disagree with me, David. Had you not disagreed I would have suspected I was wrong.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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At least we can agree on that! [:)]
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george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Andrew Bonar's commentary on Leviticus is worth checking out.
If you want a taster, I wrote a summary of his introduction yesterday: The Gospel According to Leviticus
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I just refound this original posting (by me of all people) and forgot I asked before. I am rereading all the replies including yours. Thanks again.
I would change my original post to say LAMENTATIONS now not Leviticus which I boil down to "Be Holy". Its ok to look shocked and horrified.
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Interesting. Do not preach from the OT at least not expositionally. First I ever read or saw this before. I need to reread my old posts and their replies more thoroughly.
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I do not agree with the false notion that you avoid preaching from the OT when the OT actually leads us to Christ. Hence, here are other recommendations:
1. Allen P. Ross on how to preach from Leviticus: https://www.logos.com/product/3820/holiness-to-the-lord-a-guide-to-the-exposition-of-the-book-of-leviticus?queryId=d49107d2a244683744a301404ac2e5b3
2. Exalting Christ in Leviticus: https://www.logos.com/product/208533/exalting-jesus-in-leviticus?queryId=28731c4882e3511f930e08522e5ccb8d
3. Preaching Christ from Leviticus: https://www.logos.com/product/196111/preaching-christ-from-leviticus-foundations-for-expository-sermons?queryId=837db4e9b7604393644964b56ffd0146
There are more if you search the store. Anyone who claims we shouldn’t preach the OT lacks the ability to connect the dots and lacks proficiency in handling aright the Word of Truth. Remember, “All Scripture is God breathed!”
DAL
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This reminds me of a quote from Augustine - "The OT is the NT concealed. The NT is the OT revealed."
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JoshInRI said:
I would change my original post to say LAMENTATIONS now not Leviticus which I boil down to "Be Holy".
I boil it down to Tenebrae - so many musical settings to hear and such a short season to hear them in liturgical context. One of the evangelization through music highlights of the year.
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DAL said:
I do not agree with the false notion that you avoid preaching from the OT when the OT actually leads us to Christ.
There are a number of traditions for which Sundays are still "little Easters" and the focus is on Jesus Christ. While I have not set out to prove it statistically, it is my observation that the ACELO churches tend to emphasize Jesus Christ (and the Gospels) and the Bible churches tend to emphasize Paul (and the Old Testament) in the sermons/homilies. I don't see the same bias in educational and formational materials. Please don't label the notion that one preaches Jesus and the Gospel as a "false notion" (think Romans 16:25) - it is simply a different understanding than yours. It simply reflects seeing Jesus as the primary "Word of God" which the written Word supplements.
DAL said:Anyone who claims we shouldn’t preach the OT lacks the ability to connect the dots and lacks proficiency in handling aright the Word of Truth.
Again, the churches using a lectionary and thus multiple texts (2-7 texts) connect the dots in nearly every sermon/homily. Yes, there are some lectionary traditions that separate the preaching text from the lessons/readings but they are the minority. In addition, the lectionary encourages/forces them to preach the whole Bible in the sense of from all books with some traditions excluding a book or two. Further, many of them must preach daily - usually shorter sermons/homilies.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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