Anyone else interested in see LOGOS match the counterpoint books on sale right now for $3.99? Making the whole 17 book collection $68. I'd buy it in a minute...But I can't justify spending that on an amazon or Christianbook ebook...
http://r.harpercollinschristian.com/promo/counterpoints-ebook/
Sounds great. Keep us posted, and if Logos matches I will quickly return my Kindle versions!
I did an online chat with them and they said there aren't any sales. But maybe if enough of ask for it
It is a bit like asking a Cadillac dealer to match prices with a Chevy dealer.
Not sure why everyone all of a sudden thinks Lgoos does price matching on full Logos books. If these were in Vyrso ask away,but they are not so I would'nt expect Logos to price match if they were allowed.
Anyone else interested in see LOGOS match the counterpoint books on sale right now for $3.99? Making the whole 17 book collection $68. I'd buy it in a minute...But I can't justify spending that on an amazon or Christianbook ebook... http://r.harpercollinschristian.com/promo/counterpoints-ebook/
Glad this was asked for again. I originally asked here.
This is a little bit different. First, Vyrso is comparable (e.g. Chevy to Ford) and they won't do the sale on the 5 Counterpoint books there.
Also, to extend the car analogy, if car were built on the same frame (the Chevy and the Cadillac), and you found out that the frame was suddenly 67% off, I don't think it would be wrong to ask the Cadillac dealer for a sale. It won't be as deep a discount as Chevy could offer, but there's no reason Cadillac couldn't offer some type of discount.
The "cost" of paying the publisher for these books is significantly lower now. I'd like the Logos price to reflect that reality knowing that they still have a premium layer of cost added on top.
I picked up the series titles from Logos for 50% off during a week long Twitter special back in May 2012.
That is still not near the price you were wanting, it but I knew it was a good deal.
Not sure why everyone all of a sudden thinks Lgoos does price matching on full Logos books. If these were in Vyrso ask away,but they are not so I would'nt expect Logos to price match if they were allowed. Anyone else interested in see LOGOS match the counterpoint books on sale right now for $3.99? Making the whole 17 book collection $68. I'd buy it in a minute...But I can't justify spending that on an amazon or Christianbook ebook... http://r.harpercollinschristian.com/promo/counterpoints-ebook/
The whole price-matching thing has been discussed before on various sub comments to other threads. I guess people are in denial or too persistent for their own troubles...Ok, here's the answer (again) for those of you who are asking for a price match: No, Logos does not price match! (Not even third party stuff that's libronix/logos built). So save yourself the trouble and stop asking for a price match; is something Logos just doesn't do and if a sales man ever did it once before, it was a huge mistake and I'm sure he was told on the side not to do it again. So quit begging! Is not going to happen [;)] [A]
So quit begging! Is not going to happen
Betcha it's going to happen someday...[mo]
I don't mind asking for logos to offer a discount for those of us who are loyal to logos. I figured the forum was a place where we could have people who would be interested in these books come together to request it. I don't think we need as many commenting against the idea of a discount on books.
Anyone else interested?
I don't mind asking for logos to offer a discount for those of us who are loyal to logos. I figured the forum was a place where we could have people who would be interested in these books come together to request it. I don't think we need as many commenting against the idea of a discount on books. Anyone else interested?
Oh so, so, so, now it's a discount, I thought your post was "Matching" (which is not gonna happen any time soon). Discounts, you don't need the forums for that, call sales or take advantage of existing sales, but in your OP you pretty much mentioned price "matching" and that's not available, it doesn't matter how many get together in the forums to request it. If I'm not mistaken, a logos employee said that unfortunately they cannot offer it - that's the reason I stopped asking for it a LONG time ago (it's been discussed so many times, so it's kind of hard to find the comments on 100 + pages of results when doing a search, that's why I didn't post the link to that response).
Anyway, keep your fingers crossed (it's a figure of speech Floyd if you're out there), but don't hold your breath on the "matching" part. [;)]
There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking for a matching price. Logos can then match the price, or not. It is their choice, and they will make the decision on the basis of what is best for their business. The customer can then buy from Logos, or from someone else. That also would be a business decision.
But it is never wrong to give a merchant the opportunity to make a sale by requesting matching a price.
To criticize someone for asking for a matching price is somewhat arrogant.
In the last few years, I have decided that for me it is sometimes better to buy some books in other formats. The difference in price for the Logos edition is not always worth it to me. It depends on the book. On most commentaries and reference books I will pay a good bit more for a Logos edition. On everything else, I will not. That is just a change in personal policy I made for business reasons. I have no criticism for those who feel otherwise.
I don't resent it if Logos chooses not to match a price. I just buy it somewhere else. But there are times that Logos does match prices, or come pretty close to matching. And it is good to give them the opportunity.
I have decided that for me it is sometimes better to buy some books in other formats. The difference in price for the Logos edition is not always worth it to me. It depends on the book.
I read the forums a lot and I find this exact sentiment often. This is a huge loss of opportunity for Logos and shows this is not a question of loyalty, but of pure common sense.
do you think it would be smart for LOGOS to have 2 versions of their books/collections: Full fledged Logos version (with all the scripture links, behind the surface tagging, etc) and a dumbed-down basic version, similar to Vyrso resources (with all the non-Scripture tags stripped off) at Vyrso or Kindle level price?
this way, they would keep more customers and make more sales, will be able to upgrade a customer from basic to full-fledged at a higher margin, than if one bought the full fledged version to start with, etc.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking for a matching price. Logos can then match the price, or not. It is their choice, and they will make the decision on the basis of what is best for their business. The customer can then buy from Logos, or from someone else. That also would be a business decision. But it is never wrong to give a merchant the opportunity to make a sale by requesting matching a price. To criticize someone for asking for a matching price is somewhat arrogant. In the last few years, I have decided that for me it is sometimes better to buy some books in other formats. The difference in price for the Logos edition is not always worth it to me. It depends on the book. On most commentaries and reference books I will pay a good bit more for a Logos edition. On everything else, I will not. That is just a change in personal policy I made for business reasons. I have no criticism for those who feel otherwise. I don't resent it if Logos chooses not to match a price. I just buy it somewhere else. But there are times that Logos does match prices, or come pretty close to matching. And it is good to give them the opportunity.
