Can I make a reading list to read one chapter a day of the Psalms?
Sadly no. This feature was available in Libronix 3 (only after strong and constant lobbying by the user community on the Logos Newsgroups) but for some unknown reason Logos failed to include in Logos 4 and Logos 5.
The good folk at Logos really don't seem to get users needs when it comes to reading plans. They are stuck on the concept that all we want to read is pericopes. Logos please start listening to your users once again on this issue and give us back the ability to divide bible readings by chapter. There are instances and bible reading plans where this works better than the pericope. To continue to snub this user request because you see it as not required and not going to hurt your sales is a very disappointing attitude on this topic. And please don't feed us the line about usage statistics show..... What the forum enquires on this topic show is there are users who want this feature.
There is a current UserVoice request for "More control over Reading Plans" which has 311 votes already. I suggest that anyone desiring the ability to control a Reading List to read through the Psalms or any other biblical book by chapter go vote for this feature request. The more people vote for it, the more visibility it will get by Logos's deciders. The stark reality is that they are driven by financial considerations in deciding what features to expend their development resources on. So the number of users who want a feature speaks loudly to them:
http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-5/suggestions/617849-more-control-over-reading-plans
Is UserVoice even used anymore? I look at the top page of requests and there seems to be very minimal response from Logos on implementing those features most requested. What would be the purpose of voting?
Yes it is used. There are historical reasons why the top voted "Rework notes function" feature has not been responded to by Logos as "STARTED" or "PLANNED." That feature request is a catch-all one that was created way back to collect together a bunch of other smaller notes-related feature requests in order to provide one place for people to expend all their votes and thus push it up to the top of the list to get more attention. Well, that worked, but the problem is the resulting "feature request" was a mishmash of all kinds of smaller featurelets, and it was hard for Logos to prioritize within those. They have added several of those things, and they have resisted other changes. If you do a search for notes you will find several feature requests that have been marked COMPLETED:
And so on. Many more.
Check the "Status" dropdown to see how many feature requests they've completed, started, or planned, and select any one of these categories to see all the features with that status.
Some of the most recent Completed ones have been in Logos 5.1 and 5.1a, so they are still actively picking features off UserVoice to work on. Keep using it!
This feature is not spelt out as part of that particular idea. As with most ideas it is to broad a request. But to put out more granular ideas would require more than the 10 votes we are allowed for this to be a truly useful tool.
Personally I'm not convinced about how much notice they take of uservoice. The fact is that users made there desire for such a feature known during Libronix 3 days, they gave us the feature and have taken it away. Actions like that only fuel my lack of trust in Uservoice. Users should not have to go through making a case for this feature a second time, particularly when this is a standard option in other bible software programs and a standard feature of most bible reading programs.
i don't see how having a bible reading plan with a 'feature' that says you should read half of psalm x one day and then the other half of psalm x plus half of psalm y the next day something Logos would be proud about and what they want the software to present to it's users - but it is exactly what it does currently. This should not be a decision about finance it is something the software should do without question. It is not something users should have to ask on the forums does the software give you this option? It simply should be there and allow users to go about incorporating bible reading plans as part of there daily routines as they see fit.
Everyday Logos continue to ignore the need for this option is another day they tell their customers "we know better than you, you think you need that option but really you don't need it.". What an appalling response from a bible software company on such a basic and standard concept in the daily reading of the scriptures.
There is a current UserVoice request for "More control over Reading Plans" which has 311 votes already. I suggest that anyone desiring the ability to control a Reading List to read through the Psalms or any other biblical book by chapter go vote for this feature request. The more people vote for it, the more visibility it will get by Logos's deciders. The stark reality is that they are driven by financial considerations in deciding what features to expend their development resources on. So the number of users who want a feature speaks loudly to them: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-5/suggestions/617849-more-control-over-reading-plans
The fact is that users made there desire for such a feature known during Libronix 3 days, they gave us the feature and have taken it away. Actions like that only fuel my lack of trust in Uservoice...I don't see how having a bible reading plan with a 'feature' that says you should read half of psalm x one day and then the other half of psalm x plus half of psalm y the next day something Logos would be proud about
I would have to agree. I did use a Reading Plan in Logos 4 to read through the Bible in a year, but sue to the limitations is setting up reading plans I had to have more than one plan. If the program can't handle reading by chapter, then I'll just have to find another way to track my reading. It's too bad because the calendar and reminders are a nice feature.
I have stopped using Reading Plans because Logos dropped this option. People don't start or stop reading in the middle of a paragraph. That's what Logos often requires. I wish I had the fuller control I used to have.
Please fix it Logos! (Please.) We shouldn't need more UserVoice votes to restore a basic option that makes a program feature workable.
People don't start or stop reading in the middle of a paragraph.
Oh, I don't know about that. Sometimes I stop reading or writing words in the middle of a lette
Please fix it Logos! (Please.)
+1 [Y] for reading plan option to align by chapter.
Thankful for personal book lectionary and calendar devotion options.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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I have stopped using Reading Plans because Logos dropped this option. People don't start or stop reading in the middle of a paragraph. That's what Logos often requires. I wish I had the fuller control I used to have. Please fix it Logos! (Please.) We shouldn't need more UserVoice votes to restore a basic option that makes a program feature workable.
Agreed
Is UserVoice even used anymore? I look at the top page of requests and there seems to be very minimal response from Logos on implementing those features most requested. What would be the purpose of voting? Yes it is used.
Yes it is used.
Rosie, I think you missed the point. Your reply shows Logos does improvements to Logos, which I don't disagree with - the regular updates of Logos 5 are a testament to that,
My point was that Uservoice is not influencing WHAT Logos works on. If you look at the first page, this is the distribution. Keep in mind, these are the 20 TOP vote getters by users:
No plans/no mention of a next step - 13
Being planned for 2 years - 1
Under review for 2 years - 1
Under review for 3 years - 1
Started a year ago - 3
Started 2 years ago - 1
I can't see how anyone would say this is being responsive to the things users deem most important, the things being implemented in Logos are NOT the strongest desires of users according to Uservoice. So it must be being discounted heavily within the planning confines of Logos. So my question remains why use Uservoice anymore, as it has no relation to what gets implemented.
Your assessment is spot on Don. UseVoice is simply an exercise in customer engagement. If Logos were to be seriously listening we would not be having this thread. We would have bible reading plans with the option to divide by chapter. Chapter divisions may be an arbitrary invention of man, they may at time break at points we might disagree with, but they are how our bibles are organized, they are the standard boundary for reading plans and they are wanted by users to be an option in Logos Bible Software. They are not a power user feature, but a basic feature one would expect to find in any bible software program.
