BUG: 5.2a RC2: Two things broken with the new tag editor

Rosie Perera

The new tag editor has broken two things that impact me:

The ability to type a colon (:) in a tag name. I use that all the time for my tagging system (e.g., "Bought: 20140328" and "Bundle: Essential IVP Reference"). Can't do it anymore. As soon as you type the colon, the tag is entered (without the colon). That is what should happen if you type a semi-colon (and it does work that way), but not a colon. A colon should be allowed to be part of the tag. [Fortunately I've figured out a workaround for this. I can type the tag as I want it into some other software and then copy/paste that text into the Logos tag editor. But what a pain!]
The ability to copy/paste a tag or set of tags from one book to another. You used to be able to select the text, copy it, and paste it. Can't select even a single tag to copy/paste anymore. I would use this often to tag new books that I bought which were updates to existing series. They'd share many of the same tags I applied to all the other books in that series. For example, I tag all the JSOTS books with "JSOTSup" and "OTStudies" and "ScholMon" (for scholarly monograph) and "Pre-pub" if I bought them in pre-pub, which I did for all the ones I own. Now I'll have to manually apply those same tags one by one. No workaround. [:(]

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LimJK

Rosie,

Yes, I missed the original way of

copying from an existing tag and
pasting to one or a selected group of resource(s) as a new tag

this is a common scenario when we add resources to existing collections.

Andy

Hi Rosie,

I am not suggesting this is of any value whatsoever (by way of a workaround), but thought I would mention it just in case you hadn't yet noticed.

When selecting multiple items via the library pane and then bulking editing the tags, the behaviour is as per the previous releases (i.e. one is able to utilise the humble colon, among other things).

I appreciate this may be of no use whatsoever, but thought I would mention it. It also emphasises the inconsistency and imperfection of the most recent changes to the tag editor.

(I am working on a Mac, 5.2a RC2, btw).

Blessings

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/580418#Comment_580418

I am not suggesting this is of any value whatsoever (by way of a workaround), but thought I would mention it just in case you hadn't yet noticed.

Thank you. I hadn't noticed. And yes, it seems to be yet another bug in the new implementation, however I'm glad to find a workaround to get back to my familiar old tag editor. I can keep around a dummy blank personal book and always select it plus whatever other single resource I'm trying to edit the tags of (however filtering my library so that they show up close to each other in a relatively small list of resources will be another challenge; hardly a workable workaround).

fgh

The ability to copy/paste a tag or set of tags from one book to another.

You could copy multiple tags at once on PC? Don't think that's ever been possible on Mac.

Can't select even a single tag to copy/paste anymore.

Yes, you can (or at least I can). Right-click and select Rename Tag On All Resources to get into edit mode. Then you can copy. But be careful so you don't do something unintended to the existing tag at the same time.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/581029#Comment_581029

The ability to copy/paste a tag or set of tags from one book to another.

You could copy multiple tags at once on PC? Don't think that's ever been possible on Mac.

Oh, I think I was misremembering this. Now that I think of it, whenever I needed to do this, I would use screen OCR software to do it, but it often wasn't perfect (semicolons would be misread as colons, etc.).

Angela Murashov

The new tag editor has broken two things that impact me:

I will create cases for Development to investigate both of these issues.

Dylan Rondeau

The ability to type a colon (:) in a tag name

You can once again use colons in tags, fixed in 5.2a SR 1. [:)]

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/583893#Comment_583893

You can once again use colons in tags, fixed in 5.2a SR 1.

Thanks, Dylan. I'm in the middle of catching up on some tagging, so this couldn't have come a moment too soon.

Angela Murashov

The ability to copy/paste a tag or set of tags from one book to another. You used to be able to select the text, copy it, and paste it. Can't select even a single tag to copy/paste anymore. I would use this often to tag new books that I bought which were updates to existing series. They'd share many of the same tags I applied to all the other books in that series. For example, I tag all the JSOTS books with "JSOTSup" and "OTStudies" and "ScholMon" (for scholarly monograph) and "Pre-pub" if I bought them in pre-pub, which I did for all the ones I own. Now I'll have to manually apply those same tags one by one. No workaround.

With the new "Rename Tag" option you can now copy/paste a tag from one book to another. [:)]
Right-click a tag, choose Rename tag, copy, then hit Esc to cancel the single tag rename. That text can then be pasted into another resource add tag field.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/584220#Comment_584220

With the new "Rename Tag" option you can now copy/paste a tag from one book to another.

