Basic question: Can someone explain to me how the cited by feature works? Thanks.
Michael
The cited by tool is a tool that I wished I had played with much earlier. What it does is whenever you are reading a book tagged with a datatype other than page number, it automatically does a search of your library for any references to that passage. It is automatically populated by any collections you have set up, to make it a bit more manageable if there are lots of references. Sometimes, eg. if you are turned to Jn 3.16, the number of hits is too much for the tool to really display. But other times it lets you see when favorite authors discuss a passage.
And this is not just for Bibles - it works for other authors too. Eg. logosref:Augustine.Conf._1.1 - the famous opening of the Confessions... I see it is discussed in Strong's Systematic Theology in the section on proofs of God's existence. I would have never have even thought about looking there, but the cited by tool shows me right away. And so it lets you find discussions on what you are reading that you don't even know you have...
SDG
Ken McGuire
The cited by tool is a tool that I wished I had played with much earlier. What it does is whenever you are reading a book tagged with a datatype other than page number, it automatically does a search of your library for any references to that passage. It is automatically populated by any collections you have set up, to make it a bit more manageable if there are lots of references. Sometimes, eg. if you are turned to Jn 3.16, the number of hits is too much for the tool to really display. But other times it lets you see when favorite authors discuss a passage. And this is not just for Bibles - it works for other authors too. Eg. logosref:Augustine.Conf._1.1 - the famous opening of the Confessions... I see it is discussed in Strong's Systematic Theology in the section on proofs of God's existence. I would have never have even thought about looking there, but the cited by tool shows me right away. And so it lets you find discussions on what you are reading that you don't even know you have... SDG Ken McGuire
Hey Ken, can you give me a example and screen shot? Thanks.
Hey Ken, can you give me a example and screen shot?
Sure - First of all Confessions 1.1...
I have a collection of "Theology resources". As you can see, it finds 6 total references to that passage. You can see a bit of context for the first 3, and the start of the 4th. For more, you would scroll down, and maybe hit the "more" button - which opens up a search for the passage...
Next example is a cryptic verse - Gen 6.2.
Here I am showing where Luther's Works mentions this, or rather 4 of 9 times it is mentioned in Luther's works... A quick glance suggests that Luther spoke of our life under the law and as it somehow about the true vs. false church - a bit more allegorical than my taste...
If I am interested in any of the excerpts shown, all I have to do is click on them and they are opened up automagically for me to read in context...
Adding to Ken's great illustrations, also remember CitedBy panels can be many, in a layout (you don't have to stack a series of lookups in a single panel).
In the two examples below, the first is an OT window with a CitedBy looking up the Massorah, and the second in an NT window, looking up greek usage in the NT apocrypha (both cited by panels displayed in the bottom row center).
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Thanks, Ken and Denice, for the great illustrations. Question: Which works can be used with the "Citied By" tool and do you just simply put in the reference box a verse or confession number or what other serch "string" can you use; and is it in the tools menu (I am not in front of my cimputer)? Thanks!
Which works can be used with the "Citied By" tool
Just about any, but you might not want some of them. The tool recognizes Scripture—or other—references within the resources. I have created collections that are than included in Cited by…
do you just simply put in the reference box a verse or confession number or what other serch "string" can you use;
You could do that, or you could use the linking function (my normal procedure, but not pictured in this screenshot). Murray shows 5 hits because it was open prior to this screenshot.
BTW: Setting this up can be a pain because of the very small window and Logos' irritating habit of automatically including every new collection. Also leave the individual lines closed except when you want to use one as several open lines will slow everything to a crawl.
is it in the tools menu
Yes
Which works can be used with the "Citied By" tool Just about any, but you might not want some of them. The tool recognizes Scripture—or other—references within the resources. I have created collections that are than included in Cited by… do you just simply put in the reference box a verse or confession number or what other serch "string" can you use;
Thanks, Jack...good to hear from you. I would suppose creating collections would be better as far as speed? How would you include a coolection in the Cited by? I do not see a place to choose a collection. How does that work? Thanks!
How would you include a coolection in the Cited by? I do not see a place to choose a collection.
Click on the orange and white icon at the top left of the "Cited By" panel
(EDIT: Looking at your screenshot it looks as though your icon might be a different colour! It's the one at the top-left of the panel)
You can select Collections from there
Thanks Graham, most helpful as always
There's a [Catholic] video at http://scripturestudysoftware.com/2012/05/25/468/, that deals quite a bit with the Cited By tool.