Well said Michael! In fact, it is a sign of loyalty to give a retailer an opportunity to match a price. I would much rather purchase ALL my book in Logos format, but I will not pay substantially more for a non-commentary or reference book that is purchase primarily to be read. It just does not make economic sense.
Well said Michael! In fact, it is a sign of loyalty to give a retailer an opportunity to match a price.
My only 2cents on this subject. I agree with you both, but I don't think the forums is the proper place. We know that Logos isn't going to match this offer, and they can't. All this thread does is notify others about the offer elsewhere... and is that really fair to Logos?
Again, and briefly: "Logos Editions" are a "value added" product. Kindle/Vyrso/Nook etc. are not. Logos and Vyrso resources are sold under different licensing schemes (meaning "rules" or "plan"), and Logos can't match. They CAN'T. Their system is built upon the sale and profit raised from the sale of these "value added" resources.
The only thing I don't know, is if Logos were able to scale during these sales (with publisher agreement... it may not even be an option). It would be nice if they could. It would be nice if they would (hint, hint). But again, it works against Logos for us to be continually saying "HEY EVERYBODY! AMAZON IS SELLING THE BOOK FOR $2.99!!!!!"
Well said Michael! In fact, it is a sign of loyalty to give a retailer an opportunity to match a price. My only 2cents on this subject. I agree with you both, but I don't think the forums is the proper place. We know that Logos isn't going to match this offer, and they can't. All this thread does is notify others about the offer elsewhere... and is that really fair to Logos?
I see your point, but considering the open nature of this forum I don't see how this could be stopped. I don't think anyone intents to direct sales away from Logos with such posts, but rather inform Logos of the price discrepancy. I know I personally will do just about anything to avoid speaking to a real live sales person, especially over the telephone. I call Logos or any other retailer as an absolute last resort. I am sure others feel the same way. So to suggest that we must call as sales representative is as good as saying to a person like me, "Don't inform Logos of the potential lost sale, don't give them an opportunity to match the price."
As to the statement that they can't match the price. That is not always true. I can think of a few recent examples when upon being informed of the price discrepancy Logos did match the price. Once the price was match I returned my Kindle book and purchased it from Vyrso.
But again, it works against Logos for us to be continually saying "HEY EVERYBODY! AMAZON IS SELLING THE BOOK FOR $2.99!!!!!"
you just said it... IN CAPS!
we are just stating the obvious. This is the nature of free market. Reminds me of a car I bought - two cars of the same model and year, with almost identical mileage, wear and same color were at two dealerships, situated exactly across each other. After several trips back and forth between these 2 dealerships, I finally got a $5000 discount!
Anyway, this whole argument about "value added" is getting mis-applied a lot. There is such a thing as too much "value added." I don't need a silver spoon for eating, an elegant, but regular stainless steel one would work just fine. Why do I think you are mis-representing the "value-added" argument for THESE resources? Because aside from links to scripture and Bibliography there are no other tags (in my understanding). These books are glorified Vyrso editions!!!
you are right, it is like asking a Cadillac dealer to match prices with a Chevy dealer FOR A CHEVY CAR! Have you looked at the resources in question? Some Vyrso books have more tagging than these!
I think we are going about this wrong. I think we should stop [:'(] and start a thread "Hey, LOGOS, this is a resource I would buy if it was on sale."Maybe put it on your wish list. maybe write a review [;)]
LOGOS loves doing sales.
start a thread "Hey, LOGOS, this is a resource I would buy if it was on sale."Maybe put it on your wish list. maybe write a review LOGOS loves doing sales.
start a thread "Hey, LOGOS, this is a resource I would buy if it was on sale."Maybe put it on your wish list. maybe write a review
[Y] Good idea.
When Vyrso "price matches" a deal, it is usually a publisher extended offer. As I said before, the licensing agreements are different between Vyrso and Logos editions of resources. As far as Vyrso pricing goes, I have said umpteen times: Vyrso is very competitive on pricing. In most cases the prices are either identical or within a few cents. When there is a price discrepancy, it is often a loss leader for Amazon... but sometimes Vyrso does beat the price by more than a few cents ($1+).
Anyway, there's no point arguing any of this stuff, so my apologies to those who read my last response which I've deleted. Apologies to you Michael too, since I had included a challenge that I pretty much knew I'd win [:P] [;)] I would not want this to be a back and forth battle of what can one person do and what he can't. Everybody can pretty much choose what they want to do. Have a great Lord's Day tomorrow!
Blessings!
DAL
went ahead and bought all 17 resources on Kindle
Good for you! I would have liked to buy about half a dozen or so (since I like the format and already own the rest...), but of course amazon.de doesn't carry this US promotion, B&N don't sell to Germany at all and christianbooks not only tells me these ebooks are for sale in the US only, they even take them out of my shopping cart directly at checkout if I try to buy nevertheless. I really like regional book licences [:@]
Maybe it shouldn't be.
Bummer! Sorry about it. I have a fiscal presence in the US (several Credit cards, bank accounts and an office) but reside in Russia, and so fas was able to get pretty much everything.
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