Thank you, Angela and Logos developers!

Now the only thing remaining to make me a fully happy camper with the new tag editor is to be able to select several resources that all have a particular tag and remove just that tag from those resources without affecting the other tags that those resources have (which might be different among the various resources). This is for the all-too-common case when I'm tagging and accidentally assign the wrong tag to a bunch of resources and don't notice that I've done that until after I've committed the change. Or if I'm tidying up my tagging scheme in general and notice some misassigned resources. As it stands now, you've got to delete that tag one at a time from the resources you want to remove it from.

Dylan Rondeau

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/584272#Comment_584272

Now the only thing remaining to make me a fully happy camper with the new tag editor is to be able to select several resources that all have a particular tag and remove just that tag from those resources without affecting the other tags that those resources have

There is an active case to update multi-resource tagging in a future release, but no ETA at the moment. [:)]

Andy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/584272#Comment_584272

Now the only thing remaining to make me a fully happy camper with the new tag editor is to be able to select several resources that all have a particular tag and remove just that tag from those resources without affecting the other tags that those resources have (which might be different among the various resources). This is for the all-too-common case when I'm tagging and accidentally assign the wrong tag to a bunch of resources and don't notice that I've done that until after I've committed the change. Or if I'm tidying up my tagging scheme in general and notice some misassigned resources. As it stands now, you've got to delete that tag one at a time from the resources you want to remove it from.

Hi Rosie,

I am not sure, again, how helpful this may prove, but I think I may have come up with a semi-workaround.

Where a resource has multiple tags, a 'batch delete' can be achieved by simply renaming the tag to correspond with an existing tag.

For example, I have tagged a series of commentaries as 'preaching the word commentary', but in addition (and in error) tagged 70% of this same series 'preaching the word commentaries'. Around 70% of the series, therefore, had the extraneous additional tag 'preaching the word commentaries'. I was able to rectify this by 'renaming all tags' (labelled 'commentaries') with 'preaching the word commentary' which had the effect of selectively deleting one tag from a cross a range of resources while leaving all the other tags intact.

I appreciate this has huge limitations (you need to have a 'shared tag' that you can piggy-back the rename onto), but thought that it might prove useful as I understand that you are a prolific 'tagger' (and are, therefore, more likely to have shared tags).

Blessings

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/584471#Comment_584471

I am not sure, again, how helpful this may prove, but I think I may have come up with a semi-workaround.

Where a resource has multiple tags, a 'batch delete' can be achieved by simply renaming the tag to correspond with an existing tag.

Nice idea. It probably would only work some of the time for me, as my tagging is not only prolific but also complex. Also, my initial fear would be that it would also have to be a tag that I wasn't using on any other resources besides the ones selected, because it would rename it. But as I understand it, that isn't how tag editor works now (even though to me it would be the most intuitive).

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/584278#Comment_584278

Now the only thing remaining to make me a fully happy camper with the new tag editor is to be able to select several resources that all have a particular tag and remove just that tag from those resources without affecting the other tags that those resources have

There is an active case to update multi-resource tagging in a future release, but no ETA at the moment.

I was shocked delete tag in all resources wasn't included in this release. Seems like very similar functionality to rename tag in all resources.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/584278#Comment_584278

There is an active case to update multi-resource tagging in a future release, but no ETA at the moment.

Dylan, while the ability to remove a tag from some resources but not all requires a rewrite of the whole multi-resource tagging panel, the ability to remove a tag from all resources could be done much easier: just add a Delete Tag From All Resources command to the existing right-click menu. It seems rather odd that we can rename a tag, but not delete it.

Dylan Rondeau

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/584562#Comment_584562

There is an active case to update multi-resource tagging in a future release, but no ETA at the moment.

Dylan, while the ability to remove a tag from some resources but not all requires a rewrite of the whole multi-resource tagging panel, the ability to remove a tag from all resources could be done much easier: just add a Delete Tag From All Resources command to the existing right-click menu. It seems rather odd that we can rename a tag, but not delete it.

Angela already made a case suggesting this when Todd brought it up previously: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/82187.aspx [:)]

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/584563#Comment_584563

Angela already made a case suggesting this when Todd brought it up previously: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/82187.aspx

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