How long does indexing take for whole library?
Hello everyone. This is my first post and I am still in the downloading/installation process. Am I in the correct forum for installation help? I signed in to the forum for install help, but it seems the different forums given me lead to the same place. I realize in asking this question about time for indexing, that it certainly depends on the size of your library. But can someone give me an approximate average time per item or per 10 or 50 items? At this rate it seems it will take a week.
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Welcome, Ronald. You're in the right place.
- What are your computer specs? Indexing time will vary significantly based on the speed of your computer.
- How many resources do you have?
- How long has it been indexing?
Even with a very slow machine and thousands of resources, it probably shouldn't take a week.
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Thanks Phil. I am presently installing on a Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop with only 512 MB of RAM and a 60 GB Hard Drive which is 58% empty, so I have a good amount of unused Hard Drive left. I do have a large library though. I was watching the rate at which the indexed resources remaining dropped, and it seems like it takes several minutes for each item. I am guessing 10 minutes or so for each one. Do you think this sounds normal? It may very well be ok but it just seemed like that is a long time for each item to be indexed.
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Phil, one more thing, I probably should have told you that my clock speed is 2.2 GHZ too.
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RonaldCurry said:
Thanks Phil. I am presently installing on a Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop with only 512 MB of RAM and a 60 GB Hard Drive which is 58% empty, so I have a good amount of unused Hard Drive left. I do have a large library though. I was watching the rate at which the indexed resources remaining dropped, and it seems like it takes several minutes for each item. I am guessing 10 minutes or so for each one. Do you think this sounds normal? It may very well be ok but it just seemed like that is a long time for each item to be indexed.
You need more RAM for this to work well. I think minimum was 1GB RAM. I found not doing anything else and having background programs off helped speed up the process.
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Yes Jason, I saw that 1GB of RAM requirement in FAQ's before I started and had forgotten. I will add more RAM as soon as I can get it ordered and received, but will just have to live with it until I get that RAM. I needed the added RAM anyway and this is just a good reason to go ahead and get it. I appreciate your 'patience' reminder from Ephesians too.
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I have has a problem on my netbook, my main PC and Netbook have same resources, PC took 5 hours, Netbook is still running and is 12 hrs+ plus the index is larger on the net book than the PC already, gonna delete beta and retry I think
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RonaldCurry said:
Thanks Phil. I am presently installing on a Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop with only 512 MB of RAM and a 60 GB Hard Drive which is 58% empty, so I have a good amount of unused Hard Drive left. I do have a large library though. I was watching the rate at which the indexed resources remaining dropped, and it seems like it takes several minutes for each item. I am guessing 10 minutes or so for each one. Do you think this sounds normal? It may very well be ok but it just seemed like that is a long time for each item to be indexed.
Ronald, I installed Logos 4 on a 5-year-old Dell Inspiron 5150 with 2GB of RAM and 4,000–5,000 resources, and it took about 36 hours to finish everything.
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36 HOURS?????? Wow???
Phil what are the plans re indexing? I'm not clear based on what I've read so far. Surely it's a hard selling point to invite people to upgrade to a program that will take as long as 36 hours?
My netbook is on its third run through of indexing. I don't know if I would have begun if I'd know that "very long time" actually may equal well more than a day.
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DamianMcGrath said:
36 HOURS?????? Wow???
Phil what are the plans re indexing? I'm not clear based on what I've read so far. Surely it's a hard selling point to invite people to upgrade to a program that will take as long as 36 hours?
My netbook is on its third run through of indexing. I don't know if I would have begun if I'd know that "very long time" actually may equal well more than a day.
Our laptop is primarily just for my wife to check email and Facebook and do a little web browsing, and it even tries her patience for those simple tasks. I doubt we'll be running Logos 4 much on it. I'll probably build a new machine for myself in the next year and give my current Q6600 machine to her.
Most people with large libraries probably have machines that are better equipped to run Logos 4, and our base packages will most likely ship with a pre-built index, meaning that new customers won't even have to go through the whole indexing process—at least initially.
I'm sure indexing will be optimized some more during the beta phase. It is, though, not a quick task. But we think most people will consider it worth it in exchange for much faster searching.
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Phil Gons said:
I'm sure indexing will be optimized some more during the beta phase. It is, though, not a quick task.
I've indexed 43/457 in 67 minutes. It took 62 min to index ESV and NASB95 whilst complaining that every book/chapter "had no reverse interlinear data". When it wasn't complaining about expectations (I haven't loaded the 561 MB OL books) it took 1.5 minutes for AV1873 (Cambridge Paragraph Bible). Some optimisation is needed!
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
I've indexed 43/457 in 67 minutes. It took 62 min to index ESV and NASB95 whilst complaining that every book/chapter "had no reverse interlinear data". When it wasn't complaining about expectations (I haven't loaded the 561 MB OL books) it took 1.5 minutes for AV1873 (Cambridge Paragraph Bible). Some optimisation is needed!
Resources with reverse interlinears take a very long time to index in Beta 1. (It does find reverse interlinear data for every verse, which is what increases indexing time.)
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I started this thread and made my last entry here before my system had finished installing and indexing all resources. I have had several "tryanny of the urgent" episodes since then and am just getting back to update. I am not a whiz-bang on personal computers, but look forward to contributing all I can here. Now back to business of Logos 4. I was ignorant of the fact that if I stopped while indexing that I would have to start all over, and messed that one up. After starting over on indexing, my computer took between 19 and 24 hours to complete the indexing with 4508 resources. I say between, because it finished indexing after I personally crashed and had to get some sleep after working on installation and indexing for much of the previous 24 hours before that. I do have 2 GB of RAM ordered to upgrade and max out RAM from my present 512 MB of RAM and will install it as soon as I get it. Now, finally I get to participate some.
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RonaldCurry said:
After starting over on indexing, my computer took between 19 and 24 hours to complete the indexing with 4508 resources
Ronald
Beta 2 took 5 hours to index for 1155 resources and as Bradley said earlier that the majority of the time the interlinears take up. Perhaps shifting from your resources folder some Greek/Hebrew sources you don't use often in order to reduce indexing time?
Some of the time was also taken (going through the indexing log) in using the program while it was indexing. After I gave up at a crash and left machine on over night it seemed to runn through the indexing quicker. If your processor is running hard all the time I would suggest an extra fan that will help pull the heat away from your computer? Even with dual core both where running between 80-100% continuously.
Jason
PS remember the patience thing I mentioned at the beginning helps too!
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