Tender little feelings hurt?

Poor baby ! Crying I just received a notice that Bram Stoker's Dracula was being removed and credit given.

I can hardly believe that enough complained in order to get Logos to remove an offering ! As someone in a thread on this commented, "If you don't like it, don't buy it." The fact of the matter is that Dracula is a classic tale just as Shakespeare's plays. A well-read person should be acquainted with it. Being totally provincial regarding the matter doesn't make anyone more righteous than another. Shame on you ! Angry

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Simon’s Brother

Seriously? i thought it fit the Noet branding very well. It's not like they tried to incorporate it into the Lexham English Bible.

Poor baby ! I just received a notice that Bram Stoker's Dracula was being removed and credit given.

I can hardly believe that enough complained in order to get Logos to remove an offering ! As someone in a thread on this commented, "If you don't like it, don't buy it." The fact of the matter is that Dracula is a classic tale just as Shakespeare's plays. A well-read person should be acquainted with it. Being totally provincial regarding the matter doesn't make anyone more righteous than another. Shame on you !

James C.

That really is too bad. I was going for it.

MJ. Smith

Disappointing.

Bruce Dunning

I can hardly believe that enough complained in order to get Logos to remove an offering !

I didn't think this would happen but I guess it has.

SineNomine

I can hardly believe that enough complained in order to get Logos to remove an offering !

I can. I don't think that they were right to do it, but I can believe that they did.

Bob Pritchett

This was my decision; Dracula as a stand-alone title doesn't really fit at Logos.com. It would make more sense as part of a larger literature collection, and at Noet.com, where I expect you'll see it in the future, but at this point it wasn't worth the number of users who were offended/upset.

Please don't provoke a fight with any individual users -- there's no benefit. People have strong feelings about what Bible software should and shouldn't contain, and while we are usually offending someone (every day, it seems!), we also are willing to pull back when the feedback comes from multiple people and there isn't a strong reason to press ahead. Logos will be fine without Dracula for now. :-)

-- Bob

DMB

My guess, tender little pocket book. Dracula? Something from grade school?

Although I'll admit having Dracula in my Logos Bible Software library would seem a bit odd. I could simply not buy it, but the tempation would simply be just too much. I probably need to take the hint, and get rid of my other demonic volumes. I don't think Asherah is demonic. She's a 'symbol'. She'll be ok.

Robert M. Warren

I don't think Asherah is demonic. She's a 'symbol'. She'll be ok.

Just don't ask her into your heart.

DAL

This was my decision; Dracula as a stand-alone title doesn't really fit at Logos.com. It would make more sense as part of a larger literature collection, and at Noet.com, where I expect you'll see it in the future, but at this point it wasn't worth the number of users who were offended/upset.

Please don't provoke a fight with any individual users -- there's no benefit. People have strong feelings about what Bible software should and shouldn't contain, and while we are usually offending someone (every day, it seems!), we also are willing to pull back when the feedback comes from multiple people and there isn't a strong reason to press ahead. Logos will be fine without Dracula for now. :-)

-- Bob

Thanks Mr. Bob for being mature about it and considering the weaker brethren. I'm still hoping to see that title in MY Logos library someday, but if today is not the time, then so be it for the sake of those who are not mature enough to just see Dracula as it is: A fine piece of literature that some of us can enjoy reading.

Blessings!

DAL

Randy W. Sims

[:(] Hoping Noet.com gets it's own store real soon!!!

Mike Pettit

This was my decision; Dracula as a stand-alone title doesn't really fit at Logos.com. It would make more sense as part of a larger literature collection, and at Noet.com, where I expect you'll see it in the future, but at this point it wasn't worth the number of users who were offended/upset.

Please don't provoke a fight with any individual users -- there's no benefit. People have strong feelings about what Bible software should and shouldn't contain, and while we are usually offending someone (every day, it seems!), we also are willing to pull back when the feedback comes from multiple people and there isn't a strong reason to press ahead. Logos will be fine without Dracula for now. :-)

-- Bob

Thanks Mr. Bob for being mature about it and considering the weaker brethren. I'm still hoping to see that title in MY Logos library someday, but if today is not the time, then so be it for the sake of those who are not mature enough to just see Dracula as it is: A fine piece of literature that some of us can enjoy reading.

Blessings!

DAL

I am not sure that you understand how not to provoke a fight, how kind of you to condescend to those you consider weak and immature. It is even kinder to point out our failings. I am sorry that you apparently find it so hard to locate a copy elsewhere.

Simon’s Brother

There was supposed to be a Noet desktop application launched around this time of the year, maybe May, so I would not be surprised to see both launched together if the desktop application is on track.

Hoping Noet.com gets it's own store real soon!!!

MJ. Smith

I think the frustration is that Bob says he wants to publish everything related to Bible study Take as an example: Religion and Its Monsters by Beal, Timothy K. which is a very legitimate theological book. But now he removes a major reference for the book? Does one believe words or action?

Actually, I think Bob is sincere in what he says but not yet ready for the full consequences. As the makeup of the consumer base changes, I expect the handling of this sort of thing to change - how? I'm not yet ready to guess.

Robert M. Warren

Lighten-up, spend your credit, be happy.

George Somsel

Lighten-up, spend your credit, be happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU

Matthew C Jones

It would make more sense as part of a larger literature collection, and at Noet.com, where I expect you'll see it in the future,

Please consider releasing a Classic Literature Bundle for Noet. (Slip Dracula in towards the back.) There are many books in my Logos library that lend themselves well to homeschooling. The Noet Classical Foundations Bundle is great for philosophy but why stop there? We need great works of literature that are not included in the Harvard Classics. I hope Dracula makes that cut.

Joseph Turner

You know, this actually has me thinking. What happens when Noet gets its own store, and they start offering more literature. What about great works of literature that may have cursing or other things that some may find objectionable. Will classic literature be left out because of the objectionable material, even though it is not under the Logos website?

SineNomine

You know, this actually has me thinking. What happens when Noet gets its own store, and they start offering more literature. What about great works of literature that may have cursing or other things that some may find objectionable. Will classic literature be left out because of the objectionable material, even though it is not under the Logos website?

I suspect that the answer to this question will be in the negative, at least as far as cursing and suchlike go.

Paul Golder

What happens when Noet gets its own store, and they start offering more literature.

One wonders,

The Catcher in the Rye
A Clockwork Orange
The Cider House Rules
Etc...

Matthew C Jones

What about great works of literature that may have cursing or other things that some may find objectionable. Will classic literature be left out because of the objectionable material, even though it is not under the Logos website?

What of Plato's Republic? I find his use of women and young boys objectionable yet I would never expect Noet to censor his works. And what of racially offensive terms such as what is found in Huck Finn? (or was it Tom Sawyer?) Should Noet edit Twain?

If Logos users wish to censor reading material they may want to start with Shakespeare or Perseus.

Robert M. Warren

Lighten-up, spend your credit, be happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU

Ha! It's what I thought it was!

"Dracula called, he's off the slate,

He may have to litigate,

Don't worry, be happy"